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Do employers get charged for unemployment in Washington - confused about how this works

I'm trying to understand how the unemployment system works in Washington state. If I file for unemployment benefits, does my former employer have to pay for it directly? I'm worried about filing because I don't want to cause problems for my old company, but I really need the benefits right now. Can someone explain how this actually works with Washington ESD?

Yes, employers do pay into the unemployment system, but it's not as direct as you might think. Washington employers pay unemployment insurance taxes quarterly based on their payroll and their experience rating. When you file a claim, it doesn't immediately come out of their pocket - it's paid from the unemployment insurance trust fund that all employers contribute to.

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So they're not writing a check specifically for my benefits? That makes me feel better about filing.

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Right, but their tax rate can go up if they have a lot of former employees filing claims. It's called an experience rating.

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Don't worry about your employer - you paid into this system through your work too. Washington ESD uses something called the experience rating system. Employers with more claims against them pay higher tax rates, but that's spread out over time. File your claim if you're eligible!

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This is exactly right. The employer doesn't get a bill for your specific claim amount.

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Thank you, that's really helpful to know. I was so worried about this.

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I had the same concern when I got laid off last year. What happens is employers pay quarterly taxes to Washington ESD based on their payroll and their claims history. If they have a lot of unemployment claims, their tax rate goes up over time, but they're not paying your specific benefit amount directly.

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Did your employer give you any trouble when you filed?

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No trouble at all. Most employers understand this is just part of the system.

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How does that work? Do they just help you get through the phone system?

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That sounds really helpful. I might need to try that if I have more questions.

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To add more detail - Washington uses what's called the 'benefit ratio method' to calculate employer tax rates. They look at the total benefits paid to your former employees over a 3-year period compared to your total taxable payroll. Higher ratio = higher tax rate, but it's capped and there are minimums too.

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Mei Liu

Do all employers pay the same base rate to start?

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New employers start at a standard rate, then it adjusts based on their claims experience after a few years.

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just to be clear - employers can contest your claim if they think you weren't eligible (like if they fired you for misconduct). That's when Washington ESD does an adjudication to decide if you qualify. But that's about eligibility, not about who pays.

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Oh no, what happens if they contest it? I was laid off due to budget cuts.

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If it was a legitimate layoff you should be fine. Contests usually happen when there's a dispute about why someone left.

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Budget cuts = clear case for unemployment benefits. You shouldn't worry about a contest.

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I manage payroll and can confirm - we pay our Washington ESD unemployment taxes quarterly regardless of whether any of our former employees file claims. The money goes into the state trust fund first, then benefits are paid out of that fund.

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So there's like a buffer between what employers pay and what gets paid out?

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Exactly. The trust fund acts as that buffer. During recessions it can get depleted, but normally it covers all benefit payments.

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Small employers (like under 4 employees) sometimes don't even have to pay into the system initially. There are different rules based on company size and industry.

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Mei Liu

Really? I didn't know there were size exemptions.

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Yeah, there are thresholds. I think it's based on having employees for a certain number of weeks per year.

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ugh this whole system is so confusing!! I've been putting off filing because I was worried my old boss would hate me. Sounds like I was worried about nothing?

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You were worried about nothing. File your claim - that's what the system is for!

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Same here! I wasted weeks worrying about this when I should have just filed right away.

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One thing to remember - even if your employer's taxes go up slightly because of claims, that's spread across all their employees' wages. It's not like they're paying thousands of dollars because you filed. The impact is usually pretty minimal for most businesses.

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That makes sense. I guess I was imagining it wrong - like they'd get a huge bill with my name on it.

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Nope, nothing like that. The tax rate changes are gradual and based on overall experience.

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Does anyone know if the employer gets notified when you file a claim? I'm just curious about the process.

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Yes, Washington ESD sends a notice to the employer when a former employee files. They have a chance to provide information about the separation, but again, this is about eligibility, not payment responsibility.

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Thanks! Good to know what to expect.

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My brother owns a small business and he's always complaining about unemployment taxes, but he pays the same amount whether his former employees file claims or not - at least in the short term. The rate adjustments happen later during the annual review.

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Yeah, the rates are set annually based on the previous year's experience. It's not immediate.

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So there's even more of a buffer than I thought. This is really reassuring.

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Another thing about using Claimyr - when I talked to the Washington ESD agent through their service, she explained that employers actually prefer when eligible employees file quickly rather than waiting. Something about it being better for the overall system timing.

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That's interesting. I never thought about it from that angle.

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Really? Why would they prefer that?

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I think it had to do with how the experience rating calculations work, but I'm not 100% sure on the details.

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The bottom line is you shouldn't feel guilty about filing. You and your employer both contributed to this system while you were working. It's insurance - you use it when you need it.

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You're absolutely right. I need to stop overthinking this and just file my claim.

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Exactly! That's what it's there for.

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wait so if I worked for multiple employers last year, do they all get affected by my claim or just the most recent one?

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Good question! Washington ESD looks at your base period earnings (usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters) and charges back to employers based on the wages they paid you during that period. So potentially multiple employers could be affected, but it's proportional to what you earned from each.

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Ohh that makes sense. Thanks for explaining!

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I had to learn all this when I got laid off from my restaurant job. The manager was actually really supportive and told me to file right away. Turns out most employers in industries with seasonal layoffs are very familiar with the process.

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That's really nice that your manager was supportive. I hope mine would be the same way.

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Most reasonable employers understand this stuff. It's just part of doing business.

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One more thing - if you're worried about your employer, you can always ask Washington ESD directly about the charging process. But seriously, don't let this stop you from filing if you're eligible. The system exists to help people in your situation.

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You're all right. I'm going to file my claim today. Thank you everyone for explaining this so clearly!

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Good luck! The process is usually pretty straightforward once you get started.

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For anyone still reading this thread - I used that Claimyr service mentioned earlier when I had questions about my claim status. Really saved me a lot of time trying to get through to Washington ESD on my own. The phone system there is just brutal sometimes.

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How long does it usually take them to get you connected?

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In my experience, way faster than trying to call yourself. Plus you don't have to sit there listening to hold music.

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Just wanted to add - the Washington ESD website has a section for employers that explains all the tax stuff if anyone wants to read more about it. But the key point everyone made here is right: don't feel bad about filing for benefits you're entitled to.

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Thanks! I'll check that out after I file my claim.

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The employer section of their website is actually pretty informative for understanding the whole process.

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I work in HR and deal with unemployment claims regularly. Just to put your mind completely at ease - when someone files for unemployment, we get a notice from Washington ESD asking us to confirm the separation details (dates, reason, wages, etc.). That's it. We don't get a bill, we don't write a check, and honestly most of the time it's just routine paperwork for us. The tax implications everyone mentioned are real but very gradual - we're talking about small rate adjustments that happen annually, not immediate financial hits. Please don't let concern for your former employer prevent you from accessing benefits you've earned. File your claim!

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