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Can you draw unemployment while on Social Security in California EDD?

So I've been collecting Social Security retirement benefits for about two years now and I recently got laid off from my part-time bookkeeping job at a small accounting firm. I had been working there 22 hours a week to supplement my SS income since retirement savings alone weren't cutting it. My former coworker told me I absolutely cannot collect unemployment if I'm already getting Social Security, but my neighbor said she did both at the same time no problem. Now I'm totally confused and honestly a little stressed because I was counting on that income to cover my car payment and utilities. From what I've dug up online, California EDD doesn't automatically disqualify you just because you receive Social Security retirement benefits. But I'm not finding a clear straight answer anywhere. The California EDD website has a lot of information but nothing that directly spells out what happens when you're getting both. I've been out of work for 11 days now and haven't filed yet because I'm scared I'll get flagged for something or end up owing money back. Has anyone actually been in this situation and successfully collected UI while on Social Security? Do I need to declare the SS income somewhere on my weekly certifications? Will it reduce my weekly benefit amount? Any help would be appreciated because I really need to figure this out before another week goes by without filing.

Yes, you can absolutely collect California EDD unemployment benefits while receiving Social Security retirement benefits. These are two completely separate programs and one does not disqualify you from the other. Social Security retirement income does NOT count as wages and does NOT reduce your weekly unemployment benefit amount in California. Your coworker was wrong on this one. What matters for California EDD eligibility is that you were working, you were laid off through no fault of your own, and you earned enough wages during your base period to establish a valid claim. The fact that you also receive Social Security on the side is essentially irrelevant to EDD's determination. File your claim right away - you're already losing potential benefit weeks by waiting.

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This is such a relief to hear. So when I fill out my weekly certifications I don't need to report the Social Security payments as income or anything like that?

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Correct. Social Security retirement benefits are not considered earnings from employment, so you don't report them as wages on your weekly certification. You only report actual work earnings if you do any part-time work during a claim week. Just answer the questions honestly on your certification and you'll be fine.

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wait really?? i always assumed SS and unemployment couldn't be collected together. that's actually good to know

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Former HR coordinator here. Can confirm what the person above said. California eliminated the Social Security offset back in 1980s. A lot of states used to reduce UI benefits dollar for dollar based on SS income but California did away with that completely. You're in a good state to be making this claim in. The key things EDD will look at for your eligibility: your base period wages from that bookkeeping job, that you were laid off involuntarily, and that you're able and available to work. None of those are affected by SS status.

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That's really helpful context about the offset rules. So California used to reduce benefits but stopped? Makes me feel better knowing the rules are actually on my side here.

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i didnt know that about the offset thing. my mom is in this exact situation and i've been telling her she cant file. gonna tell her to go ahead now

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Yes please tell her to file ASAP. Benefits are not retroactive in most cases so every week she waits is potentially a lost week of income.

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same, my uncle thought he couldnt collect either bc of his SS. this thread is really informative

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I was in basically the exact same boat last year - 67 years old, drawing SS since 65, got let go from a logistics company where I'd been doing data entry three days a week. I was terrified to file thinking it would mess up my Social Security somehow. Honestly the thing that helped me most was actually getting someone at California EDD on the phone to walk me through it before I filed. I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a live EDD agent without the nightmare of calling and getting busy signals for hours. There's a video that explains how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - basically they hold your place in the queue so you don't have to sit on hold forever. The agent I spoke with confirmed everything: SS income doesn't affect UI eligibility or benefit amounts in California, file normally, don't report SS on certifications. Went ahead and filed that same day.

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Oh wow this is really helpful. Did talking to the agent give you peace of mind before filing? I'm still a little nervous about doing something wrong.

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Completely. She was actually really patient and answered like four of my questions. And claimyr.com made it so I didn't spend my whole morning redialing. Honestly worth it just for the reassurance factor alone.

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I've heard of Claimyr but never tried it. Did it take long to get connected?

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Not long at all compared to trying on my own. I'd spent two days calling before that getting hung up on or just hitting busy signals. Claimyr got me through within the same morning.

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okk but what about SSDI though?? is that different from regular Social Security retirement? asking for myself because im on disability not retirement

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Great question and yes there is a distinction worth noting. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) can get more complicated because to receive SSDI you've been determined to have a disability that prevents substantial gainful activity. California EDD unemployment requires you to certify that you're able and available to work. There can be a logical conflict there that EDD might flag, though many people do collect both. If you're on SSDI it's worth speaking with someone before filing, either an EDD rep or a benefits counselor.

