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Can you receive Social Security and unemployment at the same time in California EDD?

So I've been collecting Social Security retirement benefits for about two years now, and then last month my part-time job at a logistics company ended when they downsized our whole department. I filed for California EDD unemployment benefits right away because I was only working part-time to supplement my Social Security income and honestly those extra earnings made a real difference in my budget. Now I'm seeing conflicting information everywhere about whether you can actually receive both Social Security and unemployment at the same time in California. Some websites say yes, some say there's an offset, some say you'll get disqualified entirely. My UI Online claim is showing as pending and I don't know if that's because of the Social Security situation or just normal processing time. Has anyone actually been in this situation where they were getting Social Security and then lost a job and tried to file for California EDD unemployment? What actually happens to your benefit amount?

Yes you can collect both at the same time in California. Unlike some other states, California EDD does NOT reduce your unemployment benefits because of Social Security income. Your weekly benefit amount is calculated solely based on your wages from employment, not your Social Security payments. The federal offset that used to exist was actually repealed back in the 1980s so you won't see any deduction. File your weekly certifications normally and report your Social Security as 'other income' if they ask, but it won't affect your UI payment amount.

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Wait so I don't need to report my Social Security payments at all on my weekly certifications? Or do I still list it somewhere?

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You should still be transparent on your certification. California EDD weekly certifications ask about money received from specific sources. Social Security retirement is generally not classified as 'wages' so it typically doesn't affect your UI benefit, but always answer questions honestly on the form. If you're unsure, calling EDD directly to confirm your specific situation is the safest approach.

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This is correct. I went through exactly this scenario in 2024. Getting both simultaneously, EDD never reduced my weekly payment. Just answered the cert questions honestly each week.

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I was in a similar boat last year - retired but working part time and then got laid off. The main thing to understand is that California EDD calculates your weekly benefit amount (WBA) from your highest earning quarter during the base period, which is your wages only. Social Security retirement income is a separate federal program and California specifically doesn't offset UI benefits against it. Your pending status is probably just normal initial processing, not a Social Security flag.

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That's reassuring. How long did your claim take to get out of pending? Mine has been sitting there for 9 days.

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Mine took about 2 weeks initially. If it goes past 3 weeks with no movement and no notice about adjudication, that's when I'd start trying to contact them.

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yeah 9 days is nothing honestly lol, mine was pending for like 3 weeks before anything happened

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Since you mentioned trying to get clarity from EDD directly - I know everyone dreads calling them but I actually had luck using Claimyr (claimyr.com) when I needed to ask about my specific income situation. They get you connected to an actual EDD agent without you sitting on hold forever. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - it was genuinely useful when I had a nuanced question about income reporting that I didn't trust myself to figure out just from the website.

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Interesting, I've been dreading calling EDD because every time I've tried I either get a busy signal or get disconnected. I'll check that out.

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does it actually work? seems too good to be true with how impossible edd phones are

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I was skeptical too but it worked for me. Got through to an agent who answered my question in about 10 minutes, versus the hours I'd spent trying to call on my own.

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used it last month, can confirm it works, was shocked honestly

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OK so I want to add something here because I've seen people get confused about this - there IS a difference between Social Security RETIREMENT benefits and Social Security DISABILITY (SSDI). If you're receiving SSDI, there can be additional complications because SSDI already requires you to demonstrate inability to work, while unemployment requires you to certify you ARE able and available to work. That's potentially contradictory depending on your disability status. But if you're talking straight retirement benefits like it sounds like OP is, you're totally fine collecting both.

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Yes mine is regular retirement, not disability. Good point though, I can see how that would get complicated for SSDI recipients.

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oh wow I never even thought about that conflict for disability people, that's actually a really important distinction

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Right, and even for SSDI it's not automatic disqualification - it depends on the type of disability, whether you were working with a ticket to work program, etc. It's genuinely complicated for that subset of people and they should call EDD to discuss their individual case.

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my neighbor has ssdi and works part time and had this exact problem, she ended up having to get help from a benefits counselor to sort it out

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can someone clarify what 'able and available to work' means exactly?? like im on social security and just lost my job too and i keep seeing this phrase in the EDD requirements but idk what counts. does having any health condition automatically disqualify you??

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Able and' available means'you re physically capable of working and not placing unreasonable restrictions on the type of work, hours, or location'you d accept. Having a health condition'doesn t automatically disqualify you - it depends on whether that condition prevents you from doing any type of suitable work. Many people with managed health conditions legitimately certify as able andavailable.

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ok that makes more sense, i have some arthritis but i can still do office work so i think im fine? just wasnt sure

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Arthritis that doesn't prevent you from doing your normal type of work would generally be fine. The standard is whether you can do suitable work, not whether you're in perfect health.

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I'm gonna be real with you - the California EDD website is actually pretty helpful on this specific question. If you search 'Social Security' in their FAQ section it addresses the offset question directly. It's one of the cases where their written guidance is clear. What's NOT clear is a lot of the edge cases around income reporting timing and whether things like pension payments interact with UI.

