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What happens if you turn down a job while on unemployment Washington ESD?

I've been on UI for about 6 weeks now and yesterday I got offered a part-time job that pays way less than my previous salary and doesn't match my skills at all. The hours would also conflict with my kids' school schedule. I'm worried about what happens if I turn down this job offer - will Washington ESD cut off my benefits? Do I have to take any job that's offered to me even if it doesn't make sense? I'm still actively looking and have other interviews lined up but I'm scared they'll say I'm not available for work or something.

You don't have to take just any job! Washington ESD has guidelines about suitable work. Generally you can refuse jobs that pay significantly less than your previous wage (usually 75% or less after the first few weeks), don't match your skills/experience, or create genuine hardship like childcare conflicts. Document everything about why you refused it.

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That's a relief! Should I report that I turned it down when I file my weekly claim? And what kind of documentation do I need?

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Yes, be honest on your weekly claim. Keep records of the job offer details, your reasons for refusing, and any communication with the employer. Better to be upfront than have them find out later.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Turned down a retail job because it was 40% less pay than my previous office job. Washington ESD did contact me about it but once I explained the pay difference and showed my job search log, they said it was reasonable to refuse. The key is showing you're still actively looking for appropriate work.

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How long did it take them to contact you? I'm worried they'll just stop my benefits without warning.

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It was about 2 weeks before I got a letter asking for more info. They didn't stop my benefits during the review process which was good.

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The whole process of dealing with job refusal questions can be really stressful, especially when you're trying to reach Washington ESD to explain your situation. I had a similar issue where I needed to talk to someone about suitable work guidelines but couldn't get through on the phone for weeks. I ended up using Claimyr (claimyr.com) which actually got me connected to an ESD rep the same day. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Definitely helped me avoid weeks of worry about my claim status.

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Interesting, might have to try that. I've been trying to reach ESD for two weeks about my own job refusal situation.

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wait so you can actually say no to jobs?? I thought you HAD to take anything they offered or lose benefits. I've been applying to everything even jobs I hate just because I was scared

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No, you have rights! Look up 'suitable work' in the Washington ESD handbook. You're not required to take work that's way below your skill level or pay grade, especially early in your claim.

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omg this changes everything. I almost took a minimum wage job last week because I thought I had to

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The suitable work rules change over time though. In the beginning you can be more selective but after several months they expect you to consider jobs that pay less or aren't perfect matches. I think it's something like 75% of your previous wage for the first 8 weeks, then it goes down to 65% or something. Don't quote me on the exact percentages but there's definitely a sliding scale.

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Do you know where I can find the exact percentages? I want to make sure I understand the rules completely.

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It's in the ESD unemployment handbook under suitable work provisions. You can download it from their website or they should have mailed you a copy when you first filed.

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Just make sure you're documenting EVERYTHING. Keep track of every job you apply for, every interview, every offer you receive or turn down. Washington ESD can audit your claim at any time and they want to see that you're making a genuine effort to find work. Your job search log is your best protection.

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I've been using the WorkSourceWA website to track applications. Is that enough or should I be keeping separate records too?

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WorkSource is good but I'd keep your own spreadsheet too. Include dates, company names, position titles, how you applied, any responses. More detail is always better if they question you.

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The system is so confusing tbh. Like how are you supposed to know what's 'suitable' and what isn't? They should make this stuff clearer instead of making us guess and worry about losing benefits.

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Totally agree. Half the stress of being on unemployment is trying to figure out all these unwritten rules.

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The rules are actually written out, they're just buried in documentation that's hard to find. The ESD website has all the guidelines but it's not exactly user-friendly.

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I turned down a job 3 months into my claim and they did question it. Had to go through a whole interview process where they asked about my job search activities and why I refused the position. It was nerve-wracking but since I had valid reasons (pay was 60% of my previous salary) they approved it. Just be prepared to justify your decision.

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Did they do the interview over the phone or in person? And how long did the whole process take?

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It was over the phone, took about 30 minutes. The whole process from when they first contacted me to final decision was maybe 3 weeks. My benefits continued during the review though.

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Here's what I learned from my experience - timing matters a lot. If you're early in your claim (first 8-12 weeks) you have more flexibility to turn down jobs that aren't suitable. But if you've been collecting for months, they expect you to be less picky. Also geographic distance matters - they can't expect you to take a job that's unreasonably far from your home.

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What's considered unreasonably far? The job I turned down was about 45 minutes away which seemed like a lot with gas prices.

