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Oliver Schulz

What reasons can you quit a job and still get unemployment in Washington ESD?

I'm in a really toxic work environment and my boss has been cutting my hours down to almost nothing, but I'm scared to quit because I need unemployment benefits. What are the valid reasons Washington ESD will approve for quitting and still getting UI? I've heard about 'good cause' but don't know what that actually means or how to prove it. Anyone know the specific rules?

Washington ESD recognizes several 'good cause' reasons for quitting. The main ones are: unsafe working conditions, harassment/discrimination, significant changes to job duties or pay, domestic violence situations, and medical reasons. You need documentation though - can't just say your boss was mean.

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What kind of documentation do they want? I have some texts from my supervisor but not sure if that's enough.

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Save everything - emails, texts, witness statements, medical records if applicable. The more paper trail you have, the better your chances in adjudication.

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Yes, Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits in certain quit situations. The key is proving you had 'good cause' for leaving. This includes workplace harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, discrimination, or domestic violence situations. You'll need to document everything thoroughly before you quit.

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Thank you! Do you know what kind of documentation I need to collect? I've been keeping emails but wasn't sure if that's enough.

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Emails are great! Also keep any written complaints you filed, witness statements, photos of unsafe conditions, medical records if applicable, and HR communications. The more evidence the better for your adjudication.

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Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for 'good cause' but it has to be work-related and substantial. Some qualifying reasons include: unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties or pay, harassment or discrimination, or if your employer violated labor laws. You'll need to document everything and prove the situation was unreasonable.

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Thanks! Do you know if verbal harassment from a supervisor counts? I don't have much written documentation but there have been witnesses.

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Yes, workplace harassment can qualify but you'll need to show you tried to resolve it through proper channels first. Keep detailed records of incidents, dates, witnesses, and any reports you made to HR or management.

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I quit my job last year due to sexual harassment and got approved for unemployment. It took about 6 weeks for adjudication but Washington ESD approved my claim. The key was having detailed records of incidents and reporting it to HR first.

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That's encouraging to hear! Did you have to go through a phone interview during the adjudication process?

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Yes, they called me for a fact-finding interview. Just be honest and stick to the facts you documented. They also interviewed my former employer.

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I quit my job last year due to harassment and got approved for benefits, but it took forever. Had to go through adjudication and provide statements from coworkers. Worth it in the end but be prepared for a long wait.

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How long did the adjudication take? I can't afford to wait months without income.

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Mine took about 6 weeks, but I've heard some take longer depending on how complex the case is.

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Yes, Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for 'good cause.' The key is proving your reason meets their criteria. Hostile work environment, harassment, unsafe conditions, or significant changes to your job duties/pay can qualify. You'll need solid documentation though - emails, witness statements, HR complaints, etc. The burden of proof is on you to show you had no reasonable alternative but to quit.

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Thank you! I have been documenting everything - screenshots of abusive messages, dates/times of incidents. Should I file a complaint with HR first before quitting?

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Absolutely file with HR first if possible. Washington ESD wants to see you tried to resolve the issue through proper channels before quitting. It strengthens your case significantly.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask about your specific situation, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you actually reach an agent by phone. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work or is it just another scam?

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It's legit - I used it when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Finally got to talk to someone who could explain exactly what documents I needed.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Washington ESD approved my claim after I quit due to harassment. The adjudication process took about 6 weeks though, and I had to provide tons of documentation. Make sure you have everything organized - incident reports, emails, any communication with management about the issues.

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Six weeks is a long time to wait! Did you have to do a phone interview during the adjudication process?

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Yes, I had to do a fact-finding interview where they asked detailed questions about each incident. Be prepared to explain your timeline clearly and have your documentation ready.

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Just went through this myself. I had to quit because my employer kept changing my schedule with no notice and it was affecting my childcare. Washington ESD approved it as constructive dismissal. The adjudication process was stressful but having good documentation helped. If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD for questions, I found Claimyr really helpful - they got me through to an actual agent at claimyr.com. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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How long did your adjudication take? I'm worried about how I'll pay bills while waiting for a decision.

