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Washington ESD $600 weekly benefit - will unemployment affect my social security benefits?

I'm 63 and collecting unemployment from Washington ESD right now, getting about $600 per week. I'm planning to file for social security in a couple years when I turn 65. Someone told me that unemployment benefits could reduce my future social security payments or affect my eligibility somehow. Is this true? I've been looking on the SSA website but can't find clear info about how UI benefits interact with social security. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Unemployment benefits don't affect your Social Security retirement benefits at all. They're completely separate systems. UI is a temporary wage replacement program, SS is based on your lifetime earnings record. The only thing that might affect your future SS is if you're not working and earning credits right now, but that's a different issue.

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That's such a relief to hear! I was really worried I'd have to choose between collecting unemployment now or having lower SS payments later.

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Wait, but doesn't unemployment count as income for tax purposes? Could that affect anything?

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Yes UI is taxable income but that doesn't impact your SS benefit calculation. SS benefits are based on your highest 35 years of earnings from actual employment, not unemployment compensation.

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I went through this exact same worry last year when I was on unemployment at 61. Called the Social Security office and they confirmed - unemployment has zero impact on your future retirement benefits. The only way it could matter is if you're already receiving SS disability, then there might be some coordination issues.

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Good to know! I'm not on disability, just regular unemployment while job hunting. Did you have any trouble getting through to SS on the phone?

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Actually yes, their phone system is almost as bad as Washington ESD's. Took me like 8 tries to get through to a real person.

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How much does that cost though? I'm already struggling financially, can't afford to pay extra just to talk to someone.

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It's worth checking out their site for the details. For me it was totally worth it compared to spending entire days trying to get through. Time is money, you know?

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Never heard of this but might try it if I need to call ESD again. The regular phone system is absolutely brutal.

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Just to add - make sure you're keeping track of your work search activities if Washington ESD requires them. That's totally separate from the SS question but important for keeping your benefits.

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Yes I'm doing my 3 job searches per week and logging them in the system. Thanks for the reminder though!

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Wait is it 3 per week? I thought it was 5. Now I'm confused about what the current requirement is.

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It depends on your situation. Standard is 3 but some people have different requirements based on their claim type or local office.

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The whole system is so confusing! I'm 58 and worried about the same thing. Plus I heard if you collect unemployment it might affect when you can retire or something?

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No, unemployment doesn't affect your retirement timing at all. You can retire whenever you want (though full SS benefits don't start until your full retirement age, which is probably 67 for you).

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OK that makes sense. I think I was mixing this up with something about early retirement and working.

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I was worried about this too when I was on UI. Turns out the only benefit that unemployment might affect is SSI (Supplemental Security Income) because that's need-based. But regular Social Security retirement? Nope, no impact at all.

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Good distinction - I'm talking about regular SS retirement benefits, not SSI. Thanks for clarifying that.

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What's the difference between SS and SSI? I always get those confused.

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SS retirement is based on your work history and what you paid in. SSI is for people with limited income and resources, regardless of work history.

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OMG I was stressing about this same thing! I'm 64 and planning to file for SS next year. My unemployment runs out in 2 months and I was panicking that it would somehow mess up my SS application.

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Right? It's such a relief to know they're separate. Are you planning to work after your unemployment ends or just wait until SS kicks in?

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Probably try to find something part-time. At our age it's not easy but I need some income between UI ending and SS starting.

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The only thing I'd be careful about is making sure you report any work you do while on unemployment. That could affect your weekly UI payments, but like everyone said, it won't touch your future SS.

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Definitely! I'm not working at all right now, just job searching. But good reminder for anyone who might be doing part-time work.

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Yeah you have to report even like one day of work or they'll come after you for overpayment.

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Has anyone actually tried to get clarification from Washington ESD about this? I feel like they should have info about how UI interacts with other benefits.

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Good luck getting through to them on the phone. Like I mentioned earlier, their phone system is a nightmare.

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That's exactly why I used Claimyr when I needed to talk to them. Way easier than the regular phone system.

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I might check that out. The few times I've tried calling ESD I just gave up after an hour of busy signals.

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This is good info. I'm 59 and was putting off filing for unemployment because I thought it might mess with my retirement planning somehow. Sounds like I was worried for no reason.

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If you're eligible for unemployment, you should definitely file. It's money you've paid into the system through your work history. No reason to leave it on the table.

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You're right. I think I was just overthinking it because retirement planning is already stressful enough.

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The $600 amount sounds about right for Washington. I think the max weekly benefit is around $650 or so right now. But yeah, none of that affects SS calculations at all.

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Yeah I'm getting close to the max based on my previous salary. Just want to make sure I'm not shooting myself in the foot for later.

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You're definitely not. If anything, being unemployed might mean you're not earning SS credits this year, but that's a separate issue from UI affecting your benefits.

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I wish there was better coordination between these different government agencies. It's so confusing trying to figure out how everything works together.

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Tell me about it. Every agency has their own rules and none of them talk to each other. Makes it really hard to plan anything.

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Exactly! And good luck getting clear answers when you call. Half the time the people answering don't even know.

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Just want to confirm what everyone else is saying - UI and SS are totally separate. I work in HR and deal with these questions a lot. The only time they might interact is if you're getting SS disability and then try to claim UI, but that's a different situation.

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Thanks for the professional perspective! That's really reassuring coming from someone who deals with this stuff regularly.

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What about if someone is collecting UI and then becomes disabled while on unemployment? Does that create any issues?

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That's complicated because UI requires you to be able and available for work, while disability benefits are for when you can't work. You'd need to talk to both agencies about that situation.

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Bottom line - collect your unemployment benefits and don't worry about SS. They're apples and oranges. Your future SS is based on your 35 highest earning years from actual employment, period.

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Perfect summary. I feel so much better about this now. Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses!

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This thread was really helpful. I had the same concerns and now I know I was worrying for nothing.

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One last thing - make sure you're thinking ahead about health insurance between when your UI ends and when you become eligible for Medicare. That gap can be expensive if you're not prepared.

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Good point! I'm on COBRA right now from my last job but that's pretty expensive too. Something else to research.

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Check if you qualify for any subsidies on the health insurance marketplace. At certain income levels you might get help with premiums.

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Definitely worth looking into. The gap between employer insurance and Medicare can be brutal financially.

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