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What disqualifies you for unemployment benefits in Washington - got denied and confused

Just got my determination letter from Washington ESD and they denied my unemployment claim. The letter mentions several reasons but honestly the language is confusing and I don't understand what exactly disqualified me. I worked at a retail store for 8 months before getting let go and thought I'd be eligible. Can someone explain what disqualifies you for unemployment in plain English? I'm trying to figure out if I should appeal this decision or if there's no point.

There are several common reasons Washington ESD disqualifies people. Most frequent ones are: quit without good cause, fired for misconduct, not available for work, not actively seeking work, or didn't earn enough wages in your base period. What specific reason did they list on your determination letter?

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It says something about 'separation from employment' but I was laid off, not fired. This is so confusing.

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Even layoffs get reviewed. Did you have any attendance issues or policy violations before being let go? Sometimes what employers report as layoffs actually get classified differently by Washington ESD.

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i got disqualified last year because they said i wasnt looking for work hard enough even though i was applying to jobs every day. the job search requirements are really strict

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Wait, there are specific job search requirements? I haven't been tracking my applications in any official way.

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yeah you have to log all your job search activities in WorkSourceWA and meet minimum requirements each week

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I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my own disqualification issue but can never get through on the phone. The wait times are insane and I keep getting disconnected. Found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com that actually got me connected to an agent in minutes. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Game changer for getting real answers about disqualification reasons.

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Is that legit? I've been calling for 3 weeks straight with no luck.

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Totally legit. They basically call for you and get you connected to actual Washington ESD staff. Saved me hours of frustration.

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Sounds too good to be true but I'm desperate at this point. Anything is better than this endless phone tag with Washington ESD.

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The most common disqualifications I see are: 1) Voluntary quit without good cause 2) Discharged for misconduct 3) Insufficient wage credits in base period 4) Not available for work 5) Refusing suitable work 6) Not registering with WorkSourceWA. Each has different appeal processes and requirements.

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This is super helpful! I think mine might be the wage credits issue. I only worked 8 months at my last job.

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Check your base period carefully. Washington ESD looks at the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed. If you didn't earn enough in that specific timeframe, you might be disqualified even if you worked recently.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED! They'll find any excuse to deny benefits. I got disqualified because I missed ONE weekly claim filing and they said I abandoned my claim. ONE WEEK!!! Then spent months trying to get it reinstated.

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Oh no, I think I might have missed a week too. Is that really grounds for disqualification?

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Missing weekly claims can cause issues but usually they'll let you restart your claim. It depends on the circumstances and how long you were inactive.

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THEY DONT CARE ABOUT CIRCUMSTANCES! Washington ESD just wants to save money by denying as many people as possible.

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I'm so confused about the misconduct thing. What exactly counts as misconduct? I was always on time and did my job well but got fired for 'attitude issues' which seems really subjective.

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Misconduct for unemployment purposes is pretty specific. It has to be willful violation of company rules or standards. 'Attitude issues' alone usually isn't enough unless it involved insubordination or harassment.

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That's what I thought! My supervisor just didn't like me but I never broke any actual rules. Definitely appealing this decision.

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good luck with appeal process took me 6 months to get hearing scheduled and by then i already found new job so didnt even matter anymore

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6 months?! That's ridiculous. How are people supposed to survive that long without income?

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exactly why the system is broken. they hope you give up or find work before they have to pay you

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For anyone dealing with disqualifications, definitely request a hearing if you disagree with the decision. You have 30 days from the date on your determination letter. The appeals process exists for a reason and many initial disqualifications do get overturned when people present their case properly.

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What kind of evidence should I gather for an appeal? I don't have much documentation from my job.

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Get copies of your personnel file, any written warnings or performance reviews, witness statements if applicable, and documentation of the circumstances around your job separation. The more evidence the better.

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Also remember that even if you're disqualified initially, you might still be eligible for benefits later in your benefit year. Some disqualifications are temporary (like voluntary quit) while others are permanent (like fraud). Worth getting clarification from Washington ESD about your specific situation.

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wait there are different types of disqualifications? mine just said disqualified i thought that was it

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Yeah, some are just for a certain number of weeks, others until you meet certain conditions like earning wages at a new job. The determination letter should specify which type you have.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and finally got through to Washington ESD. The agent explained that my disqualification was actually a mistake in their system - they had wrong information about why I left my job. Got it corrected same day. Sometimes it really is just errors on their end.