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Mine took about 4 weeks. You should file your claim immediately after quitting even if you think it might be denied. The sooner you file, the sooner the process starts.

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I quit my job last year due to unsafe conditions and got approved for UI benefits. The key is you have to show you attempted to get the employer to fix the problem first. Washington ESD will want to see that you made reasonable efforts to resolve the issue before quitting.

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What kind of documentation did you provide to Washington ESD when you filed your claim?

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I had emails to my supervisor about the safety issues, photos of the unsafe conditions, and a written complaint I filed with management. I also had witnesses who could verify the problems.

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CONSTRUCTIVE DISCHARGE is another big one that people don't know about! If your employer makes conditions so bad that any reasonable person would quit, that can qualify. Cutting your hours drastically might fall under this.

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Really? My hours went from 40 to maybe 15 per week with no explanation. Would that count?

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Possibly! Document everything - your normal schedule, the reduction, any communication about it. That's a significant change in working conditions.

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Be careful though - you need to show you tried to resolve it first. Did you talk to HR or your boss about the hour cuts?

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Just wanted to mention that if you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD during the adjudication process, I discovered claimyr.com - it's a service that helps you get connected to actual agents. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Really helped me when I was stuck waiting for weeks to talk to someone about my claim status.

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That sounds helpful! I'm definitely going to need to talk to someone once I file my claim. The phone lines are always busy when I've tried calling Washington ESD.

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How much does that service cost? Seems like you shouldn't have to pay extra just to reach your own unemployment office.

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It's worth it when you're dealing with time-sensitive issues. Way better than spending hours on hold or getting disconnected.

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MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 'GOOD CAUSE' AND 'COMPELLING FAMILY REASONS.' Washington ESD has specific definitions for each. Good cause is work-related (harassment, unsafe conditions, etc.) while compelling family reasons are personal (domestic violence, caring for sick family, etc.). Both can qualify you but they have different documentation requirements.

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This is definitely work-related harassment, so it would fall under good cause. What kind of documentation is most important for that category?

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For good cause, focus on: written complaints to HR/management, documented incidents with dates/times, witness statements, any medical documentation if the situation affected your health, and proof you tried to resolve the issue before quitting.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to discuss your specific situation, I found this service called Claimyr that helped me reach an actual agent. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Sometimes talking to a real person can help clarify whether your situation would qualify.

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Interesting, how does that work exactly? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks but can never get through.

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It basically helps you get connected to an actual Washington ESD representative instead of sitting on hold forever. Really helped me when I had questions about my claim status.

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The main categories Washington ESD recognizes for good cause quit are: workplace harassment/discrimination, unsafe working conditions, significant reduction in hours or pay, domestic violence, medical issues that make the job impossible, and transportation issues beyond your control. Each case is evaluated individually during adjudication.

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This is really helpful! My situation involves both harassment and what I consider unsafe conditions. Should I mention both in my application?

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Absolutely mention both. Provide specific examples and dates for each issue. The more comprehensive your documentation, the stronger your case will be.

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Make sure you understand the difference between 'good cause' and just being unhappy with your job. Washington ESD is pretty strict about what qualifies.

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uhh why not just get fired instead? way easier to get benefits that way lol

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That's called 'misconduct' and can disqualify you from benefits entirely. Don't do that.

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oh didn't know that. guess quitting with good cause is the safer route then

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whatever you do dont just quit without filing complaints first!! i made that mistake and got denied. you have to show you tried to resolve the issues before quitting or they'll say you should have worked it out

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Oh no! Were you able to appeal the denial? I haven't filed any formal complaints yet but I have been documenting everything.

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yeah i appealed and eventually won but it took like 3 months total. file complaints with HR or management first, then quit if they dont fix it. creates a paper trail

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Here's what Washington ESD considers good cause for voluntary separation: 1) Lack of work/significant reduction in hours, 2) Changes in working conditions, 3) Discrimination/harassment, 4) Unsafe working conditions, 5) Domestic violence, 6) Compelling family circumstances, 7) Health reasons. Each has specific requirements for documentation.

