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Can you collect unemployment if you are collecting social security? California EDD rules explained

Retired from my warehouse job about eight months ago and started drawing Social Security, but then my part-time gig at the distribution center got eliminated when they downsized the whole logistics department. I'd been working about 20 hours a week there for the past two years on top of my SS payments. Someone at the job center told me I probably can't file for unemployment because I'm already getting Social Security, but that doesn't sound right to me. I went ahead and filed through myEDD anyway last week but now I'm second-guessing myself. Does Social Security disqualify you from California EDD unemployment? Has anyone been in this situation where they were working part-time while on SS and then got laid off?

Social Security doesn't block you from filing for California unemployment. EDD looks at your wages from the last 18 months to see if your claim is valid — you need at least $1,300 in your highest quarter, or $900 in the highest quarter plus total base period wages at 1.25 times that. Your two years of part-time warehouse work almost certainly gets you there. The SS piece doesn't disqualify you at all.

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That's a relief to hear. The person at the job center had me convinced I was wasting my time filing. My highest quarter at the distribution center was probably around $6,000, so I should be fine on the wage requirement.

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SS income doesn't get counted toward those wage thresholds either, right? Like EDD only looks at actual work wages?

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Correct — the base period calculation is about wages from covered employment, not benefit income. Social Security doesn't factor into whether your claim is valid.

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Had the exact same setup when I got laid off from a part-time retail position two years ago — drawing SS the whole time. Filed through UI Online without any issues. The DE 429Z came about two weeks after I applied and showed my weekly benefit amount based on my retail earnings. Nobody from EDD ever questioned the Social Security side.

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How long did it take for your first payment to actually come through? I'm trying to figure out if I should be worried about this month's bills.

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Took about three weeks from when I filed to get that first payment. There's the waiting week thing — the first week is unpaid, it's just the way the claim works — so the first actual payment covered week two. After that the certifications came through pretty fast.

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three weeks sounds about right, that's what EDD says on their site too

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DE 429Z on my claim showed up about 10 days after I filed, and the weekly amount was calculated only from my part-time job's wages, not the Social Security at all. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to EDD because I had a question about whether my pension from a previous employer would affect my weekly amount on top of the SS situation. The agent pulled up my claim and told me the pension could reduce my weekly benefit amount and that EDD would determine how much, but the Social Security payments themselves wouldn't be deducted or even reported. There's a video on reaching a live EDD rep by phone at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if the phone lines are giving you trouble.

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The pension reducing the benefit is something I hadn't thought about — I don't have a pension from anywhere, just the SS, so sounds like I'm in the clear on that front. Good to know about the phone option too.

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Wait so you do have to report Social Security when you certify? Or is it just pensions?

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From what the agent said about my own claim, Social Security specifically is not deducted and is not reported when certifying. Pensions based on past work are a different matter — EDD decides how those affect the payment amount. The agent was clear that SS sits in a different category.

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that tracks with what I've read on EDD's site, SS is specifically listed as not affecting unemployment benefits

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EDD's own rules say Social Security benefits are not deducted from your weekly benefit amount and you don't report them when certifying. Pensions are a different animal — EDD may reduce your weekly amount depending on the pension situation. But straight Social Security? Not an issue for your claim.

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I keep seeing people say you have to report SS when you certify and it was stressing me out. Glad someone is clarifying this clearly.

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The confusion probably comes from the fact that pension income and retirement pay CAN affect benefits, and people lump SS in with that. They're treated differently under EDD's rules.

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Okay so to summarize what I'm understanding: SS doesn't disqualify me, SS doesn't get reported on certifications, SS doesn't reduce my weekly benefit amount, but a pension MIGHT reduce it. That's the whole picture?

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That's exactly it. And your weekly amount itself comes from your highest quarter of actual wages at the warehouse job, running anywhere from $40 to $450 a week depending on what your earnings looked like.

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My neighbor told me he had to report his Social Security when he certified and that EDD docked his payments because of it. I believed him for a while but then I read the actual EDD rules and that's just not how it works. SS is specifically exempt. He might have been confusing it with a pension he also gets.

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People mix up pensions and Social Security constantly when talking about unemployment. They're in completely different categories for EDD purposes.

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Yeah his situation was more complicated than he let on — he had a pension from the county AND Social Security. The pension was probably what triggered the reduction, not the SS itself.

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Something worth knowing: even though you're already receiving SS, you still have to meet all the regular eligibility requirements while you're collecting unemployment. That means being able to work, available for work, and actively looking for work every week you certify. If your SS situation somehow limits your availability — like if you're drawing disability-based SS rather than retirement SS — that could come up. For regular retirement SS it shouldn't be a problem as long as you're genuinely job searching.

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Mine is straight retirement SS, I've been 66 for two years now. Still very much able and available to work, so that part shouldn't be an issue.

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Then you're in good shape. Keep records of your job search activities — where you applied, dates, that kind of thing — just as a good habit while you're claiming.

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does EDD actually check your work search stuff or is it just the honor system

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EDD can audit work search records, so keeping notes on where you applied and when is worth doing even if it feels like busywork.

