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Malik Thomas

Washington ESD denied my claim - what makes you not eligible for unemployment?

Just got a disqualification letter from Washington ESD and I'm trying to understand what went wrong. I was laid off from my retail job in December but they're saying I'm not eligible. The letter mentions something about 'voluntary quit' but I was definitely laid off due to low sales. I worked there for 8 months and thought I had enough work history. Can someone explain what actually makes you ineligible for unemployment benefits? I'm so confused right now and really need this money to pay rent.

There are several reasons Washington ESD can deny your claim. The main ones are: you quit voluntarily without good cause, you were fired for misconduct, you don't have enough work history (need wages in at least 2 quarters), you're not able and available to work, or you're not actively searching for jobs. Since you mentioned 'voluntary quit' in their letter, they might have incorrect information about how your employment ended.

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That's exactly what I'm thinking! I definitely didn't quit - they laid me off along with 3 other people. Should I appeal this decision?

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Yes, absolutely appeal if you were laid off. You have 30 days from the date on the letter to file an appeal. Make sure you have documentation showing it was a layoff, not a quit.

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ugh same thing happened to my sister last year. washington esd somehow got it in their system that she quit when she was actually terminated. took forever to get it sorted out

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How did she get it fixed? I'm worried about how long this will take.

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she had to appeal and provide like a termination letter from her employer. took about 6 weeks total but she got backpay for everything

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Here's what I learned when I had to help my nephew with his Washington ESD issues - you can be disqualified for these main reasons: 1) Insufficient work history (need wages in 2+ quarters in your base period), 2) Voluntary quit without good cause connected to work, 3) Discharged for misconduct, 4) Not able/available for work, 5) Refusing suitable work offers, 6) Not meeting job search requirements. For getting through to Washington ESD about appeals, I actually found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped us get connected to an actual agent instead of waiting on hold forever. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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Thank you for the detailed list! I definitely meet the work requirements and I was laid off, so this has to be a mistake. I'll check out that Claimyr thing too.

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Wait, what's Claimyr? Is that legit or some kind of scam?

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It's legitimate - they just help you get through to Washington ESD faster instead of calling over and over. My nephew was stuck in adjudication for weeks and couldn't reach anyone.

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The work history thing is tricky too. You need to have earned wages in at least 2 quarters of your base period, which is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed. With only 8 months of work, depending on when you started, you might not meet the requirements even if the layoff issue gets resolved.

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I started in April 2024 and was laid off in December 2024. Does that count as enough quarters?

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You should be fine then - you worked in Q2, Q3, and Q4 of 2024, so you definitely have wages in multiple quarters.

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Yeah, that's plenty of work history. This is definitely about the quit vs layoff issue.

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WASHINGTON ESD IS THE WORST. They mess up everything and then make YOU prove they're wrong. I've been fighting them for months over a similar issue.

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What's your situation? Maybe we can help each other figure this out.

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They said I was fired for cause but it was actually a reduction in force. My whole department got eliminated but somehow I'm the only one who got denied benefits.

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When you file your appeal, make sure to include any documentation you have about the layoff. Even if it's just a text message from your manager or coworkers who were also laid off, that can help establish it wasn't voluntary. Washington ESD usually sides with employers initially but appeals often go in the claimant's favor when there's evidence.

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I do have the email from my manager about the layoffs! And I can probably get statements from the other people who were let go.

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Perfect! That email should be enough, but having statements from coworkers strengthens your case even more.

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just curious - did you file for any other benefits or have any other income when you filed? sometimes that can affect eligibility too

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No, just unemployment. I haven't worked anywhere else since the layoff.

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One more thing to check - look at your monetary determination letter to make sure Washington ESD has the right wage information. Sometimes employers report things incorrectly or there are data entry errors that can affect your claim.

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Where do I find that letter? I got so many documents when I first applied.

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It should be in your eServices account on the Washington ESD website. Look for 'Monetary Determination' - it shows all your wages by quarter and employer.

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This happened to my friend too and she used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. She said it was way easier than trying to call Washington ESD directly because you never get through. They got her connected to someone who could actually look at her case.

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How much does it cost? I'm already stressed about money.

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I'm not sure about the cost but she said it was worth it because she was able to get her benefits sorted out faster than if she kept trying to call on her own.

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btw make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while you're appealing. if you win the appeal you'll get backpay but only for the weeks you filed

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Really? Even though I'm disqualified right now?

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yeah, you have to keep filing to preserve your right to those weeks. it's stupid but that's how the system works

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The job search requirements can also disqualify you even if everything else is correct. You need to make at least 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records. But that usually doesn't come up until after you're approved and start getting benefits.

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I've been applying to jobs constantly since I got laid off, so that shouldn't be an issue.

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I'm still confused about this Claimyr thing. How is it different from just calling Washington ESD yourself?

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From what I understand, they handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when they get through to an agent. Saves you from sitting on hold for hours.

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I was skeptical too but honestly after spending entire days trying to reach Washington ESD with no luck, I tried it and got connected to someone within a couple hours. Way better than the alternative.

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Another thing that can make you ineligible is if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization, but that doesn't sound like your issue since you were working legally.

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Yeah, I'm a citizen and have been working here my whole life.

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sometimes washington esd mixes up information between different claims or employers. definitely worth double checking that all the info on your determination is actually about YOU and not someone else

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That's a terrifying thought but I'll definitely check everything carefully.

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The good news is that if it really was a layoff like you said, the appeal should go in your favor. Washington ESD makes a lot of initial mistakes but the appeals process usually catches them. Just make sure you file within the 30-day deadline!

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Thank you for the encouragement! I'm going to file the appeal tomorrow and gather all my documentation.

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Good luck! Keep us posted on how it goes.

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One more reason for disqualification - if you were attending school full-time when you filed, that can make you ineligible because you're not considered available for work. But again, doesn't sound like your situation.

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Nope, not in school. Just desperately looking for work!

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I hate how confusing Washington ESD makes everything. They should have clear explanations of why you're denied instead of these vague letters that leave you guessing.

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Exactly! The letter was so confusing and didn't explain anything clearly.

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That's by design. They want to discourage people from appealing.

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Make sure when you appeal that you request a hearing if the first level appeal doesn't go your way. Sometimes it takes getting in front of an administrative law judge to get things resolved properly.

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How long does that whole process usually take?

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First level appeal usually takes 4-6 weeks. If you need a hearing, add another 6-8 weeks. But you get backpay for everything if you win.

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This thread has been super helpful. I'm dealing with a similar issue and now I know what steps to take. Thanks everyone!

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Glad it helped! We're all just trying to navigate this confusing system together.

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