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Aisha Mohammed

Washington ESD denied my claim - reasons you can't get unemployment benefits?

Got my determination letter yesterday and Washington ESD denied my unemployment claim. I'm honestly confused about what disqualifies you from getting benefits. I worked at a retail store for 8 months before getting let go, thought I'd qualify automatically. The letter mentions something about 'voluntary quit' but I was definitely fired for attendance issues. Can someone explain the main reasons Washington ESD will deny your claim? I need to know if I should appeal this or if I'm just out of luck.

There are several common reasons Washington ESD denies unemployment claims. Most frequent ones are: voluntary quit without good cause, fired for misconduct, not earning enough wages in your base period, not actively seeking work, or not being able and available for work. If you were fired for attendance, they might have classified it as misconduct depending on the circumstances.

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The attendance thing is tricky because I had some medical appointments that conflicted with my schedule. Does that change anything?

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Medical reasons can sometimes be considered good cause. You should definitely appeal and provide documentation of your medical situation.

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I had my claim denied initially too for similar reasons. The appeal process is worth it if you have any documentation. Washington ESD often makes mistakes on initial determinations.

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How long did your appeal take? I'm already behind on rent and can't afford to wait months.

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Mine took about 6 weeks total, but I had to get through to an actual person at Washington ESD to check on it. That was the hardest part honestly.

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Yeah it's legitimate. They basically handle the calling and waiting for you so you can actually speak with a Washington ESD representative instead of getting busy signals all day.

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The misconduct thing is really subjective with Washington ESD. I've seen people get denied for tardiness and others get approved even after being fired for similar issues. It often comes down to how well you can document your side of the story in the appeal.

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That's encouraging I guess. I do have some text messages from my supervisor about the scheduling conflicts.

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Those text messages could be crucial evidence. Make sure to include everything in your appeal paperwork.

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ugh the whole system is so frustrating!!! i got denied twice before finally getting approved. they said i didn't make enough money but i worked the whole year basically. turns out they were looking at the wrong quarters or something

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The base period calculation trips up a lot of people. Washington ESD looks at specific quarters and if your wages fell in the wrong timeframe, it can affect eligibility.

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exactly! nobody explains that stuff when you file. had to figure it out myself

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Another common reason for denial is if you're not actively seeking work or not able and available. Washington ESD requires you to be ready to work immediately and actively looking for jobs. Some people get tripped up by this requirement.

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I am definitely looking for work and available. That shouldn't be an issue for me.

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Good, that's one less thing to worry about. Focus on the misconduct angle for your appeal then.

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I work in HR and see this stuff all the time. Employers often frame attendance issues as misconduct to avoid having their unemployment taxes go up. Doesn't mean Washington ESD will always agree with their version of events though.

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That makes sense. My old boss was pretty vindictive about the whole thing when I got fired.

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Document everything you can remember about the circumstances. Employer bias is real and appeals judges see it all the time.

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This is spot on. I've seen employers exaggerate minor issues to avoid paying into the unemployment system.

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The wage requirement catches people off guard too. You need to have earned a certain amount in your base period AND have wages in at least two quarters. If you just started working recently, you might not meet the financial requirements.

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I worked 8 months so that should be enough right? Made about $15,000 total.

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That sounds like it should meet the wage requirements, so your issue is probably the misconduct determination.

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Don't give up on the appeal process. I know it seems overwhelming but Washington ESD overturns a decent percentage of their initial denials. The key is presenting your case clearly and having documentation.

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Thanks for the encouragement. I'm going to gather all my documentation this weekend and file the appeal.

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Sometimes people get denied because they didn't report previous employment correctly or left out information on their application. Washington ESD cross-references everything with employer records.

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I was pretty careful filling out the application but I'll double check everything when I file my appeal.

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Good idea. Any discrepancies can trigger a denial even if they're minor mistakes.

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Had a friend get denied because she was going to school full time. Washington ESD considers that not being available for work. There are exceptions but you have to specifically apply for them.

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Not an issue for me, I'm not in school. Just looking for work.

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Good, that's one less complication for your appeal.

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also if you quit to move or follow a spouse they sometimes deny you initially but there are exceptions for that too. the whole system is confusing as hell

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Right, there are good cause exceptions for voluntary quits but you have to know how to argue for them.

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wish they made it clearer what counts as good cause. seems like you have to be a lawyer to figure it out

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The key thing to remember is that being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you unless it was for misconduct. Regular performance issues or layoffs usually qualify for benefits. Misconduct has to be willful violation of company policy.

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This is helpful. My attendance issues were mostly due to medical appointments, not just skipping work.

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That distinction could be important for your appeal. Medical reasons often qualify as good cause.

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I got denied initially because my employer disputed my claim and said I was fired for theft. Totally false but Washington ESD sided with them at first. Had to go through a whole hearing process to get it overturned.

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How did you prove they were lying? That sounds really stressful.

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Had to get witness statements from coworkers and show that their story didn't add up. Took months but I eventually won.

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Another reason for denial is if you're receiving other benefits that affect eligibility, like workers compensation or certain pensions. Washington ESD has to coordinate with other benefit programs.

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Not getting any other benefits, so that's not my issue.

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Good, that simplifies things for your appeal.

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Some people get denied for not being a US citizen or not having work authorization. Washington ESD requires you to be legally authorized to work in the US.

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I'm a citizen so that's not an issue either.

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Perfect, one less thing to worry about in your appeal.

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honestly the whole unemployment system feels designed to deny as many people as possible initially. like they hope you'll just give up and not appeal

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There's definitely truth to that. The appeal process exists for a reason though.

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yeah but it shouldn't be this hard to get benefits you earned through working

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If you worked in multiple states or for federal government, that can sometimes complicate your claim and lead to initial denials while they sort out which state should handle your benefits.

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Only worked in Washington state, so that shouldn't be a factor.

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Good, interstate claims can be a nightmare to sort out.

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Based on everything you've shared, it sounds like your best bet is to appeal and focus on the medical reason for your attendance issues. Document everything and consider getting a statement from your doctor if possible.

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That's a great idea about the doctor's statement. I'll ask at my next appointment.

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Medical documentation can be really powerful in unemployment appeals. Good luck with your case.

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Update us on how your appeal goes! It helps other people in similar situations to hear about real experiences with the process.

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Will do! Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. Feeling much more confident about appealing now.

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You've got this! The appeal process can be intimidating but you have good reasons to fight the denial.

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