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CalJOBS registration is easy to overlook in this situation. Most claimants have to register in CalJOBS and post a resume within 21 days of the date on the Notice of Requirement to Register for Work — that's the DE 8405 — or payments can get paused. EDD will tell you if you're exempt, but don't assume you are just because you're on Social Security.

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I haven't gotten any DE 8405 yet, still waiting on mail from EDD. I'll watch for it and get the CalJOBS registration done right away if it comes.

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The claim documents usually arrive within about two weeks of applying. The DE 429Z showing your weekly benefit amount comes around the same time. Check everything carefully when it arrives.

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caljobs.ca.gov was actually easier to set up than I expected, took me maybe 20 minutes to get the resume posted

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Filed for California EDD unemployment while on Social Security retirement last year after losing a part-time bookkeeping job. The whole process was completely normal — no extra questions about the SS, no additional forms, nothing flagged. Got my weekly amount based only on the bookkeeping wages and certified every two weeks through UI Online like anyone else.

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This is reassuring. Did anything unexpected come up during the process that I should watch for?

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The only hiccup I had was my identity verification through ID.me took a few days to clear, which held up my first payment slightly. If you haven't done that yet, get it done through ID.me sooner rather than later.

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Already did the ID.me verification when I applied, so hopefully that part is good.

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EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator on edd.ca.gov is worth using if you want to estimate your weekly amount before the DE 429Z arrives. You plug in your quarterly wages and it gives you a ballpark. Helped me not panic about whether the amount would be enough to matter while waiting for official word.

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Just tried the calculator — looks like I'll be getting around $280 a week based on my distribution center wages. Not huge but definitely helpful on top of SS.

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That's a solid weekly amount for part-time work. And it stacks on top of the SS without any reduction, so your combined monthly income during the job search shouldn't be too bad.

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EDD DOESN'T MAKE ANY OF THIS EASY TO FIND. I spent three days reading the EDD website trying to figure out the Social Security question before I finally found the one line that says it isn't deducted. They should put that front and center for the thousands of retirees working part-time who get laid off. The system acts like everyone filing is 25 years old with no other income.

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The EDD site really does bury information like this. The main unemployment pages don't address the SS question at all — you have to dig into the certification details to find the one mention of it.

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And then there's the phone situation. Tried calling 1-800-300-5616 for 45 minutes one morning and never got through to a person. Live chat through UI Online only runs 9 to 2 on weekdays which is basically impossible if you have any kind of job or appointment during those hours.

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the phone lines are genuinely brutal, I feel this

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Part-time work while on Social Security is actually really common these days and it's wild how little information exists about how unemployment interacts with it. My dad is in a similar situation — retired, drawing SS, was doing consulting work when that contract dried up. He had no idea he might even be eligible to file.

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Tell your dad to check the wage requirements first — he needs at least $1,300 in his highest quarter of the base period for the claim to be valid. If he was consulting regularly he might have more than enough.

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His consulting income was pretty steady for two years so he should be fine on the wage side. I'll tell him about the CalJOBS registration requirement too since I didn't know about that until this thread.

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Worth clarifying something that came up earlier in this thread — the person who said they thought SS income counted toward EDD's wage threshold had it backwards. The base period only looks at wages from covered employment. What EDD pays you in Social Security has zero connection to whether your unemployment claim is valid or how big your weekly check is.

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Yeah I asked that question earlier and appreciate the clarification. I was confusing myself.

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It's a natural confusion — both are government benefit programs, both show up in your monthly income, so people assume they're somehow linked for EDD purposes. They're completely separate systems.

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Paycheck from the distribution center job — do part-time employers even pay into California's unemployment system? I've heard some people say employers can opt out or something. Just want to make sure the wages actually count toward the claim.

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Pretty much all California employers pay into UI, there's no opting out for private employers. Working for a nonprofit or government entity doesn't change your eligibility either — former workers at those places file and get paid just like anyone else. Your distribution center wages absolutely count.

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Good to know, I wasn't sure about that. I've also heard something about how workers pay into unemployment through their paychecks — is that true?

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That's actually a myth worth busting. Employers pay the UI tax, nothing gets taken from your paycheck for unemployment insurance. What you might see as a deduction on a California paystub is CASDI — that covers State Disability Insurance and Paid Family Leave, which are different programs entirely.

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Huh, never knew that. I always assumed that deduction was going to unemployment somehow.

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DE 4581 is the mail certification form if you can't or don't want to use UI Online to certify. But honestly UI Online is much faster — payments often process within 24 hours of certifying online. The mail option exists but it slows everything down significantly.

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Definitely planning to use UI Online for certifications. I've already got the account set up from when I applied.

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Set up direct deposit in myEDD while you're in there if you haven't already. Faster than waiting for the Money Network debit card to show up and load.

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The waiting week tripped me up when I first filed. I kept certifying and panicking that only one week of pay was showing up. Someone finally explained it's just how every California unemployment claim starts — first week is always unpaid regardless of anything else. Doesn't come off your total claim amount either.

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I did see this mentioned above and I think I understand it now — first eligible week is unpaid, the total amount the claim can pay doesn't change because of it. Is that right?

