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side note but does anyone else think its RIDICULOUS that they expect us to know all these complicated rules?? like what even is an IRT really and why do they make it so confusing with the gross vs net stuff? i swear they make it complicated on purpose so people mess up and they can cut people off
FOR REAL!!!! I have a folder 3 inches thick of all the CalWORKs paperwork they've sent me and half of it contradicts the other half. And then when you try to ask questions they act like you should already know everything. It's a hot mess.
The system definitely isn't user-friendly. If anyone needs a simple explanation: IRT stands for Income Reporting Threshold - it's the income limit where you must report changes mid-period instead of waiting for your next SAR7 or recertification. Your IRT amount should be on your approval notices and is usually set at 130% of the Federal Poverty Level for your household size.
This is such a common confusion! I went through the exact same thing when I first started working. The key thing to remember is that the IRT is ALWAYS compared to your gross income (before taxes and deductions). Even though it feels unfair since that's not what you actually take home, that's how the system works. I'd recommend calling your worker to report the change ASAP since you're over the gross threshold - waiting could definitely lead to overpayment issues. And don't worry too much about losing all your benefits! With the earned income disregards, you'll likely still qualify for some assistance even if your gross income exceeds the IRT. Better to report now and keep things above board than risk owing money back later.
Thank you so much for explaining this! I'm new to CalWORKs and was completely lost about all these rules. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same confusion. I think I'll call my worker tomorrow to report - better safe than sorry with overpayments. Did you find that your worker was helpful when you called, or did you have trouble getting through like some others mentioned?
This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who works with housing programs, I wanted to add one more resource that hasn't been mentioned yet - the CalWORKs Housing and Disability Advocacy Program (HDAP). Even though it's primarily for people with disabilities, they sometimes assist families with children who are experiencing housing instability due to family conflict situations. Also, when you're preparing your rental applications, consider creating a "housing portfolio" that includes not just your income verification but also letters of recommendation from your child's daycare/school, your employer, and even neighbors who can vouch for you being responsible and quiet tenants. This extra documentation can really help differentiate your application from others. One thing I always tell families in your situation: don't feel guilty about prioritizing your children's emotional wellbeing. Living in a tense environment affects kids in ways we don't always immediately see - sleep issues, behavioral changes, anxiety. You're being an excellent parent by recognizing that the current living situation isn't sustainable and taking action to change it. The fact that you're already working part-time while managing CalWORKs shows you're responsible and motivated. Many landlords will appreciate that combination of stability. Keep pushing forward - your kids will thank you for giving them a peaceful home where they can thrive! 💪
Thank you so much for mentioning the HDAP program - that's another resource I had no idea existed! The housing portfolio idea is brilliant too. I've been so focused on just meeting the basic income requirements that I hadn't thought about how character references could help set my application apart from others. You're absolutely right about not feeling guilty - I keep second-guessing myself wondering if I'm overreacting to the family tension, but you're right that it really does affect kids even when we think they're handling it okay. My 5-year-old has been more clingy lately and my 3-year-old has started having tantrums whenever there's any raised voices in the house. It's validating to hear from someone who works in housing that recognizing this problem and working to fix it is good parenting, not selfishness. The reminder that my work + CalWORKs combination shows responsibility is really encouraging too - sometimes I feel like having to rely on benefits makes me look less qualified as a tenant, but you're right that it actually shows stability. Thank you for all the practical advice and the encouragement! @Liam O'Connor
I'm so sorry you're going through this stressful situation, but you're definitely not alone! I was in a very similar position two years ago with my twin boys (age 4 at the time) living at my aunt's house. The constant tension about parenting decisions was exhausting for everyone. Here's what I learned that might help you: Start by calling your CalWORKs worker and specifically asking about ALL housing assistance programs available - don't just accept "we don't have anything" as an answer. Ask about Housing Support Program, Diversion Services, TANF Emergency Aid, and the Family Stabilization Program. I had to call three different times before I got connected to someone who actually knew about these programs. Also, look into your county's Continuum of Care program - they often have rapid rehousing assistance that can help with deposits and short-term rental assistance even if you're not technically homeless. Being in an unstable family situation often qualifies. One practical tip: when apartment hunting, bring a folder with all your documentation (CalWORKs verification letter, pay stubs, references) and a brief letter explaining your situation and why you'd be a great tenant. This shows landlords you're organized and serious. The stress you're feeling is completely valid - kids pick up on family tension way more than we realize. Moving out isn't selfish, it's protecting your children's emotional wellbeing. You've got this, mama! Keep us updated on how the housing search goes. 💙
I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm pretty new to having CalWORKs benefits and was planning a trip to visit my sister in Oregon next month. I had absolutely no idea about these out-of-state ATM restrictions - I definitely would have been one of those people standing at a Bank of America ATM getting frustrated when it didn't work! The cash back strategy makes so much sense now that everyone's explained it. I'm going to map out some Walmart and Target locations near where I'll be staying so I have backup options. The tip about testing your card early in the trip is really smart too - I would have definitely waited until I was desperate for cash and then panicked. It's honestly pretty disappointing that none of this information is explained when you first get your benefits. They really should include a simple travel guide or at least mention these restrictions during the initial process. This community discussion has been way more helpful than any official paperwork I've received. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real experiences - it's made me feel so much more prepared for traveling with my EBT card!