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This is super helpful! Under 'changes in working conditions' would a pay cut count too?

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Yes, significant pay reductions can qualify. Generally needs to be substantial - like 20% or more - and you need to show you didn't agree to it.

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i quit my job last month because of a hostile work environment and got denied for unemployment. now im appealing but its been a nightmare. washington esd said i didnt have enough documentation even though i had emails and stuff. maybe i should have tried harder to work with my employer first?

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Don't give up on your appeal! Sometimes the initial determination is wrong. Make sure you have everything organized for your hearing - witness statements, timeline of events, any company policies that were violated.

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thanks, my hearing is next week and im super nervous. did you have to represent yourself or can you get help?

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You can represent yourself or have someone help you. Some people use attorneys, others have union reps or advocates. The key is being prepared with your facts and documentation.

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I tried to quit for good cause and Washington ESD denied me initially. Had to appeal and it took 3 months total before I saw any money. Make sure you have SOLID documentation before you quit.

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What happened during your appeal? Did you need a lawyer?

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No lawyer needed. Just had to present my evidence clearly and have witnesses available. The hearing was over the phone and took about 30 minutes.

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Be careful though - quitting for 'good cause' is a high bar to meet. Washington ESD will investigate your claim thoroughly and may contact your former employer. If they determine you didn't have good cause, you could be disqualified from benefits entirely. Make sure you have solid documentation before you quit.

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That's what I'm worried about. How long does the investigation usually take?

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It varies but expect at least 4-6 weeks for adjudication if there's a quit issue involved. Sometimes longer if they need to gather information from multiple sources.

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I work in HR and see these cases often. Washington ESD looks for evidence that you made reasonable efforts to resolve the issues before quitting. Simply being unhappy or having conflicts with coworkers usually doesn't qualify. But genuine harassment, safety violations, or illegal activities by the employer often do qualify if properly documented.

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What's the best way to document safety violations? I'm worried about taking photos since it might be seen as suspicious.

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If safety is a concern, report it to OSHA first. Having an official OSHA complaint strengthens your case significantly. You can also document by writing detailed descriptions with dates and witnesses.

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ugh this is exactly why i hate the unemployment system. you're damned if you do damned if you dont. stay in a toxic job and ruin your mental health or quit and potentially lose benefits. its not fair!!

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I understand the frustration, but the system does try to protect against people just quitting without cause. The good cause provisions exist for legitimate situations.

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i guess but it puts all the burden on the worker to prove their case while employers can basically do whatever they want

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section on good cause reasons for quitting. Some other examples include: discrimination, significant reduction in hours/pay, unsafe working conditions, or if your employer violated labor laws. It's not just about harassment - there are lots of legitimate reasons they'll accept.

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That's good to know! Where exactly on their website is that information? I want to make sure I understand all the criteria.

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Look under the 'Eligibility' section on the Washington ESD website. They have detailed explanations of what qualifies as good cause and what documentation you need.

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My sister quit her job due to her boss making racist comments and got unemployment. She had to provide witness statements and kept a detailed log of incidents. The adjudication took forever but she was approved. Make sure you report the harassment to HR in writing before you quit.

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Did she have to pay back any benefits later? I'm always worried about overpayment issues.

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No, once Washington ESD approved her claim for good cause, she didn't have any overpayment issues. The key was having solid documentation of the harassment.

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Honestly the whole system is rigged against workers. They make it so hard to prove 'good cause' that most people just stay in terrible jobs. I've seen people get denied for obvious harassment situations just because they didn't jump through every bureaucratic hoop perfectly.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. I don't want to quit and then get stuck with no income because Washington ESD decides my documentation isn't good enough.

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I get the frustration, but the system does work if you follow the process correctly. The key is really documenting everything and showing you tried to resolve the issues before quitting.