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Exactly. Your maximum benefit amount is based on 26 times your weekly rate or half your total base period wages, whichever is less. The waiting week doesn't shrink that pool.

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I didn't understand the waiting week at all when I first filed and lost a week of payments because I didn't certify. If you don't certify a week, EDD can't pay it.

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Former HR coordinator here. Ran benefits for a mid-size logistics company for years. The Social Security plus unemployment situation comes up with part-time older workers more than you'd think, and you're right to file. EDD determines eligibility based on your work history and wages, full stop. I've never seen SS disqualify anyone from a valid UI claim in California.

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Having someone with HR background confirm this is really helpful. Did you ever see situations where the interaction between SS and unemployment created any unexpected issues?

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The only consistent wrinkle I saw was with pension income, not Social Security. Some employees had both SS and a pension, and the pension reduction sometimes surprised people. But pure SS? Never caused an issue on a California claim in my experience.

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Pensions seem to be the thing that actually matters here and yet they barely come up when people search for the Social Security question. Worth knowing the distinction.

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Spent 20 minutes on hold with EDD a few weeks back trying to ask about my own base period calculation after switching from full-time to part-time before getting laid off. Tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) after giving up on the regular phone line, and ended up speaking with an EDD agent who looked up my claim and told me exactly which quarters were in my base period and what my weekly benefit amount came out to — $310. Knowing the exact number helped me plan.

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That's exactly the kind of specific answer I wish I could get. My base period question is whether my two years of part-time work all falls within the standard base period or if some of it drops off.

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The standard base period is the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before the claim starts. So if you just filed, the most recent completed quarter may not be in it. If your wages in those four quarters aren't enough, EDD automatically looks at the alternate base period — the last four completed quarters — but only if the standard one doesn't make a valid claim.

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Appeal rights are also worth knowing about even if you don't end up needing them. If EDD sends you a Notice of Determination that you disagree with for any reason, you have 30 days from the mailing date on that notice to appeal in writing. Use the Appeal Form DE 1000M that comes with it, or write a letter, and mail it to the address on the notice.

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Hopefully I won't need that, but good to know the timeline. 30 days from the mailing date, got it.

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Keep certifying even if something comes up and there's a pending issue or an appeal. EDD can only pay back weeks that were actually certified — if you stop certifying during a dispute, those weeks are gone.

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My layoff from a hotel kitchen last spring had a weird wrinkle — my employer was slow to respond to EDD after I filed, which delayed my claim. EDD eventually moved forward based on what I told them, but I was nervous for weeks about whether the Social Security I draw would somehow complicate things. It didn't. Payments started once the employer issue cleared and I'd certified.

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Used Claimyr to get through to EDD during that delay because UI Online just showed 'Pending' with no explanation. The agent confirmed the employer hadn't responded yet and told me EDD would proceed regardless, which settled my nerves completely.

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Pending weeks with no explanation are the worst. Good to hear the system eventually moves forward even without employer response.

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An employer not responding to EDD actually works against the employer — they lose the ability to appeal the claim decision if they don't respond within the timeframe EDD gives them.

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Tax picture is also worth knowing for people in the OP's situation. Unemployment benefits are taxable federal income, so you'll owe federal tax on whatever EDD pays you. At each certification EDD gives you the option to withhold 10 percent for federal taxes, which saves the headache of a surprise bill. California doesn't tax unemployment benefits.

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I'll definitely turn on that 10 percent federal withholding — last thing I need is a bigger tax bill in April on top of everything else.

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EDD sends a Form 1099G each January for the prior year. It also shows up in UI Online under Payments then Form 1099G. Keep that for your tax return.

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California not taxing UI benefits is one of the actually decent things about this state's system

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Months from my claim ran out before I found new work, and I looked into whether training benefits could extend things. California Training Benefits let you keep collecting without looking for work if you're in EDD-approved training, and there's a training extension possible too — but you have to request it before your 16th week of benefits. Not everyone qualifies automatically. Worth looking into if the job search stretches longer than expected.

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I hadn't heard about the training extension before. I'm not planning to go back to school but good to know that option exists in California.

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The main thing is that the standard claim runs up to 26 weeks and there's no general extension right now beyond that. Training Benefits is one of the few ways to potentially go longer, but EDD has to approve the specific program first.

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26 weeks being the max without training approval is something more people should know going in. I've seen people assume there's always an extension available.

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Reached out to Claimyr after spending a whole Tuesday morning trying to get through on the EDD phone line about my income reporting question — I'd earned a small amount of freelance income during one certification period and wasn't sure how to handle it. Got through to an EDD agent who explained exactly how the earnings offset works for that week: the first $25 or 25 percent of gross earnings, whichever is greater, doesn't count, and the rest comes off the weekly benefit amount.

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That earnings formula is actually useful context even for my situation — if I pick up any part-time work while claiming I'll need to know how to report it correctly.

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Report wages for the week you earned them, not when you get paid — that's the key thing that trips people up. If you earn it Monday through Sunday, that's the week it goes on even if the check comes two weeks later.

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