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Diego Chavez

Can you get social security and unemployment at the same time in Washington ESD?

I'm 63 and just got laid off from my job at a manufacturing plant. I was planning to wait until full retirement age to claim social security, but now I'm wondering if I can collect both unemployment benefits from Washington ESD and social security at the same time? I've been working for 40+ years and really need the income while I look for another job. Has anyone been in this situation before? I don't want to mess up either benefit by applying for the wrong thing.

Yes you can collect both! I'm 64 and have been getting both unemployment and social security for the past 6 months. The key thing is that Washington ESD doesn't reduce your unemployment benefits because you're getting social security. They're separate programs with different eligibility requirements.

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That's such a relief to hear! Did you have any problems when you applied for unemployment? I'm worried they'll ask about my social security income.

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Nope, no problems at all. Just make sure you report your social security income when they ask about other income sources on your weekly claims.

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Yes, you can receive both Social Security and unemployment benefits at the same time in Washington state! The key thing is that Social Security doesn't consider unemployment benefits as earnings, so it won't affect your Social Security payments. However, you still need to meet all the regular Washington ESD requirements - be able and available for work, actively seeking employment, etc.

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That's such a relief to hear! Do I need to report my Social Security income when I file my weekly claims with Washington ESD?

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No, you don't need to report Social Security retirement benefits on your weekly claims. Only report wages from actual work.

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I'm in almost the exact same boat - 64, getting SS, and just filed for unemployment after getting let go. Washington ESD approved my claim with no issues. The only thing that matters is that you're genuinely looking for work and available to work despite getting Social Security.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about the adjudication process taking forever.

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Mine took about 2 weeks, but I had a pretty straightforward case. No issues with my last employer or anything complicated.

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Just want to add that while Washington state allows this, you need to be careful about the 'able and available' requirement. If you're collecting Social Security retirement, Washington ESD might scrutinize whether you're truly available for full-time work. Make sure you can demonstrate you're actively job searching and would accept suitable work if offered.

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Good point. I'm definitely planning to work until I'm at least 67, so I'm genuinely looking for another job. Should I mention this in my application?

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Yes, definitely emphasize your availability and willingness to work in your application. Keep good records of your job search activities too.

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Wait I thought there were restrictions on this? My neighbor said something about earnings limits affecting social security if you're under full retirement age.

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Your neighbor is thinking of the social security earnings test, which only applies to WORK earnings, not unemployment benefits. Unemployment doesn't count as earnings for social security purposes.

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Oh that makes sense, thanks for clarifying that!

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I was in the exact same boat last year at 62. Filed for both and had no issues. The Washington ESD representatives I talked to said it's pretty common for people our age. Just be honest about all income sources when filing your weekly claims.

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wait i thought if you were getting any kind of government benefits you couldn't get unemployment too? this is confusing

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Social Security retirement benefits are different from other government benefits. They're based on your work history and contributions, not need-based assistance.

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oh ok that makes sense i guess. so its not like welfare or food stamps

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just make sure you meet the job search requirements for unemployment even if your getting social security. they still expect you to be actively looking for work

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Good point about the job search requirements. Do they have any special considerations for older workers like us?

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The job search requirements are the same regardless of age. You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep a log of your activities. WorkSourceWA.com has resources specifically for older workers though.

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Be careful about timing though. If you're already getting social security, make sure you understand how much you can earn from a new job without affecting your benefits. The earnings test is something like $22,320 for 2025 if you're under full retirement age.

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Thanks for mentioning that! I hadn't thought about what happens when I do find a new job.

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Yeah it's important to plan ahead. Once you find work, your unemployment stops obviously, but you want to make sure the new job doesn't push you over the social security earnings limit.

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Another question - will receiving unemployment affect my Social Security benefits in any way? Like could it trigger a review or anything?

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No, unemployment benefits won't affect your Social Security retirement benefits at all. They're completely separate systems.

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The system is so confusing!! I'm 61 and considering early retirement because I can't figure out all these rules. Social security, unemployment, 401k withdrawals - it's like they designed it to be impossible to understand.

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I totally understand the frustration, but don't give up! It's worth taking the time to understand your options. You might be leaving money on the table by retiring early.

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You're probably right. I just wish there was somewhere to get clear answers about all this stuff.

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Consider meeting with a financial advisor or contacting SHIBA (Statewide Health Insurance Benefits Advisors) - they help with Medicare and related retirement planning questions for free.

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I'm dealing with this right now too. Filed for unemployment 2 weeks ago and my claim is still in adjudication. Getting really nervous about whether having social security will complicate things.

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Adjudication delays are pretty common right now, and it's usually not related to your social security income. Most likely they're just verifying your work history or separation reason.

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I hope you're right. The waiting is killing me financially.

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Does anyone know if the amount of your social security affects your unemployment eligibility? Like if you're getting a really high social security payment?

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No, the amount of your social security doesn't affect your unemployment eligibility at all. Washington ESD determines your benefit amount based on your work history and wages, not on other income you might have.

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That's good to know, thanks!

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What about if you're on disability social security instead of retirement? Does that change anything?

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That's a completely different situation. If you're receiving SSDI (disability), you generally can't collect unemployment because unemployment requires that you be able and available for work, which conflicts with being disabled.

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Ah okay, that makes sense. Good thing I'm just on regular retirement social security then.

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Been collecting both for 8 months now with zero issues. The key is just being upfront about everything when you file. Don't try to hide anything because they'll find out anyway and that could cause problems.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Makes me feel much better about applying.

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You'll be fine. Just remember to keep doing your weekly claims on time and report everything accurately.