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Another tip - when you quit, make sure you tell your employer IN WRITING exactly why you're quitting and reference the specific issues. This creates a record that Washington ESD can review during adjudication.

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Should I send it via email or actual letter?

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Email is fine as long as you keep a copy. Some people do both to be extra safe.

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Don't forget about the medical reasons option. If your job is affecting your physical or mental health, that can qualify too. You'll need doctor documentation though.

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The stress from this situation is definitely affecting my health. Would anxiety count?

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It can, but you need medical documentation showing the work environment is causing or significantly worsening your condition.

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One more thing - if you do quit for good cause, be prepared to prove you tried to resolve the issue first. Washington ESD wants to see you made reasonable efforts to fix the problem before quitting.

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What counts as 'reasonable efforts'? I've mentioned the hour cuts to my supervisor but haven't gone to HR yet.

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Document that conversation and definitely talk to HR if you have one. Shows you went through proper channels before quitting.

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Just remember that even with good cause, Washington ESD will contact your employer for their side of the story. Make sure everything you document is accurate and truthful.

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That makes sense. I definitely don't want to exaggerate anything and hurt my case.

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TIMELINE IS IMPORTANT! Some good cause reasons have time limits. Like if working conditions change, you generally need to quit within a reasonable time after the change, not months later.

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My hours were cut about 3 weeks ago. Is that still recent enough?

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That should be fine. Just don't wait too much longer if you're going to quit.

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Other qualifying reasons include: constructive discharge (employer makes conditions so bad you're forced to quit), domestic violence situations, or if you need to relocate due to a spouse's job transfer. Health issues might qualify too if work is making them worse.

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The stress is definitely affecting my health. Would that be considered work-related if I can show the job is causing it?

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Possibly, but you'd need medical documentation showing the work environment is directly causing or significantly worsening your health condition. It's not enough to just say work is stressful.

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Here's what I learned from my experience: Washington ESD considers domestic violence as good cause for quitting even if the workplace itself isn't the problem. If you need to leave due to safety concerns related to domestic violence, you can still qualify for unemployment benefits. There are special provisions for these situations.

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That's good to know. Are there any other special circumstances like that?

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Yes, if you have a medical condition that makes your job impossible to perform and your employer won't accommodate it, that can qualify too. You'd need medical documentation though.

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BE CAREFUL about quitting for 'constructive dismissal' - that's when your employer makes conditions so bad that any reasonable person would quit. It's a valid reason but you need REALLY good documentation. I tried to claim this and got denied initially because I couldn't prove the conditions were unreasonable.

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What kind of conditions would qualify as constructive dismissal? My employer has been making my work life pretty miserable.

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Things like drastically cutting your hours, demoting you without cause, changing your job duties completely, or creating a hostile work environment. But you need concrete evidence, not just feeling like they want you to quit.

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One thing to consider - if you quit for good cause, you might still have to serve a waiting period before benefits start. It's not automatic like if you were laid off. Also make sure you're actively looking for work and meeting all the other UI requirements once your claim is approved.

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How long is the waiting period usually? I need to plan my finances accordingly.

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There's typically a one-week waiting period for all claims, but sometimes there can be additional delays during adjudication. Plan for at least a month without income to be safe.

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Just want to add that if your employer contests your claim (which they probably will), you need to be prepared for that fight. They'll likely say you quit without good cause and try to make you look bad. Having solid documentation and witnesses is crucial.

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Ugh, I hadn't thought about them contesting it. My manager is definitely the type who would try to make me look bad. This is so stressful.

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Don't let that discourage you from doing what's right for your wellbeing. If you have legitimate good cause and proper documentation, you can win even if they contest it.

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If anyone needs to actually talk to Washington ESD about their specific situation, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does work. I was skeptical at first but it saved me hours of trying to get through on my own.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already broke which is why I need to quit this job.

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I don't remember the exact cost but it was worth it to finally get answers about my claim. Check their website for current pricing.

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I tried to quit for harassment and got denied benefits. Turns out I needed to file formal complaints with HR first and give my employer a chance to fix it. Washington ESD said I quit too soon without exhausting internal remedies.

