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Katherine Shultz

Does Washington ESD unemployment count as income for Social Security benefits?

I'm 63 and collecting unemployment benefits from Washington ESD after losing my job in December. My wife thinks I should apply for Social Security early since I'm not working anyway, but I'm worried the unemployment payments might affect my Social Security benefits or eligibility. Does anyone know if Washington ESD unemployment benefits count as income when Social Security calculates your benefits? I'm getting about $580 per week in UI right now and don't want to mess anything up if I apply for Social Security.

Unemployment benefits don't count as earned income for Social Security purposes, but they can affect your taxes. You'll get a 1099-G from Washington ESD showing your total unemployment payments for the year, and that's considered taxable income by the IRS. However, Social Security uses your work earnings history to calculate benefits, not unemployment payments.

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That's a relief! So the $580/week I'm getting from Washington ESD won't reduce my future Social Security payments?

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Correct - unemployment doesn't reduce your Social Security calculation. But remember, if you start collecting Social Security before full retirement age and then get a job, your earnings from work could reduce your Social Security benefits temporarily.

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Be careful about the tax implications though. I collected unemployment last year and it pushed me into a higher tax bracket. Make sure you're having taxes withheld from your Washington ESD payments or set money aside for tax season.

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Good point. I think I have 10% federal taxes being withheld from my weekly claims, but maybe I should increase that.

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You can change your withholding anytime through your Washington ESD online account. I learned that the hard way after owing money at tax time.

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Thanks! I didn't know there were services to help with government phone calls. How much did it cost?

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It was worth it for me since I needed answers quickly about my benefits. Much better than spending all day redialing government numbers.

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Wait, I thought if you're collecting unemployment you can't collect Social Security at the same time? My neighbor told me you have to choose one or the other.

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That's not correct. You can collect both unemployment and Social Security simultaneously. They're completely different programs with different eligibility requirements.

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Your neighbor might be thinking of disability benefits, which have different rules. Regular Social Security retirement benefits can be collected along with unemployment.

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The tricky part is that if you're collecting Social Security and unemployment, you need to be available for work to keep getting UI benefits from Washington ESD. Some people think retirement means you're not available for work, but that's not necessarily true.

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That's a good point. I am actively looking for work and doing my job search activities, so I should be fine there.

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Exactly. As long as you're meeting Washington ESD's work search requirements and truly available for work, you can collect both.

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I'm 65 and went through this exact situation two years ago. The Washington ESD doesn't care if you're getting Social Security - they only care that you're available and looking for work. Social Security doesn't care about your unemployment benefits when calculating your monthly payment.

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Did you have any issues with either agency when you were collecting both?

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No issues at all. Just make sure you report everything correctly on your taxes since both are taxable income.

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One thing to consider is whether taking Social Security early is worth it if you might go back to work. If you earn over the limit while collecting early Social Security, they'll reduce your benefits temporarily.

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What's the earning limit for 2025? I want to make sure I understand this correctly.

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For 2025, if you're under full retirement age, you can earn up to $23,400 per year without affecting your Social Security benefits. Above that, they reduce benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn.

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This is all good info but I'd still recommend talking to someone at Social Security directly. Their rules can be complicated and everyone's situation is different.

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Definitely agree about talking to them directly. That's why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - it's really helpful for getting through to government agencies when you need specific answers about your situation.

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I'll check out that Claimyr service. Getting through to Social Security by phone has been impossible lately.

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Don't forget that your unemployment benefits from Washington ESD will eventually run out (usually 26 weeks max), but Social Security continues for life. That might factor into your decision about when to apply.

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True, I've been on unemployment for about 8 weeks now, so I have roughly 18 weeks left assuming I don't find work before then.

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And remember, even if you find work while collecting Social Security early, the benefits they withhold aren't lost forever - they recalculate and give you higher payments later.

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I hate how confusing all these government programs are. Why can't they just give us straight answers about what affects what?

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Tell me about it! I spent three hours on hold with Social Security last week just to ask a simple question.