Welcome to the community! You're definitely not alone in being surprised by these travel restrictions - it seems like almost everyone here discovered them the hard way! Oregon is actually pretty EBT-friendly from what I've heard, so you should have good luck with the cash back method at stores there. One thing I'd add that others haven't mentioned yet is to maybe bring a small backup form of ID when you're doing cash back transactions, just in case any store asks for additional verification since you're from out of state. I've never had it happen personally, but I always feel more confident having it just in case. Also, if you're going to be near any major cities in Oregon, you might want to check if they have any co-op grocery stores - they're often really accommodating with EBT transactions. Hope your visit with your sister goes smoothly and thanks for jumping into the conversation!
This thread has been so incredibly helpful! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now - I'm visiting my grandmother in Michigan for a few weeks and ran into the same ATM problems. I tried three different bank ATMs yesterday and kept getting error messages, which was really stressful since I needed cash for transportation. After reading everyone's advice here, I went to a Meijer grocery store today and was able to get cash back with no issues! The cashier was super helpful and even explained that they see this situation pretty often with out-of-state EBT cards. I was able to get $150 in cash back which should last me for several days. One thing I'll add that might help others - I found that some of the smaller, local grocery stores were actually more accommodating than I expected. There's a family-owned market near my grandmother's house where the owner said he's helped several people with out-of-state EBT cards over the years. Sometimes these smaller places are more flexible and understanding. It's really frustrating that this information isn't provided upfront when you get your benefits, but I'm so grateful for communities like this where people share real experiences. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion - you've made my trip so much less stressful!
Hey, I've been following this thread and wanted to add something that might help your friend. I went through a similar situation last year when my county started really cracking down on immunization compliance. One thing I learned is that the quality of the Good Cause explanation really matters. Like CosmicVoyager mentioned, just writing "I don't believe in immunizations" probably won't be enough. When I helped my neighbor with her form, we made sure to be very specific about her religious beliefs and how they specifically conflicted with vaccination requirements. Also, even if the initial Good Cause claim gets denied, don't panic! The appeal process (State Hearing) gives you another chance to present your case with better documentation. I'd recommend your friend start gathering supporting documents now - letters from religious leaders, documentation of specific religious teachings, etc. - just in case she needs them for an appeal. The most important thing is to stay in communication with her worker and respond to any requests for additional information quickly. Counties sometimes deny claims just because people don't provide enough detail, not necessarily because the reason itself is invalid. Hope this helps and that everything works out for your friend!
This is really great advice! I'm new to this whole CalWORKs system and honestly had no idea there was an appeal process if the Good Cause gets denied. That makes me feel a lot better knowing there's a second chance. I'll definitely tell my friend to start getting those religious documents together now instead of waiting. Do you happen to know how long the appeal process usually takes? I'm worried about her being without full benefits for too long while everything gets sorted out.