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Oh no! Did you appeal the decision?

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Yeah I'm still waiting on the appeal hearing. Been 3 months now. Should have documented everything better from the start.

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This is why documentation is so crucial. You need to show a clear pattern and that you followed proper procedures.

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I used claimyr when I was dealing with a contested claim situation. Really helped me get through to someone at Washington ESD who could explain the process and what to expect. Sometimes having that human contact makes all the difference when you're stressed about the whole situation.

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I think I'm going to need all the help I can get. Did they help you understand what to expect during the appeals process?

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Yes, they were able to connect me with someone who walked me through the timeline and what documents I needed. Made the whole process way less intimidating.

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The timing of when you quit matters too. If you quit immediately after an incident, it's easier to prove good cause than if you wait weeks or months. Washington ESD wants to see that you quit as a direct result of the problematic conditions, not just because you found something better.

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So I should quit soon after documenting the issues? I was thinking of waiting to find another job first.

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If you wait too long, Washington ESD might question whether the conditions were really that bad. But don't quit impulsively either - make sure you have proper documentation first.

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Just want to add that if you do quit, make sure you understand exactly what you need to report when filing your initial claim. Being dishonest about the circumstances can lead to fraud charges. Always be truthful about why you left your job.

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Good point. Is there a specific way I should word it on the application if I do decide to quit?

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Just state the facts clearly and concisely. Don't embellish but don't undersell legitimate issues either. Let the documentation speak for itself.

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BTW if you do end up filing and need to check on your claim status or talk to someone about the adjudication process, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does work. Saved me hours of trying to get through on the phone.

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How much does something like that cost? Seems like you shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to Washington ESD.

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You're right it's frustrating that it's needed, but honestly it was worth it to actually get answers instead of wasting entire days trying to call.

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this is all so complicated... why can't they just make it simple like 'if your job sucks you can quit and get benefits' lol

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Because then everyone would quit their jobs and claim benefits. The system has to have standards to prevent abuse.

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yeah i guess that makes sense when you put it that way

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One thing that helped me was keeping a detailed log of incidents - dates, times, witnesses, what happened. Made it much easier to present my case to Washington ESD.

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Good idea! I'll start doing that right away. Better to have too much documentation than not enough.

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Also remember that if you quit for good cause, you still have to meet all the other UI requirements - job search, available for work, etc. Quitting for good cause just means you won't be disqualified for voluntary separation.

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Right, I forgot about that. Still need to do the weekly claims and job search log.

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Exactly. The good cause just gets you over the first hurdle of being eligible.

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Final advice - don't quit until you have everything documented and ready to file your claim immediately. The sooner you file after quitting, the sooner your waiting period starts.

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Thank you everyone! This has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more prepared now.

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Good luck with whatever you decide! Having a toxic work environment is awful and no one should have to put up with that.

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Thanks for the support. It really helps to know I'm not alone in this situation.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you quit, you might also lose access to COBRA health insurance continuation. Make sure you understand all the consequences before making your decision.

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Actually I think you can still get COBRA if you quit voluntarily. But that's a good point about considering all the impacts.

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You're right about COBRA, my mistake. But definitely factor in all the financial implications of quitting vs staying.

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Have you considered talking to an employment lawyer before quitting? Many offer free consultations and might give you better advice about whether your situation would qualify for good cause.

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That's not a bad idea. Do you know if there are any that specialize in unemployment law specifically?

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Most employment lawyers handle unemployment issues as part of their practice. Washington State Bar Association has a lawyer referral service that might help.

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Whatever you decide, start documenting everything NOW. Dates, times, what was said, who was present, how it affected you. Even if you don't quit, having a paper trail protects you.

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Good advice. I've been keeping some notes but I should be more systematic about it.

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Email yourself summaries after incidents so there's a timestamp. Keep copies of any written communications. Take photos if there are safety issues.

