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Adriana Cohn

Can I get social security and unemployment benefits at the same time in Washington state?

I'm 62 and just got laid off from my warehouse job after 15 years. I was planning to wait until full retirement age to claim social security but now I'm wondering if I can collect both unemployment and social security at the same time? I've heard conflicting information and don't want to mess up either benefit. Has anyone dealt with this situation in Washington state? Do I need to report my social security income to Washington ESD when filing my weekly claims?

Yes, you can collect both Social Security retirement benefits and unemployment benefits in Washington state. However, you need to report your Social Security income when filing your weekly claims with Washington ESD. The Social Security won't reduce your unemployment benefits, but you still have to report it as income.

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That's a relief! Do I report the gross amount or net amount of my Social Security payment?

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Report the gross amount before any deductions. Washington ESD wants to know the full benefit amount you receive each month.

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i'm in the same boat, 63 and collecting both. just make sure you're still actively looking for work because thats still required for unemployment even if you're getting social security

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Good point about the job search requirement. I wasn't sure if that still applied at my age.

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The job search requirement applies to everyone receiving unemployment benefits regardless of age, unless you're on standby with your employer.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this exact question but could never get through to an actual person. The automated system just kept transferring me around in circles. So frustrating when you need a real answer about something this important!

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Never heard of that but I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point. Thanks for the tip!

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The key thing to remember is that Social Security retirement benefits don't count as 'wages' for unemployment purposes in Washington. So it won't reduce your weekly benefit amount like part-time work income would. But you absolutely have to report it when you file your weekly claims or you could face an overpayment situation later.

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That makes sense. I was worried they would reduce my unemployment dollar for dollar.

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Wait, I thought ANY income reduced your unemployment benefits? My friend said his pension reduced his weekly amount.

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Pension income is different from Social Security retirement benefits. Washington ESD treats them differently under state law.

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Just be careful about the timing if you haven't filed for Social Security yet. Once you start collecting early at 62, you're locked into that reduced benefit amount even after you find new work. Make sure the math works out for your situation.

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Good point. I've been going back and forth on whether to file early or wait until full retirement age.

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The break-even point is usually around age 78-80 depending on your benefit amount. If you're in good health and expect to live longer, waiting might be better financially.

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I was in this exact situation last year. Filed for unemployment first, then started Social Security a few months later. Washington ESD was actually pretty helpful when I called to ask about reporting requirements. Just make sure you report it starting from the first week you receive the Social Security payment.

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How long did it take you to get through to Washington ESD when you called?

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This was back in spring 2024 and it took about 45 minutes of waiting on hold, but I eventually got through to someone knowledgeable.

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Don't forget that you'll still need to be able and available for work to qualify for unemployment, even with Social Security. Some people think collecting Social Security means they don't have to actively look for work anymore, but that's not true in Washington state.

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This is important! The 'able and available' requirement doesn't change just because you're collecting Social Security retirement benefits.

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That makes sense. I'm definitely still looking for work, just wasn't sure how the two benefits would interact.

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The Social Security Administration and Washington ESD don't communicate with each other automatically, so you need to report your Social Security income yourself when filing your weekly claims. Don't assume they already know about it.

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This is crucial information. I've seen people get hit with overpayment notices because they assumed the agencies shared information.

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I definitely don't want to deal with an overpayment situation. I'll make sure to report everything accurately.

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Another thing to keep in mind - if you're doing any part-time work while collecting both benefits, you'll need to report those wages too. The earnings from work will reduce your unemployment benefits, but won't affect your Social Security (unless you're under full retirement age and earn over the annual limit).

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I might pick up some part-time work if I can't find full-time employment. Good to know how that would work with both benefits.

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The Social Security earnings test only applies if you're under full retirement age, which is 67 for people born in 1960 or later.

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I've been collecting both for about 6 months now and haven't had any issues. Just be consistent with your reporting and keep good records of all your benefit payments in case Washington ESD ever has questions.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually doing it successfully. I'll definitely keep detailed records.

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Smart advice about keeping records. I learned that the hard way when I had to provide documentation for an audit.

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One more thing - make sure you understand how your Social Security benefit amount is calculated before you file. If you're still working or collecting unemployment, additional earnings might slightly increase your future benefit calculation if you delay filing.

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I hadn't thought about how unemployment benefits might affect my Social Security calculation. Is unemployment income counted for Social Security purposes?

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Unemployment benefits are not subject to Social Security taxes, so they don't count toward your Social Security earnings record.

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The bottom line is that Washington state allows you to collect both benefits simultaneously as long as you meet the requirements for each program and report everything accurately. Just don't let anyone tell you that you can't do both - that's incorrect information.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much more confident about moving forward with both benefits now.

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Good luck with your job search! The combination of both benefits should help you take your time finding the right position.

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I'm always skeptical of these third-party services, but honestly Washington ESD's phone system is so bad that I might have to try it.

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I was skeptical too, but when you really need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about important benefit questions, it's worth the convenience.

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Remember that your unemployment benefits are taxable income, and so is your Social Security if your total income exceeds certain thresholds. Make sure you plan for the tax implications of collecting both benefits.

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Good point about taxes. I should probably set aside money for taxes on both benefits.

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You can request federal tax withholding on both your unemployment and Social Security benefits to avoid a big tax bill next year.

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Final tip - when you're filing your weekly claims, there's a specific question about retirement benefits. Make sure you answer it accurately and include your monthly Social Security amount divided by 4.33 to get the weekly amount to report.

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That's a helpful calculation tip. I was wondering how to convert my monthly Social Security to a weekly amount for reporting.

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The 4.33 divisor accounts for the fact that there are 4.33 weeks in an average month. Washington ESD uses this standard calculation.

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I just want to emphasize how important it is to be completely transparent with Washington ESD about your Social Security benefits from day one. I've seen too many people get into trouble thinking they could figure it out later or that "it's not that much money anyway." Even if you're only getting a small Social Security payment, you need to report it. The penalties for not reporting income can be severe - they can make you pay back all the unemployment benefits you received, plus interest and fees. It's just not worth the risk when being honest upfront is so much easier.

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Absolutely this! I learned this lesson the hard way with a different state agency years ago. It's always better to over-report than under-report. Washington ESD would much rather you report something you weren't sure about than find out later you didn't report something you should have. The transparency approach saves so much stress and potential financial headaches down the road.

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This is such crucial advice! I've been hesitant about filing for Social Security because I wasn't sure how it would complicate my unemployment claim, but you're absolutely right that transparency is key. Better to report everything upfront and let Washington ESD sort it out than risk having to pay back benefits later. The peace of mind alone is worth it. Thanks for sharing this perspective - it really helps put things in the right priority order.

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I'm in a similar situation at 64 - got laid off from manufacturing after 20 years and trying to figure out the best approach. From what I've read here, it sounds like collecting both is definitely allowed in Washington, but I'm still nervous about making sure I do everything correctly. The reporting requirements seem straightforward enough, but I'm wondering if there are any other gotchas I should watch out for? Also, has anyone had experience with how this affects your job search strategy? I'm worried that potential employers might see me as less motivated if they know I'm collecting Social Security, even though I genuinely want to keep working for several more years.

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