When is unemployment denied by Washington ESD - got rejected need help
My unemployment claim just got denied by Washington ESD and I'm completely confused about why. I worked for 18 months at a retail store before getting let go due to store closure. I thought this would be straightforward but they sent me a determination letter saying I don't qualify. The letter mentions something about 'voluntary quit' but I was literally laid off when they shut down the location. Has anyone else dealt with Washington ESD getting the facts wrong on their initial determination? I really need to understand when unemployment gets denied because this doesn't make sense to me.
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Luca Russo
Washington ESD denies claims for several main reasons: voluntary quit without good cause, fired for misconduct, not meeting work/wage requirements, or not being able and available for work. Since you mentioned store closure, this sounds like a paperwork error on their end. Did you check what reason code they used in your determination letter?
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NebulaNinja
•The letter says 'voluntary separation' but I never quit! The whole store closed down and everyone got laid off. How do I prove this to them?
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Luca Russo
•You'll need to file an appeal within 30 days and provide documentation of the layoff - company notices, your final paycheck stub showing layoff, anything that proves involuntary separation.
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Nia Wilson
This happened to my friend too - Washington ESD initially denied her claim because her employer reported it wrong. The company told ESD she quit when she was actually fired. She had to appeal and it took forever to get through to someone to fix it.
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NebulaNinja
•How long did the appeal take for your friend? I'm worried about waiting months without any income.
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Nia Wilson
•It was like 6 weeks but that was during COVID when everything was backed up. Might be faster now but still frustrating.
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Mateo Sanchez
The most common denial reasons I've seen are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause, 2) Fired for misconduct/willful violations, 3) Insufficient work history or wages, 4) Not able/available for work, 5) Refusing suitable work offers. Your situation sounds like employer misreporting. You need to get documentation ASAP and file that appeal. Don't wait because the 30-day deadline is strict.
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NebulaNinja
•I have my termination letter that says 'layoff due to store closure' - would that be enough documentation for the appeal?
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Mateo Sanchez
•That's perfect evidence! Make sure to include copies of everything in your appeal. The adjudicator will review all the evidence and make a new determination.
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Aisha Mahmood
I was getting nowhere trying to call Washington ESD about my denied claim until someone told me about Claimyr. It's a service that helps you actually get through to ESD agents on the phone. I used it and finally got to speak with someone who could look at my case properly. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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NebulaNinja
•How much does that cost? I'm already tight on money since my claim got denied.
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Aisha Mahmood
•It's worth checking out their site for details. For me it was way better than spending hours calling and never getting through. Plus I got my issue resolved way faster.
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Ethan Clark
•I used Claimyr too when I couldn't reach anyone about my adjudication. Definitely helped me get through the phone maze at Washington ESD.
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AstroAce
Washington ESD also denies claims if you don't meet the base period wage requirements. You need to have earned at least $3,800 in your base period and meet other wage criteria. But your issue sounds like employer misreporting rather than wage problems.
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NebulaNinja
•I definitely made way more than $3,800 - I was working full time for 18 months. This is clearly a mistake on their part.
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AstroAce
•Then focus on getting that employer separation issue corrected through the appeal process. The wage requirements aren't your problem here.
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Yuki Kobayashi
ugh this is so typical of Washington ESD to mess up the basic facts. I swear they just randomly deny claims sometimes. File your appeal ASAP and don't let them push you around!
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NebulaNinja
•I'm definitely filing the appeal today. Just frustrated that I have to prove something that should be obvious from the paperwork.
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Yuki Kobayashi
•Yeah it's ridiculous but stick with it. Once you get the right person to look at your case it should get fixed.
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Carmen Vega
They can also deny if you're not actively looking for work or if you turn down suitable job offers. But since you just got the initial determination, that's probably not the issue yet.
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NebulaNinja
•I haven't even started the job search requirements yet since my claim was denied right away. This is all about the separation reason.
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Luca Russo
Just to add - make sure when you file your appeal that you request a hearing if you want to present your case in person. Sometimes the written appeal alone isn't enough to overturn a determination, especially when it's a dispute about the facts of your separation.
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NebulaNinja
•Should I request the hearing right away or wait to see what happens with the written appeal first?
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Luca Russo
•You can request it when you file your appeal. It doesn't hurt to ask for it as an option, and you can always cancel if the written appeal resolves things.
