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Ravi Malhotra

Can you collect unemployment and Social Security at the same time in California?

So I got laid off from my warehouse job about 6 weeks ago at age 64 and I've been collecting Social Security retirement benefits since I turned 62. I went ahead and filed for California EDD unemployment benefits because my supervisor confirmed I was laid off through no fault of my own, but now I'm second-guessing myself. A friend told me you can't get both at the same time and I might get in trouble for even applying. I reported my Social Security income when I filed my UI claim but I honestly have no idea if that disqualifies me or reduces my weekly benefit amount. Has anyone actually dealt with this situation? I don't want to end up with an overpayment notice down the road because I collected benefits I wasn't supposed to get.

Good news - in California you CAN collect both unemployment insurance and Social Security retirement at the same time. California EDD does not offset or reduce your UI weekly benefit amount because you're receiving Social Security retirement. This changed back in the early 2000s when California eliminated the Social Security offset that used to reduce UI benefits. So your friend was thinking of old rules that no longer apply. As long as you meet all the regular eligibility requirements (able and available to work, actively looking for work, laid off through no fault of your own), receiving Social Security retirement does not affect your California EDD claim at all.

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Oh wow that is such a relief to hear. So I won't get an overpayment notice later? I reported the Social Security income when I filed so EDD has that information already.

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wait really?? i always thought SS reduced your unemployment. good to know for when my dad eventually gets laid off hes been on SS for 2 years

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Yes correct - because you disclosed it when filing, EDD already factored that into their records. Since California eliminated the offset, it won't reduce your WBA. You're fine.

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This is accurate. California is one of the states that fully eliminated the Social Security offset for UI purposes. Federal law used to allow states to reduce UI benefits by up to 50% of Social Security retirement income but California opted out of that reduction completely. Your weekly benefit amount is calculated purely on your base period wages from your job, not affected by any Social Security you receive. Keep filing your weekly certifications, meet your job search requirements (you need to document 3 employer contacts per week in California), and you're good.

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The job search requirement - does that apply even though I'm 64? I wasn't sure if there were any exemptions for older workers.

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Unfortunately no automatic age exemption for job search requirements in California UI. You need to complete 3 work search activities per week and log them. That said, activities can include things beyond just submitting applications - attending job fairs, setting up a CalJOBS profile, networking, etc. And if you're on approved standby status from your former employer, you'd be exempt but that's a separate situation.

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the job search thing trips so many people up. my uncle got disqualified because he didnt know he had to do 3 contacts a week while on SS + unemployment

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I was in almost this exact situation last year - 63 years old, laid off from a logistics company, already drawing Social Security. I was terrified I was doing something wrong collecting both. Took me forever to get through to an EDD agent to confirm because the phone lines are absolutely brutal. I kept getting the 'we cannot take your call at this time' message for like 2 weeks straight. Eventually a friend pointed me toward Claimyr - it's a service at claimyr.com that holds your place in the EDD phone queue and calls you back when an agent is available. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows how it works. I finally got through and the agent confirmed everything - Social Security does NOT affect your California UI benefit amount. Huge relief.

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Thank you for sharing this. I've been trying to call EDD for 3 days and can't get through. Will look into that Claimyr service.

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claimyr actually works?? i've been trying to reach EDD for a week about a different issue

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Yeah it genuinely worked for me. I was super skeptical but I was desperate at that point. Got a callback within a couple hours.

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bookmarking this for when i inevitably need it lol edd phone lines are the worst

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WAIT. I was told by an EDD rep like 3 years ago that SS DOES reduce your benefits!! Now I'm reading this thread and getting confused. Did the rules change recently or was that rep just wrong??

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The rep was wrong or you may have misunderstood. California eliminated the Social Security offset decades ago - it has not reduced UI benefits in this state for a very long time. You might be thinking of disability insurance (SDI) which has different rules, or possibly SSDI (disability) vs. retirement which are handled differently.

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ohhhh maybe it was about SSDI not regular retirement SS. that makes more sense. thanks for clarifying

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Yes this is a really common confusion point. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) and retirement benefits are completely different programs with different interactions with UI. Worth knowing the distinction.