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i quit my job 2 years ago because my boss was a nightmare and got denied. washington esd basically said deal with it or find another job. the system is rigged against workers

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Did you document the issues and try to resolve them through proper channels first? That's usually the key factor in these determinations.

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honestly no i just couldnt take it anymore and walked out. but why should workers have to jump through hoops just to escape abuse?

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Another option to consider is whether you can get reduced hours or take medical leave first. Sometimes employers will accommodate rather than lose an employee, and it might give you time to explore your options.

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I hadn't thought about requesting accommodations. That might buy me some time to document things better.

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Exactly. Plus if they refuse reasonable accommodations, that could strengthen your case for good cause if you do decide to quit.

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Just remember that even if you qualify for benefits after quitting, there might be a waiting period before payments start. Plan your finances accordingly.

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How long is the waiting period typically?

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There's always a one-week waiting period for any UI claim, but if there's an issue with your quit reason it could be much longer while they investigate.

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One more resource - WorkSource has employment counselors who might be able to help you think through your options before you make a decision. They understand the unemployment system pretty well.

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Thanks, I'll look into that. At this point I need all the guidance I can get.

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They also have job search resources if you do decide to leave. Worth checking out either way.

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Bottom line - quitting for good cause is possible but the bar is high. Document everything, try to resolve issues internally first, and be prepared for a potentially lengthy adjudication process if you do file for benefits.

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This has been really helpful everyone. I think I need to start being more strategic about documenting issues before I make any decisions.

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Smart approach. Take your time to build a solid case if you do decide to quit. Better to be over-prepared than under-prepared with Washington ESD.

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Good luck with whatever you decide. Toxic work environments are terrible for your health but make sure you protect yourself legally and financially too.

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Thank you. It's nice to know there are options even if they're not easy ones.

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If you do end up needing to file a claim and have questions about the process, definitely consider using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Getting actual answers from Washington ESD can make a huge difference in understanding your rights.

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I bookmarked their site. Hopefully I won't need it but good to know it's there if I do.

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Yeah exactly. Sometimes just having someone explain the process clearly can help you make better decisions about your situation.

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Make sure you file your claim as soon as possible after quitting. There are time limits on when you can file, and you don't want to miss your window. Also, be completely honest about why you quit - lying will only hurt your case if they find out.

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How soon after quitting should I file? I was thinking of waiting until I have all my documentation perfectly organized.

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File right away and then submit additional documentation as needed. You can always add more evidence during the adjudication process, but you can't file late.

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Has anyone dealt with constructive dismissal situations? Where they make your job so unbearable that you're basically forced to quit? I wonder if that's treated differently than regular good cause quits.

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Constructive dismissal can definitely qualify as good cause. The key is showing that a reasonable person in your situation would have felt compelled to quit due to the employer's actions.

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That might actually describe my situation better than just harassment. They've been trying to push me out by making my job impossible.

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whatever you do, dont quit without having another job lined up if possible. even if you get approved for unemployment, it takes forever and the amount is way less than your regular pay. i learned this the hard way.

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I've been trying to find another job but it's hard when you're dealing with this level of stress at your current job. It's affecting everything.

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Sometimes you have to prioritize your mental health. A toxic work environment can be really damaging long-term.

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I'm going through something similar right now. My supervisor has been making my life hell and I've documented everything. Reading this thread is giving me hope that I might actually have a case if I decide to quit. The stress is affecting my health at this point.

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I'm sorry you're dealing with this too. It's awful when work becomes that toxic. Are you considering filing complaints with HR or just documenting for now?

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I filed with HR but they basically brushed it off. Now I'm just documenting everything in case I need to quit and file for unemployment.

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One more thing - if you do quit and file for unemployment, make sure you stay on top of your weekly claims and job search requirements. Washington ESD is strict about that stuff and you don't want to get disqualified for not following the rules.

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Good point. How many job applications do you have to do each week for Washington ESD?

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week, but check the current requirements on their website. They can change and you need to log everything properly.

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For anyone reading this thread later - definitely check if your employer has an Employee Assistance Program (EAP) or other resources for dealing with workplace issues. Sometimes using those services first can help strengthen your good cause case.