I'm pretty new to navigating CalWORKs myself, but I wanted to share what I learned from my case worker about the timeline for appeals since someone just asked about it. When you request a State Hearing, they're supposed to schedule it within 90 days, but it's usually much faster - like 30-45 days in most counties. The good news is that if you request the hearing before your benefits get reduced, you can ask for "aid continuing" which means they keep paying your full amount while the appeal is pending. You have to specifically ask for this though - it's not automatic. One thing that really helped me when I was dealing with a different CalWORKs issue was keeping a simple log of every phone call and interaction. I just wrote down the date, who I talked to, and what they said. It sounds like overkill but it actually saved me when there was confusion about what documents I had already submitted. Also wanted to mention that some counties have CalWORKs advocates or legal aid services that can help with appeals for free. It might be worth looking into if your friend's situation gets more complicated. The whole system can be really overwhelming when you're dealing with it alone!
Thanks for sharing all that info about the appeals process! The "aid continuing" thing is super important to know - I had no idea you could keep getting full benefits while the appeal is pending. That's exactly what my friend needs to hear since she's so worried about losing money for rent. I'm definitely going to tell her to start that log you mentioned too. She's already been making some calls and it would probably help to write everything down going forward. Do you know if there's a specific way to request the "aid continuing" or is it just something you mention when you ask for the hearing? I want to make sure she doesn't miss that step if her Good Cause gets denied. The legal aid idea is really smart too - I didn't even think about that being an option for CalWORKs issues. Thanks for all the helpful advice!
When you request the State Hearing, you need to specifically check the box or write on the form that you want "aid continuing" - don't just mention it verbally. The form usually has a section where you can request continued benefits pending the hearing outcome. If your friend gets a Notice of Action about a sanction or reduction, she has to request the hearing AND the aid continuing within 10 days of getting that notice to keep her full benefits. After those 10 days, she can still appeal but won't get the continued aid. I learned this the hard way with a different issue last year. Make sure she knows about that tight deadline!
Yara Sayegh
I'm new to CalWORKs and just went through something similar last month! When I reported going over my IRT, I was terrified about overpayments too. My caseworker explained that as long as you report timely (which you did!), you're protected from overpayment liability in most cases. The key thing is that going over your IRT doesn't automatically mean you lose benefits - it just triggers a review. With your income level and family size, you'll likely just see a reduction in your grant amount rather than complete termination. One thing I learned is to ask your caseworker specifically about the "earned income disregard" calculations. They don't count all of your earned income, which might keep you eligible even with the new job. Also, if you're still waiting to get through by phone, try sending a secure message through your BenefitsCal account if your county has that feature enabled - sometimes that gets a faster response than calling. You're doing everything right by reporting promptly and being proactive about understanding the process!
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Madison King
•Thank you for sharing your experience! It's so helpful to hear from someone who just went through this recently. I'm definitely feeling more optimistic after reading everyone's responses here. I didn't know about the secure messaging option in BenefitsCal - I'll check if my county has that feature since I've been having such a hard time getting through by phone. The earned income disregard thing seems really important and I want to make sure my caseworker explains exactly how they're calculating everything. It's reassuring to know that reporting on time helps protect against overpayment issues. Thanks for the encouragement!
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Haley Stokes
I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Just started a new job two weeks ago and went over my IRT. The stress about potential overpayments is real - I've been losing sleep over it. What's helped me is creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything: when I reported, confirmation numbers, dates I tried calling, etc. I also opened a separate savings account and I'm putting any benefits I receive there until I get clarity on my eligibility status. That way if there is an overpayment, I have the money set aside. From everything I'm reading in this thread, it sounds like we might both be overthinking this. The earned income disregards seem like they could really help keep us eligible. Still nerve-wracking though! Let me know what you find out when you talk to your caseworker - I'm in the same boat waiting for answers.
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Douglas Foster
•That's such a smart idea about the separate savings account! I'm definitely going to do that too - it would give me so much peace of mind to know the money is there if needed. The spreadsheet idea is great too for keeping track of everything. It's nice to know someone else is going through the exact same situation right now. From what everyone here is saying about the earned income disregards and how going over the IRT doesn't automatically mean losing benefits, I'm feeling more hopeful. I'll definitely update once I finally get through to my caseworker - hopefully we'll both get good news soon!
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