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I did look at the website but I couldn't find that specific FAQ - maybe I'm not searching right. Do you remember what section it was under?

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I think it was under the 'eligibility' section or maybe the 'other income' FAQ. Honestly I found it by googling 'California EDD Social Security unemployment same time' and the EDD page came up directly.

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yeah google is honestly better than EDD's own search for finding stuff on their site, their internal search is terrible

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Something practical that helped me: when you do your weekly certifications, the question about income will ask if you received any income during that week. Social Security comes on a set schedule (usually 2nd, 3rd, or 4th Wednesday of the month depending on your birthday). Be consistent about which week you 'receive' it - the week it deposits, not a different week. EDD looks at when income is received, not when it's earned. This is more of a record-keeping tip than anything that changes your eligibility.

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This is a really good practical tip actually. My SS deposits on the third Wednesday so I need to remember which certification week that falls in.

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Exactly. And save your bank statements. If EDD ever questions anything about your reported income, having records that match what you reported is really important.

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the record keeping advice is solid, I got an overpayment notice once because of inconsistent income reporting and it was a nightmare to sort out

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WAIT I have been getting social security since i turned 65 and i just assumed i couldnt file for unemployment at all when i got laid off last fall so i just... didnt file??? is it too late now?? I feel so dumb

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Oh no - you can go back and file but there are time limits. Unemployment benefits are not retroactive in California beyond the date you file (with very limited exceptions). If you were laid off last fall and waited until now, you likely lost out on several months of benefits you were entitled to. I'd suggest filing immediately if you're still within your base period eligibility and still unemployed or underemployed.

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I'm still not working. I'm filing RIGHT NOW. I can't believe I just assumed I couldn't get it. Why don't they make this clearer??

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This is genuinely one of the most common misconceptions. So many retirees who work part time assume they're categorically excluded. You're not alone, unfortunately.

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please update us and let us know if it works out!! fingers crossed for you

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One more nuance worth mentioning - your Social Security benefit itself could potentially be affected if you're under full retirement age and still working. But if you're already at or past full retirement age, there's no earnings limit that would reduce your SS benefit anyway. And unemployment benefits specifically are NOT counted as 'earnings' against the Social Security earnings limit even for those under full retirement age. So the relationship between the two programs is actually pretty clean in most retirement situations.

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I'm 67 so past full retirement age - so you're saying zero interaction between the two?

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Correct, at 67 you're past the full retirement age threshold, so no earnings test applies to your Social Security at all. Your UI benefits also won't be counted as wages against any SS limit. They really do operate completely independently for your situation.

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This is an underrated point. Under full retirement age there's an earnings limit of something like $22,000-ish per year before SS starts reducing. But past full retirement age that limit disappears entirely. OP is in the clean scenario.

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has anyone dealt with EDD asking for additional documentation when you have multiple income sources? I have Social Security plus a small pension plus I was working part time, and when I filed they sent me this confusing form asking about all income sources and I don't know if I filled it out right

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The form they send when there are multiple income sources is usually just the EDD wanting to verify that none of your non-wage income is actually wages from an employer that should be in your base period calculation. Pension income and Social Security are both handled differently from wages. Fill it out as accurately as possible and be specific about what each income source is.

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ok that makes sense, I think I was overthinking it. The pension is from a job I left 8 years ago so it's definitely not current wages

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If your claim ends up in adjudication over the income documentation, that's when I'd call EDD to explain. In my experience the phone agents are actually better at explaining these edge cases than trying to figure it out from letters alone.

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I got really turned around by this same question last year and spent way too long trying to get a straight answer from EDD. Eventually used Claimyr to actually get someone on the phone because I couldn't get through any other way. The agent confirmed exactly what others are saying here - Social Security retirement doesn't affect California UI benefit amounts. Worth calling just to get it confirmed for your peace of mind if you're worried about it. claimyr.com if you want to try it.

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Yeah I think I'm going to try calling just to have it confirmed for my specific situation. The general answers make sense but I want to hear it for my actual claim.

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did you have to give them your EDD info? I'm always nervous about sharing that kind of stuff

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Claimyr just helps you get connected to EDD - you talk to an actual EDD agent directly once you're connected. It's not like giving your info to a third party, it's more like a service that handles the hold time for you.

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sorry to derail but does anyone know if a pension counts as income you have to report on weekly certs? my dad has a pension and social security and just got laid off and im trying to help him figure this out

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Pension income can affect UI benefits depending on the source. If your dad contributed to the pension himself with his own money, it generally doesn't reduce UI benefits. If his former employer fully funded the pension (he contributed nothing), it may offset his weekly benefit. EDD Form DE 4453 covers this specifically - it's called the Pension Questionnaire and EDD will send it if pension is flagged.

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oh wow I did not know that distinction existed. His pension is through a union so I think he contributed? I'm not sure. We'll have to look into this.

