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Natasha Romanova

What defines unemployment for Washington ESD benefits - confused about eligibility requirements

I'm trying to understand what exactly qualifies as being unemployed for Washington ESD purposes. I know it sounds like a basic question but I'm getting mixed information. I was working part-time (about 25 hours a week) at a retail job that ended last month, and before that I had a full-time position that I left voluntarily in August. My friend says I might not qualify because I quit my full-time job, but another person told me it only matters about my most recent job. I've never filed for unemployment before and I'm really confused about what Washington ESD considers as unemployed. Do I need to be completely without work, or does losing part-time work count? And does it matter that I quit my previous full-time job months ago?

The basic definition for Washington ESD is that you're unemployed through no fault of your own. Since your most recent job ended (not quit), that's what they'll look at first. You don't have to be completely without work - even losing part-time employment can qualify you for benefits.

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That's a relief! So they won't automatically disqualify me because I quit the full-time job earlier?

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Not automatically, but they will review your work history. As long as your most recent separation wasn't voluntary, you should be okay.

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washington esd looks at your most recent work first but they can go back further if needed. if you quit without good cause they might create issues. what was the reason you left the full time job?

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I left because of a better opportunity that turned out to be the part-time job. Not really a good cause I guess.

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Oof that might complicate things. Washington ESD can be pretty strict about voluntary quits.

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Here's the technical definition: Washington ESD considers you unemployed if you're without work and available for work. You also need to have lost your job through no fault of your own OR have qualifying reasons for leaving. The key factors are: 1) You're not working or working reduced hours, 2) You're able and available for work, 3) You're actively seeking work, 4) Your job loss wasn't due to misconduct or voluntary quit without good cause.

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This is really helpful. What counts as 'actively seeking work' exactly? Do I need to apply to a specific number of jobs?

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Yes, you need to make at least 3 job search activities per week and keep a log. This includes applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking activities, etc.

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I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks to get clarification on my job search requirements but can never get through. The phone system is impossible.

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Never heard of that service. Does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?

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Sounds too good to be true but honestly anything is better than trying to call Washington ESD directly.

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UNEMPLOYMENT DEFINITION IS SO CONFUSING!!! I've been trying to figure this out for my sister who got laid off but she also has a small side business selling crafts online. Does that count as being employed???

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She needs to report all income from the craft business when filing weekly claims. Washington ESD allows some earnings while on unemployment but it affects benefit amounts.

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ok but does having the business mean she's not unemployed? this is so stressful

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No, she can still be considered unemployed if her main source of employment ended. The side business income just needs to be reported.

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washington esd system is broken anyway. they'll find any reason to deny claims. i was denied initially even though i got laid off because they said i didn't meet some random requirement

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What was the specific reason for denial? Most initial denials can be appealed if there was an error in the determination.

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something about not having enough earnings in my base period. took forever to sort out

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Update: I went ahead and filed my claim today. The online system asked about my work history and I listed both jobs. Hopefully they'll determine I'm eligible based on the part-time job ending involuntarily.

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Good call filing sooner rather than later. Even if there are issues to resolve, at least you'll have your claim date established.

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yeah dont wait. worst case they deny and you can appeal

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Just want to add - being unemployed for Washington ESD also means you have to be physically able to work and available for work. If you're sick, in school full-time, or have other commitments that prevent you from accepting work, you might not qualify even if you lost your job.

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I'm definitely able and available. Just trying to understand all the requirements so I don't mess up my weekly claims.

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Smart approach. Make sure you understand the job search requirements too - that trips up a lot of people.

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The 'able and available' thing is stricter than you think. I got questioned because I said I could only work certain hours due to childcare. Had to prove I had arrangements for full-time work.

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That's concerning. I don't have any restrictions like that but good to know they're thorough.

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They are very thorough. I remember having to document everything about my availability.

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For anyone still confused about Washington ESD unemployment definitions, the key is that you're without your regular full-time employment through no fault of your own. Part-time work ending definitely counts, and you can even work part-time while collecting benefits as long as you report the earnings.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about my claim now.

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Same here. I was confused about some of these requirements too.

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One thing that helped me when I was figuring out my eligibility was actually talking to a Washington ESD representative. I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and got connected pretty quickly. The agent explained exactly how they would evaluate my specific situation.

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That sounds really useful. I might try that if I run into issues with my claim.

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Yeah I've heard good things about that service for getting through to Washington ESD.

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Also worth mentioning - if you're on standby status (temporarily laid off but expecting to return to work), that's a different type of unemployment claim. You're still considered unemployed but the requirements are different.

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Good point, though that doesn't apply to my situation since my job ended permanently.

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Standby is confusing too. I was on standby for months thinking I'd get called back.

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The bottom line is Washington ESD wants to make sure you're genuinely looking for work and lost your job for reasons beyond your control. As long as you meet those basic criteria and follow all the weekly claim requirements, you should be fine.

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That makes sense. I'll make sure to stay on top of my job search activities and weekly filings.

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Consistency is key with Washington ESD. Don't miss any weekly claims even if you're not sure about something.

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For what it's worth, I think you'll be fine since your most recent job ended involuntarily. The voluntary quit from months ago might come up during adjudication but probably won't be a deal breaker.

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Thanks for the reassurance. I'll just have to wait and see what happens during the review process.

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Adjudication can take a while but usually works out if you're honest about everything.

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Good to know there are options for when I need to talk to someone directly.

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The phone situation with Washington ESD is ridiculous. Any service that can help with that is worth it.

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