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Ethan Clark

Does your former employer pay unemployment benefits in Washington state?

I just got laid off from my job last week and I'm trying to understand how unemployment works. My friend told me that my former employer has to pay for my unemployment benefits, but that doesn't sound right to me. Does Washington ESD make employers pay when their workers file for unemployment? I'm worried my old boss might get mad at me for filing a claim if it costs him money. Can someone explain how this actually works?

Your employer doesn't pay your unemployment benefits directly. They pay into the unemployment insurance system through quarterly taxes, but they don't write a check specifically for your claim. Washington ESD collects these taxes from all employers and uses that fund to pay benefits.

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Oh that makes more sense! So my boss isn't getting a bill because I filed for unemployment?

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Exactly. Though your claim might affect their tax rate in the future if they have a lot of claims, but that's not your problem to worry about.

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employers pay unemployment taxes based on their experience rating - basically how many former employees have filed claims. so technically yes they do pay but not directly for your specific claim

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What's an experience rating? Never heard of that before.

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It's how Washington ESD calculates an employer's tax rate. Companies with more unemployment claims pay higher rates than those with fewer claims. But this shouldn't stop you from filing - you earned these benefits.

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To clarify the employer payment question - Washington employers pay unemployment taxes quarterly based on their payroll and experience rating. The State Unemployment Tax Act (SUTA) rate can range from 0.19% to 5.4% of wages. This money goes into the unemployment insurance trust fund that Washington ESD uses to pay benefits. Your individual claim doesn't create a direct bill to your former employer.

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So if I file unemployment my employer's taxes might go up next year?

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Potentially, if they have multiple claims. But that's the cost of doing business and you shouldn't feel guilty about claiming benefits you've earned through your work.

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my boss told me not to file because it would cost him money but i filed anyway because i need to eat. turned out he was just trying to scare me

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Wow, that's really manipulative of your boss! I'm glad you filed anyway.

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Unfortunately some employers do try to discourage filing, but it's illegal for them to retaliate against you for claiming unemployment benefits.

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The whole system is confusing! I wish Washington ESD would explain this stuff better on their website instead of making us hunt for answers. I'm still not 100% sure if my employer gets notified when I file a claim.

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Yes, your employer does get notified when you file a claim. Washington ESD sends them a notice so they can respond if they want to contest the claim. But this is standard procedure, not because they're paying your benefits directly.

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Great, so they'll know I filed. I hope they don't try to fight it since the layoff was due to budget cuts.

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I work in HR and can confirm that employers pay unemployment taxes, not individual claims. We get charged based on our experience rating which includes how many valid claims our former employees have filed. It's just a normal business expense though.

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Thanks for the insider perspective! So I shouldn't feel guilty about filing?

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Absolutely not. You paid into the system through your work, and unemployment insurance is there to help workers between jobs. That's exactly what it's for.

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Does anyone know what happens if an employer tries to fight your unemployment claim? Mine just got a notice and I'm worried they'll say I was fired for cause even though it was really just budget cuts.

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If they contest your claim, Washington ESD will investigate and possibly schedule a phone hearing. You'll get a chance to tell your side of the story. If it was truly a layoff due to budget issues, you should be fine.

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That's somewhat reassuring. I have emails about the company's financial problems so hopefully that helps if they do contest it.

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the unemployment system in this state is such a mess. took me 6 weeks to get my first payment and half the time the website doesn't even work

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Six weeks?! I hope mine doesn't take that long. How did you finally get it resolved?

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had to keep calling until i finally got through to someone. took like 50 tries over two weeks

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Just want to add that you should file as soon as possible after losing your job. There's a waiting period before benefits start, and you can't get benefits for weeks you don't file. Don't worry about your employer - focus on getting the help you need.

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Good point! I filed right away but I was worried about the employer thing. Thanks for the reminder about the waiting period.

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For what it's worth, I've been an employer for 15 years and the unemployment taxes are just part of running a business. Good employers budget for this and don't blame employees for filing legitimate claims. Your former boss should understand this.

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That's really good to hear from an employer's perspective. Makes me feel less guilty about the whole thing.

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You earned those benefits through your work. Don't let anyone make you feel bad for using a system that exists to help people like you.

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btw the experience rating thing i mentioned earlier - it only really matters if employers have a pattern of layoffs or firings. one claim here and there doesn't usually move the needle much

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That's reassuring! So my one claim probably won't make a huge difference to their taxes?

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probably not unless theyre a really small company or already have a bad rating

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I'm dealing with a similar situation but my claim is stuck in adjudication. Washington ESD says they need to verify my separation reason but I can't get anyone on the phone to explain what documentation they need. This is so frustrating!

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Just wanted to thank everyone for the information! I was really stressed about filing but now I understand how it actually works. Going to submit my claim tomorrow.

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Good luck! This thread really helped me understand everything too.

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That's great to hear. Remember to keep filing your weekly claims even if your initial claim is still processing.

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One more thing to add - even if your employer contests your claim, you can still receive benefits while Washington ESD investigates. Don't let the fear of a contest stop you from filing.

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Oh wow, I didn't know that! I thought if they contested it I'd have to wait until it was resolved.

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Nope, benefits usually continue during the investigation period. Just make sure you keep filing your weekly claims and respond to any requests for information from Washington ESD.

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Has anyone here had their employer actually contest a legitimate layoff claim? I'm curious how often that happens and what the outcome usually is.

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In my HR experience, most employers only contest claims if they believe the separation was due to misconduct or voluntary quit. Legitimate layoffs rarely get contested because there's no benefit to the employer.

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That makes sense. I guess there's no point in fighting a legitimate claim since they're paying the taxes anyway.

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This thread has been super helpful! I was also confused about the employer payment thing. One question though - do employers have any say in how much unemployment you get, or is that all determined by Washington ESD?

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Your benefit amount is calculated by Washington ESD based on your earnings history over the past year. Employers report your wages but don't determine your benefit amount.

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Got it! So they can't try to lowball the amount or anything like that.

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I'm bookmarking this thread because it answers so many questions I had about unemployment. The Washington ESD website is not very clear about the employer side of things.

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Agreed! I learned more from this discussion than from trying to navigate the official website.

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The Washington ESD site has improved over the years but it's still pretty confusing for first-time filers. Glad this thread could help clarify things.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information. I feel much better about filing my claim now. Time to stop worrying about my former employer and focus on finding my next job!

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Exactly! That's the right attitude. Good luck with your job search!

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Don't forget about the job search requirements once you start receiving benefits. Washington ESD requires you to make a certain number of job contacts each week.

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