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Union pensions often involve employee contributions, which would mean no offset. But definitely worth having him call EDD or submit documentation once they send the pension questionnaire, because the determination matters a lot for his WBA.

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This is exactly why the 'does other income affect unemployment' question is more complicated than it seems - the answer is genuinely different depending on the type and source of the income

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lol the fact that everyone here knows more about EDD rules than EDD's own website is wild. the unemployment system is so unnecessarily complicated for regular people trying to navigate it

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the website has gotten better honestly but yeah the edge cases require knowing where to look

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true, and forums like this are honestly more useful than half the official documentation because real people are sharing what actually happened in their actual claims

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100% this thread has answered more questions for me than two hours of searching the EDD website did

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Updating to add: there's also the question of whether Social Security affects your base period wages calculation. To be clear - it doesn't. Your base period is just your highest quarter of actual wages from employment. Social Security isn't wages and isn't counted in or against that calculation at all. So your WBA is determined purely by what you earned at your logistics job (and any other employment) during the base period.

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So theoretically my WBA could actually be decent since I was working fairly consistently before the layoff, even though the job was part-time?

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Yes! Part-time wages still count toward your base period calculation. EDD will look at your highest quarter earnings to determine your WBA, up to the maximum weekly benefit amount (which is currently $450/week in California). Even consistent part-time work can get you meaningful UI benefits.

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The $450 max WBA is for lower earners - the actual maximum is higher than that now if your wages qualify. But yes, part-time wages absolutely count and many people are surprised by what they're eligible for.

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this might be a dumb question but when you have both income streams and you file the weekly cert - do you fill out a different form or is it the same UI Online certification that everyone uses?

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Same UI Online weekly certification that everyone uses. There's no special form for people with Social Security or pension income (unless EDD sends you a specific questionnaire after you file, which is separate). The weekly cert itself just asks the standard questions.

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ok good, I was worried there was some separate process I didn't know about

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The EDD may send supplemental forms for your specific situation (like the pension questionnaire mentioned above) but that's mailed separately. Your regular weekly cert through UI Online is always the same process.

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One practical tip from my experience: if your claim does go into adjudication (which can happen with multiple income sources), don't stop filing your weekly certifications during the adjudication period. People sometimes think they have to wait for adjudication to resolve before certifying, but you keep certifying through it. If you're ultimately approved, EDD will pay out all the weeks you certified for retroactively.

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This is really important to know. My claim is still pending so I've been doing my certifications each week - sounds like that's exactly right.

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Yes, never stop certifying during a pending or adjudication status. Missing weeks means losing those benefits permanently since EDD doesn't add them back later even if everything else resolves in your favor.

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I almost made this mistake, my claim was pending for 2 weeks and I thought I wasn't supposed to certify until it was approved. Thankfully someone in another thread told me to keep certifying.

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OP, just to close the loop on your original question since this thread has gone in a bunch of directions: California EDD - Social Security retirement at the same time = YES, fully allowed, no benefit reduction on either side. Your pending status is almost certainly just standard processing. Keep certifying weekly, answer the cert questions honestly, and you should start seeing payments once the initial processing completes. If it stays pending past 3 weeks with no adjudication notice, that's when I'd escalate to calling EDD.

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Thank you for summarizing. This is exactly what I needed to know. I'll keep certifying and give it another week or two before I try to call.

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following this thread because I literally just filed in the same situation. hoping mine goes as smoothly

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Good luck to both of you. The good news is your situation is actually one of the cleaner EDD scenarios - the rules are pretty clear here compared to some other circumstances where eligibility is genuinely ambiguous.

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Since people are mentioning calling EDD - I tried calling three times last week about a different issue and got disconnected twice and just a busy signal the third time. EDD phone access is genuinely broken right now. Someone in another forum mentioned Claimyr (claimyr.com) and I finally got through after watching their walkthrough at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - if you need to actually speak to someone about your multi-income situation I'd just use that instead of the regular number, save yourself the frustration.

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The EDD phone situation is SO bad right now. I spent an entire morning trying to get through last week.

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It's honestly demoralizing. And the questions that actually need phone clarification are usually the complex edge-case ones where you really can't just wing it based on website info.

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noted on claimyr, bookmarking that for when I eventually need to call

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the phone problem has been ongoing for years at this point, not just right now, it's kind of a structural EDD issue

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Final thought from me: once your claim is approved and you start receiving benefits, keep a simple spreadsheet logging your Social Security deposit dates and your UI payment dates separately. If you ever get an overpayment notice down the road, having clean records that show you reported everything correctly is your best defense. Overpayment disputes are really hard to fight without documentation, even when you did everything right.

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Great advice. I'm already keeping records of when I submit my certifications and what I report each week. I'll add the SS deposit tracking to that.

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seconding the record keeping advice so hard. I lost an overpayment dispute once partly because I didn't have solid records of what I'd reported. Keep everything.

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Screenshots of your submitted certifications in UI Online are also useful since EDD's records aren't always easy to access retroactively from your end.

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