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Just to add some practical detail here for anyone searching this later: when you file your California EDD claim you'll see a question asking about 'other income' during the application. Social Security retirement income should be reported there. EDD will record it but since California has no offset policy, it literally does not change your weekly benefit amount calculation. Your WBA is based entirely on your highest earning quarter in your base period from your W-2 employment. The only income that CAN affect your weekly claim is wages earned DURING your benefit year - like if you work part time while collecting UI, you report those earnings on your weekly cert and EDD adjusts your payment accordingly. SS retirement is treated completely separately.

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This is really helpful context. So even if I do some part time work while collecting, as long as I report it I should be okay?

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Exactly. Part time earnings get reported on your weekly certification. EDD has a partial benefit formula - if you earn less than your WBA in a given week you'll still get some UI payment. The formula is roughly: any earnings over 25% of your WBA get deducted dollar for dollar. So it's still worth working part time, you won't lose everything.

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Got it! That part time earnings formula is good to know. Might look for some temp work while I job search.

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my mom went through this exact thing and she panicked SO much about it. she even stopped certifying for like 2 weeks because she was scared. do NOT do that - you'll lose those weeks and EDD is very hard about backdating

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Oh no - I've been certifying every two weeks. You think I'm okay? I haven't missed any certification periods.

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if you haven't missed any you're totally fine! my mom lost like $900 worth of benefits because she was too scared to certify. definitely keep doing what you're doing

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this is such good advice. people freeze up out of fear and then lose money they were entitled to

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Something I want to flag because it came up in my own situation - make sure you know the difference between Social Security RETIREMENT benefits and Social Security DISABILITY (SSDI). They have very different interactions with unemployment. For SSDI specifically, there can be complications because SSDI requires you to demonstrate inability to work, while UI requires you to be ABLE and AVAILABLE to work. That contradiction can create adjudication issues. But standard Social Security retirement has no such conflict - you can fully be able and available to work while receiving retirement benefits. Lots of people work well past 62 while collecting SS retirement. Just wanted to make sure the OP is dealing with retirement and not disability.

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Yes I'm on regular retirement benefits, started at 62 even though I kept working. Not on disability. So sounds like I'm in the clear.

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Perfect, then you have nothing to worry about on that front. The able-and-available requirement is where SSDI recipients run into problems, not retirement recipients.

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this is actually such an important distinction. wish more people knew this before filing

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honestly the california edd system is SO confusing that even their own reps give wrong info sometimes. I called twice about a different issue and got two completely different answers. always try to get things confirmed in writing or from multiple sources

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That's scary - so even if I do get through to an agent I might get wrong info?

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unfortunately yes it happens. the agents are overworked and sometimes confused themselves. if you get an answer that seems wrong or doesn't match what you read online, call back and ask again or ask for a supervisor

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This is true but the SS offset thing is well established California law so you're unlikely to get wrong info on that specific question. It's more ambiguous situations where reps sometimes err.

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I had trouble getting any straight answers from EDD about my claim status after I started getting SS benefits and also filed UI. Spent days trying to call. Someone in another thread mentioned Claimyr and I finally tried it - claimyr.com - and it actually got me connected to a live EDD agent after I'd been trying on my own for almost two weeks. The agent walked me through exactly how my claim was being processed and confirmed the SS retirement income had no effect on my weekly payment. Wish I'd known about it sooner.

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two weeks of trying to call edd sounds like an absolute nightmare. glad you found something that worked

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honestly it was destroying my mental health lol. being in limbo about whether you're going to get paid while bills pile up is really stressful

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I'm going to try Claimyr this week. I really do want to hear it confirmed from an actual EDD agent.

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quick q - does collecting unemployment affect how much SS you get? like does it go the other way?

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No. Unemployment insurance benefits are NOT counted as earned income for Social Security purposes and do NOT affect your SS benefit amount. They don't reduce your SS payment, don't count toward SS earnings limits, and don't impact your future SS benefit calculations. The relationship is truly one-directional in California - SS doesn't affect UI, and UI doesn't affect SS.

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thats awesome to know thank you

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Worth noting UI benefits ARE taxable income at the federal level though - you should consider having taxes withheld from your UI payments or setting money aside. Just a heads up since this catches a lot of people off guard at tax time.

