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Paolo Rizzo

How does social security affect unemployment benefits in Washington ESD?

I'm 63 and just got laid off from my warehouse job. I've been collecting Social Security early retirement benefits for about 8 months now ($1,847/month). Now I need to file for unemployment through Washington ESD but I'm confused about how my Social Security will affect my UI benefits. Will they reduce my unemployment payments? Do I need to report my Social Security when I file my weekly claims? I've heard conflicting information and want to make sure I don't mess anything up.

Good question! In Washington state, Social Security retirement benefits do NOT reduce your unemployment benefits dollar-for-dollar like some other types of income do. However, you still need to report your Social Security payments when you file your weekly claims through eServices. The Washington ESD system will calculate any necessary adjustments, but typically SS retirement benefits won't completely disqualify you.

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That's a relief! So I should still be eligible for some unemployment benefits even with my Social Security?

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Yes, you should still qualify for some benefits. Just make sure to report everything accurately on your weekly claims to avoid any overpayment issues later.

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wait i thought social security counted as income that would reduce ur benefits?? im so confused about all these rules

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It's confusing because different types of income are treated differently. Wages from work reduce benefits dollar-for-dollar, but Social Security retirement benefits have different rules.

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The Washington ESD website has a chart showing which types of income affect benefits and how. Worth checking out if you're unsure.

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I went through this exact situation last year. You definitely need to report your Social Security on every weekly claim, but in my case it only reduced my unemployment by about $150 per week instead of the full amount. The key is being totally honest about all income sources when you file your initial claim and weekly certifications.

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How much were you getting in unemployment before the Social Security reduction? Trying to estimate what I might qualify for.

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I was eligible for $520/week max but with my SS it came down to around $370/week. Still made a big difference while I was job hunting.

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How much does something like that cost though? I'm already tight on money.

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It's worth it if you really need to talk to someone. Better than spending whole days trying to get through on your own.

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The important thing is that Social Security retirement benefits are treated as 'pension' income under Washington unemployment law. There's a specific formula they use - it's not a straight reduction. Make sure when you file your initial application you select the right category for your SS income.

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What category should I select? I don't want to pick the wrong option and delay my claim.

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Look for 'pension or retirement income' when you're filling out the application. Don't categorize it as regular wages or it will mess up your calculation.

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This whole system is so complicated!! Why can't they just make it simple - if you're unemployed you get benefits, period. All these different rules for different types of income just create more confusion and delays.

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I feel you but there's reasons for these rules. They don't want people double-dipping or getting more in benefits than they made working.

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Still frustrating when you're just trying to survive between jobs

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Are you sure about the Social Security not reducing benefits dollar for dollar? I thought ANY income reduced your weekly benefit amount by the same amount you received.

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No, that's only for wages from employment. Pension income including Social Security has different calculation rules under RCW 50.20.098.

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Exactly right. Work income reduces benefits 1:1, but pension/retirement income has a more complex formula that typically results in smaller reductions.

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Just be super careful about reporting everything correctly. I know someone who didn't report their pension income thinking it wouldn't matter and ended up with a huge overpayment notice months later. The Washington ESD does catch these things eventually.

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How did they find out? Do they cross-check with Social Security records?

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They have ways of checking various databases. Better to be upfront from the beginning than deal with appeals and repayment later.

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this is why i hate dealing with government stuff, too many rules and exceptions to remember

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Yeah but once you understand the basics it's not too bad. The main thing is just being honest about your income sources.

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One more tip - when you're doing your job search requirements, some employers might be hesitant to hire someone already collecting Social Security. Don't let that discourage you, there are still plenty of opportunities out there for experienced workers.

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That's something I hadn't thought about. Do I have to tell potential employers about my Social Security?

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Not unless they ask directly, but some might wonder about your long-term commitment. Just focus on what you can bring to the role.

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The Washington ESD customer service line might be able to give you specific numbers for your situation if you can get through. I used that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier and actually got connected to an agent who walked me through exactly how my pension would affect my benefits.

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That sounds helpful. Did they give you a specific dollar amount or just explain the general process?

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They ran the actual calculation based on my weekly benefit amount and pension income. Made it much clearer than trying to figure it out from the website.

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Remember you'll also need to keep filing your weekly claims on time even with the Social Security income. Missing deadlines can cause more problems than the income reporting itself.

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What day of the week are the weekly claims due? I want to set a reminder.

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You file for the previous week, so if your benefit week ends on Saturday you need to file by the following Saturday. Don't wait until the last minute.

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I'm in a similar boat but with disability benefits instead of SS retirement. Anyone know if those have the same rules or different ones?

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Social Security Disability (SSDI) has different rules than retirement benefits. You'd need to check the specific guidelines for disability income.

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Yeah, disability benefits might have different reporting requirements. Worth calling Washington ESD to clarify.

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At least you have Social Security to fall back on. Some of us are trying to make unemployment stretch with no other income at all.

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I get that it's tough for everyone. I paid into Social Security for 45 years though, so it's not exactly free money.

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We're all dealing with job loss stress. No point in comparing situations - everyone deserves the benefits they've earned.

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Make sure your job search activities meet the requirements too. Sometimes older workers think they get different rules but you still need to do the same number of job contacts per week.

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How many job contacts do I need to do each week? And do they have to be in person or can they be online applications?

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, and online applications count. Keep good records in your WorkSourceWA account.

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If you're still confused about any of this stuff, seriously consider using that calling service I mentioned. When I was dealing with questions about how my pension affected my claim, I spent weeks trying to get through on my own. Claimyr got me connected to an actual person who could look at my specific case.

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Did they actually help you or just transfer you around like usual?

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No, I got connected directly to a claims specialist who could see my account and everything. Made a huge difference.

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The key thing everyone's dancing around is that you WILL get reduced benefits, but not eliminated entirely. Just budget accordingly and don't expect your full unemployment amount.

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Do you know roughly what percentage reduction to expect? Just trying to plan my budget.

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It varies based on your specific benefit amounts, but plan for at least a 25-30% reduction from your maximum weekly benefit.

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Final advice - keep all your Social Security documentation handy when you file. The Washington ESD system might ask for verification of the amounts you're reporting, and having everything ready will speed up the process.

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What kind of documentation do they typically want? My monthly SS statement?

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Yes, your Social Security award letter and recent statements showing the monthly amount. Sometimes they want to see a few months' worth.

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Good luck with everything! The combination of unemployment and Social Security can definitely help bridge the gap while you're looking for work. Just stay on top of all the reporting requirements.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. Feeling much more confident about filing my claim now.

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I just wanted to add that Washington ESD also has a pension offset calculator on their website that can give you a rough estimate of how your Social Security will affect your benefits before you file. It's under the "Calculate Your Benefits" section. Not perfect but gives you a ballpark figure to work with while you're planning your finances during the job search.

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