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That's a great suggestion. I should check what resources are available through my company before I make any final decisions.

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Just wanted to say good luck with whatever you decide. Toxic work environments are soul-crushing and no one should have to put up with abuse just to keep their job. Document everything and don't be afraid to stand up for yourself.

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Thank you for the encouragement. This thread has been incredibly helpful and given me a lot to think about.

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If you end up needing to talk to Washington ESD about your claim, I had good luck with claimyr.com - they helped me get through when I couldn't reach anyone through the regular phone lines. Sometimes you need that extra help navigating the system.

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I'm definitely bookmarking that. Sounds like I'm going to need all the help I can get if I go through with this.

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Bottom line - if you have legitimate good cause and proper documentation, Washington ESD should approve your claim. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't quit an abusive job and still get benefits. You have rights as a worker.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice and support. I have a lot to think about but I feel much more informed about my options now.

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Keep us updated on what you decide to do. And remember - your mental health and wellbeing matter more than any job.

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I had to quit because my employer wouldn't let me take FMLA leave for my sick parent. Washington ESD initially denied my claim but I appealed and won. The key was showing that I had no choice but to quit due to family circumstances beyond my control.

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How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about the time without income.

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About 8 weeks total from filing the appeal to getting the decision. It's stressful but if you have a valid case, it's worth pursuing.

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Don't forget that even if you quit for good cause, you still have to meet all the other unemployment requirements like being able and available for work and actively seeking employment. Quitting for good cause just means you won't be disqualified, but you still need to do weekly claims and job searches.

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Good point! I was so focused on the quit issue that I forgot about the ongoing requirements. Thanks for the reminder.

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Yeah it's totally legitimate. They just help you navigate the phone system more efficiently. I was able to get clarification on my adjudication status that I couldn't get through the regular channels.

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Just to add another perspective - transportation issues can qualify as good cause too. If your employer moves locations and you can't reasonably commute, or if you lose your transportation through no fault of your own, that might qualify. But again, you need to document everything.

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That's interesting. I didn't know transportation could be a reason. Are there other unusual circumstances that might qualify?

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Yeah, if your employer asks you to do something illegal or unethical, that's definitely good cause. Or if they fail to pay you as agreed. Each case is unique though.

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One thing to remember is that Washington ESD will contact your former employer during the adjudication process. They'll get their side of the story too, so make sure your documentation is solid and truthful. If your stories don't match up, it could hurt your case.

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That makes me nervous. What if my employer lies about what happened?

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That's why documentation is so important. Emails, written complaints, witness statements - anything that proves your version of events. Washington ESD adjudicators are trained to evaluate conflicting information.

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I successfully got unemployment after quitting due to wage theft. My employer kept 'forgetting' to pay overtime and wouldn't fix it even after I complained. Washington ESD considered it good cause because the employer was violating labor laws. Document any pay issues carefully!

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Wow, I never thought about wage issues being grounds for quitting. That's really helpful to know!

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Yeah, if they're not paying you correctly and won't fix it after you bring it to their attention, that's definitely grounds for quitting. Keep pay stubs and document all your complaints about it.

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD wants to see that you had no reasonable alternative to quitting. If you could have resolved the issue by talking to your boss or HR, but you didn't try, they'll likely deny your claim. But if you tried to work it out and they ignored you or made it worse, that's good cause.

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This has been incredibly helpful everyone. I feel much more confident about my situation now. I'm going to start documenting everything more systematically and file formal complaints before making any decisions.

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Xan Dae

Smart approach! Take your time to build a solid case. It's better to have too much documentation than not enough when it comes to unemployment adjudication.

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I second this recommendation. Used Claimyr when I was dealing with my own quit situation and it saved me weeks of frustration trying to get answers.

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One last resource - Washington ESD has a handbook online that explains all the good cause reasons in detail. Worth reading before you make your decision.

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I'll keep that in mind. Might be worth it to get professional guidance on my specific case.

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