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ugh okay so its not as simple for me. i work part time within my allowed hours under ssdi rules so i figured i could collect UI too if i got laid off

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The SSDI situation is genuinely complicated and varies case by case. Please don't take random forum advice on that one - call EDD or talk to a Social Security advocate before filing.

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Don't wait any longer to file seriously!! Benefits aren't paid retroactively from when you were laid off - they're paid from when you file. Every day you delay is money out of your pocket. File TODAY.

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You're right I need to stop overthinking this and just file. Going to do it tonight.

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Good!! Come back and let us know how it goes 👍

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I went through something similar a few months ago, 64 years old, part time retail work plus SS retirement. Filed for UI after the store closed down our location. The whole process was smoother than I expected honestly. Only issue I ran into was the identity verification through ID.me which was kind of a pain but that's not related to SS at all, that's just EDD's standard verification process now. One tip: when you file your initial claim, there will be a section about other income. Social Security retirement is NOT employment income so don't enter it there. Some people get confused and think they need to disclose it but it's not that kind of income for EDD purposes.

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The ID.me thing is what I've been hearing about - is that mandatory for everyone now?

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Yes it's required for all new claims now. You verify your identity through ID.me before your claim can be processed. Have your ID or passport ready, it's mostly straightforward.

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The ID.me process gave me so much trouble omg. Took me three tries to get verified. Just be patient with it

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Yeah some people have issues especially if the lighting on your selfie isn't great or if your ID has glare. Just keep trying or use the video call option with a real agent if the automated process keeps failing.

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CALIFORNIA EDD IS SO CONFUSING WHY CANT THEY JUST HAVE A SIMPLE CHART SOMEWHERE THAT SHOWS WHAT INCOME COUNTS AND WHAT DOESN'T. I had to learn the hard way that pension income CAN reduce your benefits but SS retirement does NOT. Made completely different choices about retirement timing because I didn't understand this. The system is designed to make people give up.

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You actually raise a valid point about pension income - that one IS different. Pension income from a base period employer CAN offset UI benefits in California. So if the OP had a pension from that accounting firm they'd need to check on that. But SS retirement is separate and doesn't offset.

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No pension from this job, it was a small firm with no retirement plan. So I should be in the clear on that.

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Lucky. I had a pension from my previous employer and it reduced my weekly benefit amount. Wish someone had told me before I filed.

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just wanted to add that my grandmother collected both ss retirement and unemployment in california for about 6 months a couple years back. no issues whatsoever. she even said the edd rep she spoke with on the phone was helpful about explaining it. so it definitely works

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Real world examples like this are reassuring. Thank you for sharing.

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of course! good luck with your claim 😊

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How long does the first payment usually take after you file? And do they do a waiting week still in California?

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California does have a one-week unpaid waiting period - your first week of eligibility is not paid. After that, once your claim is approved, payments typically come within 2-3 weeks of certification. If your claim goes into adjudication for any reason it can take longer, sometimes 4-6 weeks. Adjudication just means they're reviewing something about your claim, not necessarily that you did anything wrong.

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Oh I didn't know about the waiting week. So whatever week I file for first I just don't get paid for it?

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Exactly. The first week you're eligible is the waiting period week - you still certify for it but you won't receive payment for that specific week. All subsequent weeks you certify and are eligible for, you get paid.

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this was confusing to me too when i first filed. the waiting week catches everyone off guard

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're meeting the job search requirements while collecting. California EDD requires you to make three job search contacts per week and log them. I know at 60+ some people assume they're exempt but you're not unless you're on approved standby status. The job search requirement applies to everyone unless specifically exempted.

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Oh this is something I hadn't thought about. Do I need to register with CalJOBS too?

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Yes, you're required to register with CalJOBS as part of the UI process. You'll get information about this after filing. It sounds like a lot but it's pretty simple - you create an account and upload your resume basically.

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Correct on the job search requirements. Three contacts per week, documented. EDD can ask for your job search log at any time so keep good records. Emails you send, applications you submit, phone calls to employers - all count.

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Good to know. I'll set up a spreadsheet to track everything as I go.

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Has anyone had California EDD actually question the SS plus UI situation during a phone interview? I'm wondering if it triggers an adjudication review automatically or anything like that.

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When I filed, I had no issues and no phone interview triggered. My claim processed normally. I think EDD's systems don't flag SS retirement income as a conflict because it's a known and accepted situation. SSDI might be a different story as someone mentioned above.

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SS retirement income wouldn't trigger adjudication because EDD's questionnaire doesn't even ask about it in a way that would create a conflict. The questions that trigger reviews are things like: did you quit, were you fired for misconduct, are you self employed, do you have a union. None of those apply to SS retirement.

