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Can I refuse a job offer while on Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I've been collecting unemployment for about 6 weeks now and just got a job offer. The thing is, it's paying about $4 less per hour than my previous job and the commute is almost 45 minutes each way. I know I have to do job searches every week but can I actually turn down a job offer without losing my benefits? The Washington ESD website isn't super clear about this and I'm worried they'll cut me off if I refuse. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

You can refuse a job offer but it has to meet certain criteria to be considered 'suitable work' under Washington ESD rules. If the pay is significantly lower than your previous job or the commute is unreasonable, you might have grounds to refuse. But you need to be careful and document everything.

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How much lower can the pay be before it's considered unsuitable? My previous job was $22/hour and this offer is $18/hour.

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Generally after the first few weeks of benefits, you can refuse jobs that pay less than 80% of your previous wage. At $18/hour vs $22/hour, that's about 82%, so it might be borderline. The long commute could help your case though.

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I went through this exact situation last year. You need to contact Washington ESD immediately if you refuse a job offer. Don't just ignore it or they'll definitely cut your benefits. I had to fill out some forms explaining why the job wasn't suitable.

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Did you have trouble getting through to them on the phone? I've been trying to call for days but keep getting disconnected.

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That sounds too good to be true. How much does it cost?

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I'm not sure about the exact cost but it was worth it to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD instead of wasting hours trying to get through on my own.

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Wait, you got a job offer after only 6 weeks? Lucky! I've been searching for 4 months and haven't had a single interview. Maybe I should be less picky...

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I've been applying to everything I can find. This particular job came through a temp agency. Keep trying!

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The job market is rough right now. I've been unemployed for 3 months and finally got an offer but it's part-time minimum wage. Considering taking it just to have something.

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Be very careful about refusing job offers. Washington ESD takes this seriously and they will investigate if the employer reports that you turned down their offer. You need to have a legitimate reason that falls under their 'good cause' rules.

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What counts as 'good cause'? The commute thing seems reasonable to me but I don't want to risk my benefits.

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Good cause includes things like: wages substantially below your previous job, working conditions that are unsafe, hours that conflict with caring for dependents, or excessive travel time. A 45-minute commute might qualify depending on your situation.

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Also if the job requires skills you don't have or if it's not in your usual occupation during the first few weeks of benefits. But after a certain point, you're expected to take jobs outside your field.

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I refused a job offer about 8 weeks into my claim because it was a night shift and I have kids. Washington ESD approved my refusal but I had to provide documentation about my childcare situation. Document everything and be prepared to justify your decision.

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How long did it take for them to make a decision about your refusal?

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It took about 2 weeks for them to review my case. During that time my benefits continued normally, but I know some people get their payments held up while under review.

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This is exactly why I hate the unemployment system. They force you to apply for jobs and then penalize you if you don't take whatever garbage offer comes your way. It's like they want to push people into poverty-wage jobs.

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I mean, unemployment isn't supposed to be permanent. At some point you have to take what's available.

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Sure, but forcing someone to take a job that pays so little they still can't afford rent isn't helping anyone. It just subsidizes employers who want to pay below-market wages.

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The system is supposed to give you time to find suitable work, not force you into the first offer that comes along. That's why the good cause provisions exist.

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Whatever you decide, make sure you report the job offer on your weekly claim. Even if you refuse it, you need to disclose that you received an offer. Trying to hide it will get you in bigger trouble.

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I didn't know I had to report offers I refuse. Where do you put that information on the weekly claim?

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There's a section asking about work offers. Be honest about receiving it and briefly explain why you refused. Better to be upfront than have them find out later.

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I'm dealing with something similar but my situation is that the job offer requires me to relocate to Spokane and I can't move right now because of family obligations. Anyone know if that's considered good cause?

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Relocation requirements can definitely be good cause, especially if it's a significant distance or you have family/personal obligations keeping you in your current area.

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Thanks, that's reassuring. I was worried they'd expect me to uproot my whole life for a job.

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Pro tip: if you do refuse a job offer, write a detailed letter explaining your reasons and keep a copy for your records. I had to appeal a disqualification once and having documentation saved me.

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Good advice. I'll definitely document everything if I decide to refuse this offer.

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Also take screenshots of the job posting if it's online, so you have proof of the wage and job requirements they offered you.

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Has anyone here actually had their benefits terminated for refusing a job? I keep hearing about it but haven't met anyone who actually had it happen.

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My cousin got disqualified for refusing a job at a fast food place. But she had been on benefits for like 5 months and the job was in her skill level, so maybe that's different.

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Yeah, I think it depends a lot on how long you've been collecting and what kind of job it is.

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The longer you're on benefits, the more they expect you to expand your job search and consider jobs outside your previous field or at lower wages.

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Just to add another perspective - I took a lower-paying job because I was scared to refuse it, and I regretted it. The job was awful and I ended up quitting after 3 weeks, which made me ineligible for unemployment again. Sometimes it's better to hold out for something suitable.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. This job offer just doesn't feel right but I'm scared to say no.

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Trust your instincts. If you have legitimate reasons to refuse and can document them, you should be okay. Don't let fear push you into a bad situation.

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I tried using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it actually worked! Got through to a Washington ESD agent in about 30 minutes instead of spending all day trying to call. Worth checking out if you need to discuss your job refusal situation with them directly.

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Really? I'm getting desperate to actually talk to someone there. I'll look into it.

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Yeah, the video demo on their site shows exactly how it works. Much better than hanging up and redialing a hundred times.

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Does anyone know if seasonal work affects this? I got offered a temporary holiday job but it would only last 6 weeks and then I'd be unemployed again.

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Temporary work can be tricky. You might have to take it if it's suitable, but you could potentially qualify for benefits again when it ends if you've earned enough.

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The whole system is so confusing. I wish there was clearer guidance on all these situations.

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UPDATE: I decided to call the employer and negotiate. Told them about the commute and pay concerns and they actually increased the offer by $1.50/hour and said I could start with a hybrid schedule. Sometimes it's worth having the conversation before outright refusing.

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That's not a bad outcome! I hadn't thought about trying to negotiate. Maybe I should try that approach.

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Definitely worth a shot. Worst they can say is no, and then you're back to deciding whether to refuse or not.

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Smart move! Negotiating shows you're serious about working but also advocating for fair terms.

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Be aware that some employers will report job refusals to Washington ESD even if you negotiate first. Make sure you document any conversations you have with them about changing the terms.

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Good point. I'll make sure to keep notes about any discussions I have with them.

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Email is your friend for this stuff. Always follow up phone conversations with an email summarizing what was discussed.

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I'm curious about the timeline here. How quickly do you have to respond to a job offer? I got one on Friday afternoon and they want an answer by Monday morning.

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That's a pretty tight timeline. You should be able to ask for a few days to consider, especially if you need time to evaluate whether it meets Washington ESD's suitability criteria.

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I asked for until Wednesday and they agreed. Gives me time to think it through properly.

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Final thought - whatever you decide, stick with it and be prepared to explain your reasoning. Washington ESD reviews these cases pretty thoroughly so having a clear, documented rationale is important.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I feel much more informed about my options now.

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Good luck with whatever you decide! The unemployment system is stressful enough without having to worry about every decision.

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