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I think the general rule is within reasonable commuting distance for your area. 45 minutes might be borderline depending on where you live. In Seattle area that's probably normal but in rural areas maybe not.

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Does anyone know if temporary or contract work counts the same as permanent jobs for this? I got offered a 2-week temp assignment that pays okay but obviously has no job security.

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Temp work is generally considered suitable work if it meets the other criteria (pay, location, etc.). But the short duration might be a factor in your favor if you're looking for permanent employment.

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I took temp work while on UI and it actually worked out well. You can still collect benefits between assignments if there are gaps.

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The childcare conflict you mentioned is definitely a valid reason to refuse work. Washington ESD recognizes that if taking a job would cost you more in childcare than you'd earn, or if suitable childcare isn't available during the work hours, that's grounds to refuse. Just document your childcare situation clearly.

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That's exactly my situation! The job was during school hours when I need to be available for pickup/dropoff. How do I document childcare conflicts?

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School schedules, any written communication about your childcare needs, costs of potential childcare if you looked into it. Show that it's not just preference but a genuine barrier to employment.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now and trying to get through to ESD to ask about it has been impossible. Been calling for days and either get busy signals or get disconnected after waiting forever. Really frustrating when you just need a quick answer about whether refusing a job will affect your benefits.

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That's exactly why I ended up trying Claimyr. The regular phone system is just broken with how overloaded they are. At least with Claimyr I knew someone was actively trying to get me through instead of me just sitting there hoping.

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Might have to look into that. This waiting game is killing me.

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Another thing to consider - make sure you understand the difference between refusing work and quitting work. If you accept a job and then quit within a few days because it's not suitable, that's different from refusing the offer upfront. Quitting can be harder to justify than refusing.

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Good point. I made that mistake once - took a job thinking I had to, then quit after 3 days because it was awful. ESD was much less understanding about that than they would have been if I'd just refused initially.

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So it's better to be upfront about not taking the job rather than trying it out first?

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Generally yes, if you have valid reasons to believe it's not suitable work. Don't waste everyone's time including your own.

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The most important thing is being honest and having documentation. I've seen people get in trouble for not reporting job offers they refused, thinking ESD wouldn't find out. Employers sometimes report to ESD when someone turns down work, so it's better to be proactive about reporting it yourself.

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I didn't know employers could report that! Good thing I was planning to mention it on my weekly claim.

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Yeah they don't always report it but some do, especially larger companies. Better safe than sorry.

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Just remember that your situation sounds completely reasonable. Part-time work that conflicts with childcare and pays significantly less than your previous job is textbook unsuitable work, especially only 6 weeks into your claim. Don't stress too much about it but do document your reasons clearly.

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Thank you, that makes me feel a lot better. I was really worried I'd made a huge mistake.

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You did the right thing. It's better to hold out for appropriate work than to take something that doesn't make financial or practical sense.

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Has anyone had to deal with a formal hearing about job refusal? I'm wondering what that process is like if they decide to challenge your decision.

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I haven't personally but I know they're pretty formal. You present your case, they review the evidence, and make a decision. Having good documentation is crucial for hearings.

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My brother went through a hearing last year for a different issue. He said having all his paperwork organized and being able to clearly explain his situation made a big difference.

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One more tip - if you do get contacted by ESD about the job refusal, don't panic. Answer their questions honestly and provide any documentation they ask for. Most of the time if you have legitimate reasons and you're actively job searching, they'll understand. The system is designed to help people find appropriate work, not force them into bad situations.

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This whole thread has been so helpful. I feel much more confident about my decision now and know what to expect if they do contact me about it.

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That's what this community is for! We've all been through various parts of this process and it helps to share experiences.

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I just want to add that it's really important to keep track of your ongoing job search activities too. Even if you refuse a job for valid reasons, ESD will still want to see that you're actively looking for other work. Make sure you're applying to your required number of jobs each week and documenting everything. The job refusal becomes much less of an issue when you can show you're genuinely engaged in finding suitable employment. Also, don't let one unsuitable job offer discourage you from continuing your search - there are better opportunities out there that will be a proper fit for your skills and situation.

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This is such great advice! I've been so focused on worrying about the job refusal that I almost forgot the bigger picture - showing I'm still actively searching. I'm definitely going to make sure my job search log is really detailed and shows consistent effort. It's reassuring to know that as long as I'm genuinely looking for appropriate work, one refusal shouldn't derail everything. Thanks for the perspective!

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