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Andre Rousseau
I got denied once because my employer lied and said I was fired for attendance when I was actually laid off. Had to get HR documentation and it was a whole mess. Companies sometimes report wrong info to avoid paying into the UI system.
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NebulaNinja
•That's probably what happened here. The store closed but maybe corporate reported it wrong to save money on their unemployment insurance rates.
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Andre Rousseau
•Exactly! That's why you need solid documentation. Don't let them get away with it.
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Zoe Stavros
also check if you can get a letter from your manager or coworkers confirming the layoff situation. Sometimes extra witnesses help with appeals
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NebulaNinja
•Good idea! I'm still in touch with my old supervisor who might be willing to write something.
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Mateo Sanchez
One more thing - while you're waiting for the appeal, you should still file your weekly claims. If you win the appeal, you'll get backpay for all the weeks you were eligible but didn't receive benefits. Don't skip filing just because you're appealing.
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NebulaNinja
•I can still file weekly claims even though my initial claim was denied? I thought I had to wait for the appeal decision.
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Mateo Sanchez
•Yes, keep filing! The system will hold those claims in pending status until the appeal is resolved. If you win, you'll get paid for all of them.
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Jamal Harris
•This is really important advice. I made the mistake of not filing weekly claims during my appeal and lost out on benefits even after I won.
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GalaxyGlider
Washington ESD denials are often about misconduct too - like if you were fired for violating company policy, attendance issues, or other work-related problems. But store closure is definitely not misconduct so your appeal should be successful.
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NebulaNinja
•Yeah this definitely wasn't misconduct. The whole location shut down and all 20+ employees got laid off the same day.
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Mei Wong
Make sure you understand the timeline. You have 30 days from the date on the determination letter to file your appeal, not 30 days from when you received it. Don't wait!
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NebulaNinja
•The determination is dated 3 days ago so I have plenty of time. Filing the appeal today for sure.
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Liam Sullivan
I've heard that having a lawyer help with unemployment appeals can make a big difference, especially for complicated cases. Might be worth looking into if the appeal doesn't work out.
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NebulaNinja
•Hopefully it won't come to that but good to know it's an option. This should be straightforward once they see the layoff documentation.
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Luca Russo
•For a simple employer misreporting issue like this, a lawyer probably isn't necessary. The documentation should speak for itself.
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Amara Okafor
Sometimes Washington ESD denies claims if they think you're not genuinely looking for work or able to work. But again, that's not your issue here - this is clearly about the separation reason being wrong.
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NebulaNinja
•Right, I'm definitely able and available for work. Just need to get this employer separation issue sorted out first.
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Aisha Mahmood
Update on using Claimyr - I actually got through to Washington ESD on my first try with their service. The agent was able to look at my case immediately and explain exactly what was wrong with my claim. Way better than the endless busy signals I was getting before.
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Giovanni Colombo
•That sounds too good to be true but I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point. Washington ESD phone system is impossible.
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Aisha Mahmood
•I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Check out their demo video to see how it works - https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
They also deny claims if you don't have enough work history in the base period or if your wages don't meet the requirements. But 18 months of full-time work should definitely qualify you.
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NebulaNinja
•Yeah I'm not worried about the work history or wage requirements. This is purely about them thinking I quit when I was laid off.
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StarStrider
good luck with your appeal! document everything and don't give up. Washington ESD makes mistakes all the time but they do fix them if you push back with evidence
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NebulaNinja
•Thanks for the encouragement! I have all the paperwork ready to go for the appeal.
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Dylan Campbell
One last tip - when you file your appeal, be very specific about what happened and include copies of all relevant documents. The more evidence you provide upfront, the faster they can process your appeal.
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NebulaNinja
•Will do! I have the termination letter, final pay stub, and I'm going to get a statement from my supervisor too.
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Dylan Campbell
•Perfect! That should be more than enough to overturn the denial. Store closure is pretty black and white - not voluntary separation.
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Sofia Torres
Also remember that even if your appeal is successful, it might take a few weeks to process and get your first payment. Budget accordingly while you wait for the system to catch up.
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NebulaNinja
•Good point. I'll have to make my savings stretch a bit longer but at least I'll get backpay for the weeks I was wrongfully denied.
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