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Diez Ellis

Can you turn down a job on unemployment without losing Washington ESD benefits?

I've been on UI for about 6 weeks and just got a job offer that honestly seems terrible - it's minimum wage, no benefits, and the schedule conflicts with my kid's daycare hours. I know I'm supposed to accept suitable work but this doesn't feel suitable at all. Can I turn this down without Washington ESD cutting off my benefits? What counts as 'suitable work' anyway? I'm really stressed about this because I need the unemployment payments but this job would actually cost me money in childcare.

You can turn down work that isn't suitable! Washington ESD considers several factors: wage compared to your previous job, commute distance, working conditions, and your skills/experience. If it conflicts with childcare and pays way less than your previous work, you might have grounds to refuse it.

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That's a relief! My previous job paid $22/hour and this one is only $15.50. Plus it's 45 minutes away. Do I need to document why I'm turning it down?

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Yes, definitely document everything - the job offer details, why it's not suitable, and keep records. You might need to explain it to Washington ESD later.

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Be careful though - after a certain period on unemployment, the definition of 'suitable work' gets broader. Early on you can be pickier about wages and job type, but the longer you're on benefits, the more they expect you to accept lower-paying work.

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How long before they start expecting me to take anything? I'm only 6 weeks in but want to know what I'm facing.

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Usually after 13 weeks they start expecting you to consider work that pays about 80% of your previous wage instead of 100%. But childcare conflicts are always a valid reason regardless of timing.

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This is why I used claimyr.com when I had questions about suitable work requirements. Way easier than trying to get through to Washington ESD on the phone to ask about specific situations.

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I turned down two jobs during my unemployment and never had issues. One was because it required a 2-hour commute each way, the other because it was temporary work that paid 40% less than my previous salary. Just make sure you document the reasons clearly.

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That makes me feel better. Did Washington ESD ever ask you about it during your weekly claims?

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Nope, never came up. But I always made sure to note it in my job search log with detailed reasons why each position wasn't suitable.

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Wait I'm confused about this whole thing. If you turn down ANY job don't they automatically cut your benefits?? I thought that was the rule.

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No, that's a common misconception. You can refuse work that isn't suitable - it's about whether the job meets certain criteria, not just any job offer.

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Oh wow I had no idea. I've been terrified to even apply for jobs I didn't want because I thought I'd HAVE to take them if offered.

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You should still apply broadly though - the job search requirement is separate from the suitable work rule. But yeah, you don't have to accept everything.

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The whole system is rigged against working parents tbh. They say childcare conflicts are valid reasons but then make you jump through hoops to prove it.

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That's what I'm worried about. Like what kind of proof do they want? A letter from the daycare?

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Documentation of your childcare arrangements and costs can help. Daycare schedules, costs, availability - anything showing the job wouldn't work with your situation.

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I had a similar situation last year. Turned down a job because it would have actually cost me money after factoring in gas and parking downtown. Never heard anything from Washington ESD about it. The key is being able to show it's genuinely not suitable.

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That's exactly my situation! Between gas, parking, and increased childcare costs, I'd be losing money working there.

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Yeah, make sure to calculate all those hidden costs. Washington ESD does consider the full financial impact when determining if work is suitable.

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This happened to me too but I couldn't get through to anyone at Washington ESD to ask about it. Finally used that service someone mentioned here - claimyr.com - and got connected to an actual agent who confirmed I could refuse the job.

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Just to be clear - you DO need to report job offers and refusals in your weekly claim filing. Don't try to hide it, just explain why you turned it down.

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Where exactly do I report that in the weekly claim? I don't remember seeing a specific section for job offers.

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There's usually a question about whether you refused any work during the week. If you answer yes, it gives you space to explain why.

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honestly the Washington ESD rules are so confusing about this stuff. I've been on unemployment twice and still don't fully understand what they consider 'suitable

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The basic factors are: wage level compared to previous work, commute distance, match with your skills/experience, working conditions, and personal circumstances like childcare.

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ok that helps. So it's not just about the money then?

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Right, it's a combination of factors. A job might pay well but still not be suitable if it requires skills you don't have or creates impossible logistics.

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Update: I decided to turn down the job and documented all my reasons. Feeling much better about it after reading everyone's responses. Thanks for the help!

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Good for you! Better to wait for something truly suitable than get stuck in a job that doesn't work for your situation.

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Smart move. Keep applying and something better will come along that actually makes sense for your life.

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I'm dealing with something similar but my job offer is part-time and I was full-time before. Can I turn that down too?

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Generally yes, especially early in your claim. If you were working full-time before, part-time work might not be considered suitable initially.

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That's what I hoped. It's only 20 hours a week and I really need full-time income.

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The childcare thing is definitely a valid reason. I turned down a job that required weekend work because I couldn't find weekend childcare and Washington ESD never questioned it.

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That's reassuring! Mine would require evening hours and my daycare closes at 6pm.

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Yeah that's clearly not workable. Document the daycare hours and you should be fine.

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Wait so if I turn down a job do I have to report it that same week or can I wait?

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Report it in the weekly claim for the week it happened. Don't wait - being upfront is always better than having them find out later.

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Got it, thanks. I was worried about reporting it but sounds like it's actually better to be honest.

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THIS IS WHY THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. They make you apply for jobs then let you turn them down anyway??? Make it make sense.

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The job search requirement ensures you're actively looking for work. The suitable work rule ensures you don't have to accept jobs that don't make financial or practical sense.

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I guess that makes sense when you put it that way but it still seems backwards to me

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For what it's worth, I used that phone service someone mentioned - Claimyr - to get clarity on this exact question when I was dealing with a similar situation. The agent I spoke with was really helpful in explaining the suitable work guidelines.

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I might look into that if I have more questions. It's so hard to get through to Washington ESD directly.

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Yeah that's exactly why I used it. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way less stressful than calling the regular number.

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just wanted to say good luck with everything! being unemployed with kids is so stressful.

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Thank you! It really is. Trying to balance job searching with parenting is exhausting.

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I'm curious - has anyone here ever had Washington ESD actually investigate a job refusal? Like did they contact the employer or anything?

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It can happen but it's not super common unless there are red flags or patterns of refusing multiple suitable jobs.

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OK good to know. I've only turned down one job so far but was paranoid they'd investigate.

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They're more likely to investigate if you refuse several jobs or if the reasons seem questionable. One refusal with valid reasons usually doesn't trigger anything.

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The wage thing is key. If the job pays significantly less than your previous work, especially early in your claim, that's usually grounds for refusal.

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Mine would be about 30% less than my previous salary. Sounds like that's significant enough to justify turning it down.

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Yeah, 30% is a pretty big cut, especially this early in your claim period.

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Does anyone know if they consider your education level when determining suitable work? Like if you have a degree, can you turn down jobs that don't require one?

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Education and experience are factors, but it depends on how long you've been unemployed. Early on, yes, they consider whether the job matches your qualifications.

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That makes sense. I have a bachelor's degree and was worried I'd have to take any minimum wage job immediately.

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Bottom line - document everything, be honest in your weekly claims, and don't stress too much about one job refusal if you have valid reasons.

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Thanks, that's good advice. I'm feeling much more confident about my decision now.

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Good! Trust your instincts about what works for your situation. The system is supposed to help you find suitable work, not force you into impossible situations.

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