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went through this two years ago when my tech company did layoffs. 63 years old, on SS retirement, filed UI same day I got my layoff notice. Got approved no problem, collected full weekly benefit for the whole benefit year. The only wrinkle was making sure I stayed current on my CalJOBS registration and logged my job search activities. The system genuinely does work, just not always obvious how it works.

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This is so reassuring to hear a real success story. Did you actually use CalJOBS to find work or mostly just for compliance?

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Honestly mostly compliance in my case. But I did set up a solid profile on there and it wasn't as clunky as I expected. Some older workers in my area had luck with their employer listings. I ended up finding my next job through LinkedIn but kept the CalJOBS log current.

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the caljobs requirement trips people up so much. glad it worked out

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im kind of in the opposite situation - im 59 and not on SS yet but someone told me that if i take SS early BECAUSE i got laid off that might affect my unemployment claim. is that true??

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Interesting question - taking SS early wouldn't inherently disqualify you from UI but if you're under full retirement age (67 for most people) and collecting SS while also working, there IS an SS earnings limit that can reduce your SS benefits if you earn too much. That's an SS rule though, not a UI rule. From California EDD's perspective, starting SS retirement wouldn't affect your UI eligibility or payment amount regardless of your age.

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ok so its more of an SS issue than an EDD issue got it. probably should talk to SS office about that then

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Yeah that earnings limit question is definitely one for Social Security Administration, not EDD. Two totally separate agencies with their own rules.

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EDD adjudication is already stressful enough without worrying about whether your SS is going to mess things up. For what its worth I just got out of a 5 week adjudication period and it had nothing to do with my SS income - they were investigating something about my separation from my employer. Once I got that resolved (took forever to get through by phone) my claim went through fine. The SS piece was never even mentioned.

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5 weeks in adjudication sounds awful. What ended up resolving it?

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My former employer had checked the wrong reason for separation which triggered adjudication. Once an EDD agent contacted them and got the right information it cleared up. But those 5 weeks of not knowing were brutal.

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adjudication is genuinely one of the scariest parts of the process because you get no information and just have to wait

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For people reading this thread later: the key things to remember about collecting California EDD unemployment while on Social Security retirement are 1) California eliminated the SS offset so SS income does NOT reduce your UI weekly benefit amount 2) you still must meet all standard UI eligibility requirements including able/available/actively seeking work and completing 3 weekly job search activities 3) report your SS income when you file your initial claim 4) UI benefits don't affect your SS payment either direction 5) the retirement vs disability distinction matters a lot so make sure you know which you're receiving. This comes up SO often and the confusion is totally understandable given how poorly EDD communicates about it.

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This is like the perfect summary post. Thank you so much. I feel way more confident about my claim now.

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should be pinned honestly. this exact question comes up all the time

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Happy to help. The California UI system has enough real pitfalls without people worrying about things that aren't actually issues. Good luck with your claim OP.

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genuinely so helpful. saving this thread

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One more thing nobody mentioned - when you're doing your weekly certifications and they ask if you were able and available to work that week, ALWAYS answer yes unless you genuinely weren't (like you were sick or injured). Some older workers hesitate on that question thinking they need to qualify it somehow because of their age or retirement status. You don't. Being on SS retirement does not mean you're not able and available to work. Answer that question based on your actual physical and practical availability, not your retirement status.

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This is actually a really helpful thing to flag. I did wonder about that question. I AM able and available - I want to keep working - so I should just answer yes.

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Exactly. You worked your whole career, you want to keep contributing, you got laid off unfairly - you are absolutely able and available. Answer accordingly.

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this is good practical advice. the weekly cert questions are weirdly worded and easy to overthink

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just want to say this thread genuinely helped me too. i'm in a similar boat and been losing sleep over whether my SS would disqualify me or reduce my benefits. reading all these responses from people who've been through it is exactly what i needed

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Glad I'm not the only one! This community is really helpful for navigating stuff EDD makes so confusing.

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seriously. the official EDD website is so hard to parse. sometimes just hearing from real people who dealt with it is worth more than reading the official FAQs

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agreed. and when you do need to actually talk to EDD, claimyr.com was a lifesaver for me when the phone lines were impossible. just putting it out there again for anyone who hasn't tried it yet - check out the demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10

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