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I was in this situation last year. Filed for unemployment while getting Social Security and had no problems. The only thing is you have to be realistic about the jobs you're applying for - can't just apply to jobs you know you won't get hired for because of age.

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That's a good point about age discrimination. Did you have any trouble finding suitable work to apply for?

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It was challenging, but I focused on part-time positions and contract work that valued experience. Eventually found something that worked.

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I tried calling Washington ESD to ask about this exact question and spent 3 hours on hold before getting disconnected. The phone system is absolutely terrible.

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Same experience here! I've probably wasted 20+ hours trying to get through to someone. It's ridiculous.

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I might have to look into that service. This is too stressful to deal with on my own.

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Just make sure you keep detailed records of your job search activities! Washington ESD can audit your job search log at any time, and you need to show you're genuinely looking for work.

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How many jobs do I need to apply for each week? I know there's a minimum requirement.

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It's 3 job search activities per week minimum, but applying for jobs is just one type of activity. Networking, attending job fairs, etc. also count.

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section about this under their eligibility requirements. Might want to check that out for the official word.

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I looked at their website but it's not super clear about the Social Security situation specifically. That's why I asked here.

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Quick question - do you have to pay taxes on both unemployment and social security?

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Yes, both are taxable income. You can choose to have taxes withheld from your unemployment benefits, which I'd recommend if you're getting both. Otherwise you might owe a lot at tax time.

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Good point about the withholding. I'll make sure to set that up.

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I'm 65 and was worried about the same thing when I got laid off from my manufacturing job. Turns out there's no conflict at all. Filed my claim online and started receiving benefits within 3 weeks. The key is just being honest about your situation and showing you're actively looking for work.

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That's encouraging! Did you have any issues during the adjudication process?

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No issues at all. I think being upfront about everything from the start helped avoid any complications.

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My brother is 65 and just got laid off. He's been getting social security for a year already. Should he bother applying for unemployment or is it not worth the hassle?

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Definitely worth applying! Even if he's getting social security, unemployment benefits can provide significant additional income while he looks for work. Why leave money on the table?

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True, every bit helps. I'll tell him to go ahead and apply.

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you do find work, any wages you earn could potentially affect your Social Security benefits depending on how much you make. But unemployment benefits themselves won't.

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Right, I know about the earnings test for Social Security. That's actually part of why I want to find part-time work rather than full-time.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm on a tight budget with just Social Security and unemployment.

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It's really reasonable considering how much time and frustration it saves. Way better than spending hours trying to get through on your own.

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The system is so messed up that people our age have to jump through all these hoops just to get benefits we paid into our whole working lives!

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I feel you on that frustration, but at least Washington state does allow us to collect both. Some states make it much harder.

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Quick question - do you have to report your Social Security amount anywhere in the Washington ESD system, or just ignore it completely?

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You don't report Social Security retirement benefits anywhere in the Washington ESD system. Only report actual wages from work.

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Perfect, thanks for clarifying that!

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I'm curious how this works with taxes. Do you get taxed on both the Social Security and unemployment benefits?

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Yes, unemployment benefits are fully taxable as income. Social Security may or may not be taxable depending on your total income. You should consult a tax professional about your specific situation.

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My neighbor is in the same situation and she's been collecting both for 6 months now with no problems. She said the hardest part was just figuring out she could do it in the first place.

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Yeah, there's definitely not a lot of clear information out there about this situation. I'm glad I asked here!

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For what it's worth, I tried using that Claimyr service someone mentioned and it actually worked really well. Got connected to a Washington ESD rep in about 20 minutes instead of the usual hours of calling. The video demo they have explains it pretty clearly.

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Good to hear multiple people confirming it works. I might try it if I run into issues with my claim.

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Just make sure you keep track of all your job applications and networking activities. Washington ESD takes the work search requirement seriously, even for us older folks collecting Social Security.

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Definitely will do. I've already started a spreadsheet to track everything.

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Smart approach! That'll make your life much easier if they ever audit your claim.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much more confident about filing my claim now. It's nice to know other people have been through this successfully.

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You're welcome! Good luck with your claim and job search. Feel free to ask if you have more questions.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences.

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The whole process seems overwhelming. I'm 62 and just lost my job but I'm scared I'll mess something up and lose benefits I'm entitled to.

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I totally understand that fear, but the process is more straightforward than it seems. The Washington ESD website walks you through everything step by step.

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I guess I just need to bite the bullet and start the application. Thanks for the encouragement.

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you find a new job, you'll need to stop filing for unemployment immediately. Don't try to collect both work wages and unemployment - that's fraud.

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Good reminder! I definitely don't want to get in trouble for doing something wrong.

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Exactly. Better to be overly cautious than to accidentally commit fraud.

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Has anyone had their unemployment reduced because of social security income? I keep seeing conflicting information online.

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No, Washington state does not reduce unemployment benefits based on social security income. Some states do, but Washington doesn't. Your unemployment amount is based solely on your previous work wages.

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That's a relief! Thanks for the clarification.

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For what it's worth, I'm 66 and have been collecting both for almost a year. Never had any issues or conflicts between the two programs. They really are completely separate systems.

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Thanks for sharing! All these positive experiences are really reassuring.

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Happy to help. Good luck with your application!

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Just want to add that you should also look into whether you qualify for any other programs like SNAP or utility assistance while you're between jobs. Every bit of help makes a difference at our age.

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Good suggestion! I hadn't thought about other assistance programs.

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211 is a great resource - just dial 2-1-1 and they can connect you with local assistance programs.

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