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The rules really are unnecessarily complicated. That's why it's worth talking to someone who knows the system inside and out.

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Just to summarize for the original poster: Washington ESD unemployment benefits don't affect your Social Security benefit calculation, you can collect both simultaneously, but both are taxable income. The main consideration is whether taking Social Security early is right for your long-term financial situation.

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This has been incredibly helpful. I think I'll apply for Social Security and continue with my unemployment benefits while I job search.

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Sounds like a good plan. Just make sure you understand the earning limits if you do find work while collecting early Social Security.

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One more thing - make sure Washington ESD has your correct address for the 1099-G form. I moved last year and almost missed mine, which would have been a nightmare at tax time.

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Good reminder! I'll double-check my address in my eServices account.

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You can also access your 1099-G online through the Washington ESD website, which is handy if you need it before the mailed copy arrives.

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Has anyone dealt with this if you have a pension too? I have unemployment, thinking about Social Security, and I have a small pension from my old job.

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Pensions can affect Social Security benefits if you worked for government and didn't pay Social Security taxes on that job. Private pensions usually don't affect Social Security.

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It was a private company pension, so sounds like I should be okay. This stuff is so confusing though.

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I'm bookmarking this thread because I'll probably be in the same situation next year when I turn 62. Really helpful discussion!

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Glad it's helpful for others too! I was really worried about making the wrong decision.

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It's smart to research this stuff ahead of time instead of making hasty decisions when you're already unemployed and stressed.

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Does anyone know if there are any special considerations for people who are close to full retirement age? I'm 66 next month.

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If you're at full retirement age, there's no limit on how much you can earn while collecting Social Security. That makes the decision much easier.

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That's what I thought, but wanted to confirm. Thanks!

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The timing of when you apply for Social Security can make a big difference in your monthly payment. Even a few months can affect your benefit amount.

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How much difference are we talking about? I'm trying to decide whether to apply now or wait.

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It depends on your birth year and full retirement age, but generally you lose about 6-7% per year if you take benefits before full retirement age. But you also get payments sooner, so it's a trade-off.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to get through to Social Security. Worked great - got connected to someone in about 10 minutes instead of waiting hours.

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That's exactly what I need. I've been trying to call them for weeks.

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Yeah, it's a game-changer for dealing with busy government phone lines. Worth checking out their demo video to see how it works.

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Make sure you keep good records of all your unemployment payments. I had to reconstruct mine last year when I couldn't find my 1099-G and it was a pain.

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I've been keeping screenshots of my weekly claim confirmations, but I should probably print them out too.

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You can also download payment history from your Washington ESD account, which is helpful for tax preparation.

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This whole situation is why I wish there was better coordination between government agencies. Having to navigate multiple systems with different rules is exhausting.

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Completely agree. It shouldn't be this complicated to understand how your own benefits work.

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At least forums like this help people share information and figure things out together.

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One last tip - if you do start collecting Social Security, make sure you understand how it might affect your spouse's benefits too, especially if they haven't started collecting yet.

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My wife is 61, so she's not eligible yet. I'll need to research how my decision affects her options.

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Spousal benefits can be complicated, especially with the timing of when each person starts collecting. Definitely worth discussing with Social Security directly.

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I went through this exact situation last year at age 64. Washington ESD unemployment benefits definitely don't affect your Social Security calculation - they're completely separate systems. I collected both for about 4 months while job searching. The key things to remember: 1) Both are taxable income so plan for taxes accordingly, 2) You need to stay available for work to keep getting unemployment, and 3) If you find work while on early Social Security, there are earning limits to consider ($23,400 for 2025). I'd recommend using that Claimyr service others mentioned to get through to Social Security - it really does work better than calling directly. The peace of mind from having both income sources while looking for work was worth it for me.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through it! Four months of collecting both sounds like it gave you good financial stability while job searching. Did you have any issues with Washington ESD when you were also collecting Social Security, or did they not care as long as you were doing your work search activities?

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