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Diez Ellis

Who pays for unemployment benefits in Washington state - employer or government?

I'm trying to understand who actually pays for unemployment benefits in Washington. My friend told me it comes from taxes that employers pay, but I thought it was government money. I just got laid off and I'm worried about applying for benefits if it's going to hurt my former employer somehow. Can someone explain how this works? I don't want to cause problems but I really need the help right now.

Your friend is partially right - employers do pay unemployment taxes to fund the system. But it's not a direct payment from your specific employer when you file a claim. Washington ESD collects these taxes from all employers throughout the year and uses that money to pay benefits to eligible claimants.

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So my employer already paid into the system? That makes me feel better about filing.

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Exactly! It's like insurance that employers pay for. You've earned the right to these benefits through your work history.

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dont worry about your employer - they knew this was part of the deal when they hired you. just file your claim and get what you deserve

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Thanks, I needed to hear that. I've been putting off filing because I felt guilty.

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The funding comes from State Unemployment Tax Act (SUTA) contributions that employers pay quarterly. It's calculated based on their payroll and their experience rating - companies with more layoffs pay higher rates. There's also a small Federal Unemployment Tax Act (FUTA) component but that's mainly for administrative costs.

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I had no idea it was this complicated! So if a company lays off lots of people, their rates go up?

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Yes, that's the experience rating system. It's designed to encourage employers to maintain stable employment when possible.

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That's actually pretty smart - makes companies think twice about unnecessary layoffs.

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I was in the same position last year and felt terrible about filing. Turns out I had been calling Washington ESD for weeks trying to get through to ask about this exact thing. Ended up using claimyr.com to actually reach an agent who explained the whole system to me. Check out their demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ - it really helped me understand how to navigate the system.

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I've been having trouble getting through to Washington ESD too. How does that service work?

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It basically helps you get connected to an actual person at Washington ESD instead of sitting on hold for hours. Really straightforward to use.

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washington state has one of the better unemployment systems in the country. your employer isnt paying out of pocket when you file - its already been paid into the state fund

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Good to know! I was worried I was going to cost them money directly.

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Just to clarify - employees don't pay into unemployment insurance in Washington. That's different from some other states where workers contribute a small amount from their paychecks. Here it's 100% employer-funded through those quarterly tax payments.

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Wait really? I swear I see deductions on my paystub for unemployment.

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You might be thinking of Social Security and Medicare taxes, or possibly state disability if your employer offers that. But unemployment insurance specifically is employer-paid in Washington.

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ohh you're right, I was confusing it with the other stuff. thanks for clearing that up

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I'm dealing with this right now too and it's SO confusing! I keep reading about trust funds and federal extensions and I don't understand any of it. Why can't they just explain this stuff in simple terms?

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The trust fund is just where Washington ESD keeps all the money collected from employers. When you get benefits, it comes from that fund.

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That makes sense. What about the federal extension stuff though?

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Federal extensions happen during high unemployment periods. Right now we're just dealing with regular state benefits which last up to 26 weeks.

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the system is designed so you dont have to worry about this stuff. just file your weekly claims and focus on finding work

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You're right, I'm probably overthinking this. I just wanted to understand before I filed.

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My dad owns a small business and he explained it to me like this - every quarter he pays unemployment taxes based on how many employees he has and what his payroll is. That money goes into a big pot that pays everyone's benefits. He doesn't get a bill when someone files a claim.

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That's a great way to think about it - like a big insurance pool everyone pays into.

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Exactly! And he said the rate he pays depends on his industry and how many claims have been filed by his former employees over the years.

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I work in HR and deal with this stuff all the time. The employer tax rate can range from like 0.2% to over 5% of payroll depending on the company's history. But once that money is paid to Washington ESD, individual claims don't directly impact the employer's cash flow.

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Wow, that's a big range! So some companies pay way more than others?

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Yes, it's based on their experience rating. New companies start at a standard rate, then it adjusts based on how many unemployment claims their former employees file.

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That seems fair - companies that lay people off more often should pay more into the system.

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THANK YOU for asking this! I've been wondering the same thing. I got laid off last month and felt so guilty about filing that I waited two weeks. Wish I had known it was already funded by employer taxes.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way! It's not something they really explain clearly.

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Right? I kept thinking I was taking money directly from my former boss's pocket or something.

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Just want to add - if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to ask questions like this, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does help. I used it twice when I had questions about my claim status and it saved me hours of trying to get through on the phone.

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Is that service legit? I'm always skeptical of third-party things when it comes to government benefits.

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I was skeptical too but it just helps you get connected to actual Washington ESD staff. They're not handling your claim or anything, just getting you through to the right person.

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the unemployment system is basically insurance for workers. employers pay the premiums, workers get the benefits when they need them. its that simple

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That's the clearest explanation yet! Why don't they just say it that way on the Washington ESD website?

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One more thing to keep in mind - there are both state and federal components to unemployment funding. The state portion (which is the bulk of your benefits) comes from those employer taxes I mentioned. The federal portion mainly covers administrative costs and extended benefits during economic downturns.

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So even the federal part isn't coming out of general tax revenue?

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The federal portion does come from employer taxes too - it's called FUTA (Federal Unemployment Tax Act). Very small amount compared to what employers pay to the state.

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I've been collecting unemployment for 8 weeks now and I still didn't really understand how it was funded until reading this thread. Makes me feel way less guilty about needing the help.

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Same here! I wish they explained this better when you first file.

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Absolutely. Would have saved me a lot of stress if I'd known from the beginning.

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For what it's worth, I've been an employer in Washington for 15 years and I've never minded paying unemployment taxes. It's part of the cost of doing business and it helps people get back on their feet. Don't feel bad about using benefits you've earned!

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Thank you for saying that! It's nice to hear from an employer's perspective.

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Of course. The system works best when people who need help actually use it. That's what it's there for.

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wait so if I file for unemployment it doesnt hurt my old employer at all? like they dont get a bill or anything?

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Not directly, no. They already paid their quarterly taxes to Washington ESD. Your claim might affect their future tax rate slightly, but there's no immediate bill.

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ok good because I was worried about that. my old boss was actually pretty cool and I didnt want to screw him over

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The way I understand it, employers basically pre-pay for unemployment benefits through their quarterly tax payments. So when you file a claim, the money was already set aside for that purpose. It's not like they're getting an unexpected expense.

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That makes perfect sense. Like insurance premiums that are paid in advance.

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Update on the Claimyr thing - I used it again last week to check on a question about my weekly claim and got through to Washington ESD in like 10 minutes. Definitely recommend if you need to actually talk to someone there instead of just guessing about how things work.

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Good to know! I'll probably need to call them once I get my claim started.

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How much does that service cost? I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for days.

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I'd rather not get into pricing details here, but you can check their site. For me it was worth it just to avoid the frustration of calling over and over.

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This has been really helpful! I'm in the same boat - just got laid off and was hesitant to file because I didn't understand the funding. Sounds like I should just go ahead and submit my application.

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Definitely do it! I'm going to file mine today after reading all these responses.

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Good luck with your claim! Hope the process goes smoothly for both of us.

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