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Washington ESD denied my claim - what reasons can you be denied unemployment?

My unemployment claim just got denied by Washington ESD and I'm trying to understand what went wrong. I thought I had a solid case since I was laid off from my restaurant job last month due to slow business. The denial letter mentions something about 'voluntary quit' but that's not what happened at all. I'm confused about what reasons Washington ESD uses to deny claims. Can someone explain the common reasons people get denied? I need to know if I should appeal or if there's something I'm missing about my situation.

There are several main reasons Washington ESD denies unemployment claims. The most common ones are: 1) Misconduct - if you were fired for breaking workplace rules or poor performance 2) Voluntary quit - if they think you left on your own 3) Not actively seeking work - failing job search requirements 4) Not available for work - like if you're in school full-time 5) Not earning enough in your base period to qualify. Since you mentioned voluntary quit, they might have gotten misinformation from your employer about the circumstances of your separation.

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That's helpful, thank you. The voluntary quit thing is really bothering me because I definitely didn't quit. My manager told me they had to let me go because business was down. Should I contact my old workplace to get documentation?

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Yes, absolutely get any documentation you can. Layoff notices, emails, text messages, anything that shows you were let go due to lack of work rather than quitting voluntarily.

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I had this exact same problem with Washington ESD last year! They initially denied my claim saying I quit voluntarily when I was actually laid off from my construction job. The issue was that my employer reported it wrong on their end. I had to appeal the decision and provide evidence that I was laid off, not quit.

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How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about my bills piling up while this gets sorted out.

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Other reasons for denial include not meeting the work history requirements. You need to have worked enough quarters and earned a minimum amount during your base period. Also, if you're not a US citizen or authorized to work, that's an automatic denial.

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What's the minimum amount you need to earn? I worked part-time for most of last year.

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You need at least $1,500 in your highest quarter during your base period, plus total earnings of at least 1.5 times your highest quarter amount. So if you earned $2,000 in your best quarter, you'd need at least $3,000 total.

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The whole system is rigged against workers. They'll find any excuse to deny claims and make you jump through hoops. I've seen people get denied for the stupidest reasons - like missing one job contact in their weekly claim or not answering their phone when Washington ESD called.

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That's so frustrating. I'm scared they'll find some tiny mistake I made and use it against me.

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Just document everything and be prepared to fight. The system assumes you're lying until you prove otherwise.

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Don't forget about the able and available requirement. If you're not physically able to work or not available for full-time work, they'll deny you. This includes things like being hospitalized, caring for a sick family member, or only being available for very limited hours.

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I'm definitely able and available for work. I've been applying to jobs every day since I got laid off.

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Good, make sure you're keeping a detailed job search log. Washington ESD requires 3 job contacts per week and they can audit your search activities at any time.

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Sometimes they deny claims if there's an issue with your identity verification. I had a friend who got denied because Washington ESD couldn't verify his identity through their online system, even though he provided all the required documents.

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That happened to my sister too. She had to wait weeks just to get someone on the phone to resolve it.

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Yeah, getting through to Washington ESD is nearly impossible. The phone lines are always busy and they hang up on you constantly.

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Drug testing failures can also result in denial, though that's not as common in Washington as other states. And if you're receiving other benefits like workers comp or pension payments, that might affect your eligibility.

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I didn't know about the pension thing. My dad gets a small pension from his old job and was wondering about applying for unemployment.

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Pension income can reduce your weekly benefit amount or potentially disqualify you depending on the circumstances. He should check with Washington ESD directly.

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OP, definitely appeal if you believe the denial was wrong. The appeal deadline is usually 30 days from the date on your determination letter, so don't wait too long. Gather all your evidence and submit it with your appeal.

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I'm definitely going to appeal. Do I need to keep filing weekly claims while the appeal is processing?

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Yes, you absolutely must continue filing your weekly claims even during the appeal process. If you win your appeal and stop filing, you won't get back pay for the weeks you didn't file.

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Another reason for denial is if you refuse suitable work. If Washington ESD or WorkSource refers you to a job and you turn it down without good cause, they can deny your claim or cut off your benefits.

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What counts as 'suitable work'? Can they make you take any job even if it pays way less than your previous job?

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Generally, suitable work considers your skills, experience, and prior wages. In the first few weeks, you can be more selective, but after that, you may need to accept work that pays less than your previous job.

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School attendance can also affect your claim. If you're enrolled in school full-time, Washington ESD might determine you're not available for work. There are exceptions for approved training programs though.

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I'm taking some online courses at night. Should I be worried about that affecting my benefits?

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Part-time or evening classes usually aren't a problem as long as they don't interfere with your availability for work during normal business hours.

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Is that service legit? I'm desperate to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my adjudication issue.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements. Even if you qualify for benefits, you can get denied or cut off if you don't meet the weekly job search requirements. You need to make 3 job contacts per week and keep detailed records.

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I've been doing way more than 3 contacts per week. Is there a maximum they expect?

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There's no maximum, but quality matters more than quantity. Make sure you're applying for jobs you're actually qualified for and keeping good records of each contact.

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Seasonal workers sometimes get denied because Washington ESD thinks they have reasonable assurance of returning to work. This happens a lot with school employees and some construction workers.

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That's what happened to my friend who works for the school district. Even though she wasn't guaranteed to come back, they denied her summer claim.

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Yeah, the reasonable assurance rule is tricky. Sometimes you can appeal if the assurance isn't actually reasonable or if circumstances change.

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Immigration status issues can also cause denials. You need to be authorized to work in the US, and sometimes there are complications with work permits or visa status that affect eligibility.

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My work permit renewed but there was a gap between the old one expiring and new one starting. Wonder if that affected my claim.

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That could definitely cause issues. Any gap in work authorization can result in benefit suspension or denial for that period.

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OP, based on what you described, it sounds like your employer might have reported the separation incorrectly to Washington ESD. This happens more often than you'd think. Employers sometimes report layoffs as voluntary quits by mistake, or they may be trying to avoid having their unemployment tax rate increased.

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That makes sense. My old manager seemed pretty frazzled when she was letting people go. She might have filled out the forms wrong.

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Exactly. When you appeal, focus on providing evidence of the layoff - any emails, texts, or witnesses who can confirm you were laid off due to lack of work rather than quitting voluntarily.

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The good news is that if this really was just an employer reporting error, your appeal should be successful. Washington ESD will review the evidence and make a new determination. Just make sure you have everything documented and submit your appeal before the deadline.

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Thanks everyone for all the help. I feel much more confident about appealing now that I understand what might have gone wrong.

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Good luck with your appeal! Keep us updated on how it goes.

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