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That makes sense. The adjudication triggers are about employment circumstances not benefit income. Thanks for explaining that.

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Off topic slightly but what about if you're collecting a spousal Social Security benefit rather than your own SS retirement? Would that change anything?

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No difference. Spousal Social Security benefits fall under the same category as SS retirement for EDD purposes - it's Social Security income, it doesn't count as wages or employment income, and it doesn't affect your UI benefit calculation or eligibility.

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Perfect, that's exactly what I needed to know. My wife is in this situation.

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i tried calling california edd for like a week straight to ask something similar and could NEVER get through. all busy signals or disconnected after waiting. how do people actually talk to someone there

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Honestly I was in the same boat for days before I found Claimyr at claimyr.com - they navigate the EDD phone queue for you so you're not just hitting redial over and over. Check out their video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 to see how it works. It's what finally got me to an actual live EDD agent when I needed to ask about my SS and UI situation.

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wait this is a real thing? gonna check it out because ive been going crazy trying to get through

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the edd phone system is genuinely one of the most frustrating things ive ever dealt with. getting actually connected to someone feels like winning a lottery

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Quick question - if you draw unemployment while on social security and then you find new part time work, do you report those earnings the same way regular UI claimants do?

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Yes, exactly the same. If you earn wages from part-time work while collecting UI, you report those earnings on your weekly certification. EDD uses a formula where they disregard 25% of your weekly benefit amount, then reduce your payment dollar for dollar for anything you earn above that threshold. Your SS income still doesn't factor into this calculation at all.

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So SS stays out of it completely even after you return to part time work. Got it, that's what I figured but wanted to confirm.

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Correct. The only income that affects your UI payment calculation is wages from work performed during the claim week. SS retirement, pension from non-base-period employers, investment income - those are separate matters.

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UPDATE: I filed my claim last night! It was actually pretty straightforward. I did the whole online process through UI Online and it took maybe 45 minutes. Didn't see anything that made me need to disclose Social Security income which lined up with everything people said here. It shows my claim as pending while they verify my wages with my former employer. The ID.me verification was a little clunky but I got through it on the second attempt. Thank you all so much for the help. I'll report back once I hear something.

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Great news!! Pending while they verify wages is totally normal. Usually resolves within a week or so unless they need more info.

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Yay!! Good luck, hope it processes quickly 🎉

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Awesome! Fingers crossed for smooth processing. And if you ever do hit a snag and need to reach an EDD agent, remember claimyr.com made the process a lot less painful for me. Hopefully you won't need it but good to know it's there.

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Great outcome. For what it's worth, the 'pending' status while they verify wages is the normal first step for virtually every new claim. Nothing to worry about unless it changes to something that requires your response.

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does drawing social security affect your eligibility for any kind of extended benefits if regular UI runs out?

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Extended benefits (EB) in California are triggered by statewide unemployment rate thresholds, not by individual circumstances. Your SS income would not make you ineligible for extended benefits if they were available. The same rules that apply to regular UI - SS income doesn't count - would apply to extended benefits as well.

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Good to know. I'm only 26 weeks into a potential claim so hopefully won't need to think about it but wanted to understand the full picture.

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The thing that gets me is how many older workers don't even KNOW they can file UI because everyone assumes SS cancels it out. Must be millions of dollars in unclaimed benefits every year because of this misconception. Meanwhile EDD sits on it.

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100% my grandmother almost didn't file for this exact reason. She thought SS and unemployment were mutually exclusive. The misinformation is everywhere.

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It's a pretty common misconception nationally because some states used to have the offset rule. A lot of people learned it years ago when it might have been true in their state and never updated their understanding. California being one of the states that eliminated the offset doesn't help when you're getting info from a friend in a different state.

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Exactly. And EDD doesn't exactly make it easy to find clear answers. No wonder people give up and just don't file.

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one more thing worth mentioning - if you're on Medicare and wondering if THAT affects unemployment, same answer: Medicare doesn't affect UI eligibility or benefit amounts. Medical benefits of any kind don't factor into it. just wanted to add that since older workers tend to have multiple benefits going on

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I am actually on Medicare so this is relevant to me. Good to know!

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Yep, totally separate program, no interaction with UI. Good luck with your claim!

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Good addition. To summarize what this whole thread has established: Social Security retirement, Social Security spousal benefits, Medicare, and most pension income from non-base-period employers do not affect UI eligibility or benefit amounts in California. The only income types that matter for EDD purposes are wages from work performed during claim weeks and, in some cases, pension income specifically from a base-period employer.

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