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That gives me hope! Maybe mine is a mistake too. I'm definitely going to try calling them.

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How much does that Claimyr thing cost? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

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Honestly don't remember the exact cost but it was way cheaper than the stress and lost time from trying to call myself for weeks. Worth it to get actual answers.

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Something I learned the hard way - if you're disqualified for not being available for work, you need to show you're genuinely seeking employment and available for full-time work. Part-time availability or being too picky about jobs can disqualify you even if everything else checks out.

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I did put restrictions on my job search because I need certain hours due to childcare. Could that be why I got denied?

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Possibly. Washington ESD wants to see you're available for suitable work, which usually means full-time during normal business hours. Childcare issues can sometimes qualify as good cause restrictions though.

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Quick clarification for everyone - refusing suitable work doesn't just mean turning down job offers. It can also include not applying to jobs you're qualified for, not showing up to interviews, or setting unreasonable wage/location requirements compared to your previous work history.

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DEFINE SUITABLE! They wanted me to take a job paying half what I made before. How is that suitable?

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Generally suitable work means jobs that pay at least 70% of your previous wage for the first few weeks, then gradually lower thresholds. But it's complex and depends on local job market conditions.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to register with WorkSourceWA within 3 weeks of filing and complete required reemployment services. Skipping these activities will get you disqualified even if everything else is fine.

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I never got any information about WorkSourceWA registration. Where was I supposed to learn about this?

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It should have been in your initial filing confirmation or handbook. Sometimes people miss it because there's so much information. Check your online account for any required activities.

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also if you worked for family business or as independent contractor that can disqualify you too. learned that one the hard way when i tried to claim benefits after my dad's business went under

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Oh wow, I never thought about that. My job was regular W-2 employment though so that shouldn't be an issue.

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yeah w2 should be fine. its the 1099 contractors and family employees that have problems

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Been through this process twice now. Key thing is don't give up if you believe you were wrongly disqualified. The appeals process works but you have to be persistent and provide good documentation. Also keep filing your weekly claims even during the appeal - if you win, you can get back pay for those weeks.

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Wait, I should keep filing weekly claims even though I was disqualified? That seems weird.

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Yes! If your appeal is successful, you'll only get paid for weeks you continued to file claims. It's like holding your place in line while the appeal is processed.

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This is correct. Always continue filing weekly claims during appeals. You won't receive payments while disqualified, but if the disqualification is overturned, those claims become payable.

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One more thing to check - make sure Washington ESD has accurate information about your job separation. Employers sometimes report things incorrectly or incompletely, which leads to wrong disqualification decisions. Getting the facts straight is often the key to successful appeals.

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How do I find out what my employer reported? Is that something I can request?

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You should be able to get this information from Washington ESD. It might be in your determination letter, or you can request the employer's response to your claim. This is where calling through Claimyr really helped me - got all the details explained clearly.

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Update: I just tried that Claimyr service and actually got connected to someone at Washington ESD! Turns out my disqualification was because they classified my termination as voluntary quit instead of layoff. The agent is helping me get it corrected. This is the first real progress I've made in weeks.

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That's exactly what I'm dealing with! Going to try Claimyr right now. Thanks for the update!

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See? Sometimes it really is just wrong information in their system. Glad you got it sorted out.

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Quick PSA - fraud disqualifications are the most serious. If Washington ESD thinks you intentionally provided false information or concealed facts, you could be permanently barred from benefits and have to pay penalties. Always be completely honest on your application and weekly claims.

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They accused me of fraud because I forgot to report 4 hours of part-time work one week. FOUR HOURS! Acting like I'm some master criminal.

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Usually honest mistakes aren't treated as fraud, especially for small amounts. Did you correct it as soon as you realized the error? That makes a big difference in how they handle it.

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my cousin got disqualified because she was going to school full time and washington esd said she wasnt available for work. didnt know that was even a thing

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Full-time students can sometimes still qualify if they meet certain criteria about availability for work. It's not an automatic disqualification but adds complications to the claim.

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yeah she ended up appealing and won because she was doing online classes and could work any schedule. took forever though

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I'm going to gather my documentation and file an appeal. Also going to try that Claimyr service to get more details about what exactly my employer reported. This thread has been way more helpful than anything I found on the Washington ESD website.

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Good luck with your appeal! Remember you have 30 days from the determination date, so don't wait too long.

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Hope it works out for you. Getting the right information is half the battle with these disqualification issues.

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