


Ask the community...
Bottom line - don't expect unemployment to replace your full income. Plan for getting maybe 40-50% of what you were making and budget accordingly. And start looking for work immediately because the job search requirements are real.
Just wanted to add that the calculation can be even more confusing if you had multiple jobs or irregular hours. I was working two part-time jobs when I got laid off from one, and figuring out which quarters counted and how the wages were reported took forever. The ESD system doesn't always make it clear how they're counting wages from different employers. If you have a complex work history, definitely try to get someone on the phone to walk through it with you.
While you're working on your appeal, don't forget to keep applying for jobs and doing your job search activities. If you win the appeal, you'll need to show you were meeting the job search requirements for all those weeks to get paid for them. The system is definitely frustrating, but staying on top of all the requirements will help if you eventually win.
I'm really sorry you're dealing with this financial stress on top of an unfair decision. One thing I wanted to add - when you're writing your Petition for Review, make sure to cite specific WAC sections that support your case. For example, if this was a misconduct case, WAC 192-150-200 outlines what constitutes misconduct and the burden of proof requirements. Also, if your employer gave contradictory statements between what they told ESD initially versus their hearing testimony, that's a huge point in your favor. The Commissioner's office takes inconsistent employer testimony very seriously. Keep your chin up - the fact that you have documented evidence and clear employer contradictions gives you a much stronger case than many people who appeal. Focus on the legal errors and factual inconsistencies rather than the emotional impact (as hard as that is), and you'll have the best shot at success.
This is really helpful advice about citing specific WAC sections! I'm new to all this legal stuff but I'm learning fast out of necessity. Do you happen to know if there's a specific format I should follow when citing those WAC sections in my petition? I want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly since this feels like my last real chance to get this overturned. The employer contradictions are definitely my strongest point - they literally said one thing to ESD initially and then completely changed their story during the hearing when they realized their first version didn't support a misconduct finding.
Update: I FINALLY got through to ESD this morning after trying for 4 days straight! Turns out I do have an overpayment from 2021. They said I reported my hours incorrectly for 8 weeks during the pandemic (although I'm positive I entered everything correctly). Total overpayment is $2,450 and they're taking 30% of each payment until it's paid off. They're supposed to be sending me the full documentation in the mail. At least now I know what I'm dealing with, though I'm definitely going to appeal this since I don't think I made any mistakes on my claims.
Glad you got answers! Important note about appeals - you normally have only 30 days from the date of the original overpayment notice to file an appeal. Since you never received that notice, you should request that they reset the appeal timeline based on the date you were actually notified (today). Make this request in writing ASAP and keep documentation of it. When you receive the paperwork, check carefully for any calculations about your reported hours vs. what your employer reported - that's often where the discrepancies occur.
This is such a widespread issue right now! I'm a newcomer to this community but dealing with the exact same problem. ESD just took $380 from my benefits last week with zero explanation. I collected pandemic unemployment in 2020 when my restaurant job was eliminated, and I was so careful to report everything correctly because I was terrified of making mistakes. Now they're saying I owe money but won't tell me why or how much total. Reading through everyone's experiences here is both reassuring (I'm not alone) and terrifying (some of you owe thousands!). Going to try calling that collections number tomorrow and also look into the Claimyr service someone mentioned. Thanks for sharing your stories - it helps to know others are fighting this too.
Welcome to the community, Diego! Sorry you're dealing with this nightmare too. The $380 they took from you is really significant - I totally understand the fear of not knowing the total amount. From what I've learned here, definitely try that collections number (1-866-697-4831) that Javier mentioned, and document everything in writing about not receiving proper notice. It seems like so many of us pandemic claimants are getting hit all at once. Keep us posted on what you find out - your experience might help others who are just discovering these surprise deductions. We're all in this together!
Reading all this makes me realize how broken the system is. We shouldn't have to spend weeks of our lives just trying to talk to someone about our own benefits.
Agreed, the system definitely needs reform. In the meantime though, people still need to get their issues resolved somehow.
Exactly why services like that Claimyr thing exist - to work around a broken system that should be fixed but isn't.
I'm dealing with the exact same nightmare - been calling for 3 weeks straight about my identity verification that's been stuck since March. The 3-hour automatic disconnect is the worst part because you invest all that time just to get cut off and have to start over. I've started using multiple phones to call simultaneously and keeping detailed logs of my attempts. It's absolutely ridiculous that we have to treat getting basic government services like it's some kind of game show. The system is clearly not designed to actually help people who need it.
The multiple phones strategy is actually genius - why didn't I think of that? I've been wasting so much time with just one phone. Do you call the same number on all phones or try different numbers? And yeah, that 3-hour disconnect feels like they're actively trying to prevent us from getting help. It's like they designed the worst possible system on purpose.
Identity verification stuck since MARCH?? That's absolutely insane! I thought my 2+ weeks was bad but you've been waiting months. The multiple phone strategy is smart though - I might try that too. Have you gotten any response at all from the online messaging system or is that just as useless as the phones? This whole thing is making me lose faith in the system entirely.
Miranda Singer
Just wanted to add that you also need to keep track of your job search activities even while working part-time. Don't skip the work search requirements just because you have some income coming in.
0 coins
Cass Green
•Good reminder! I almost forgot about that requirement when I was working part-time.
0 coins
Chris Elmeda
•Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much more confident about filing my claim now.
0 coins
Edison Estevez
Just want to emphasize how important it is to report your part-time earnings correctly from the very beginning. When you file your weekly claims, make sure to report the gross amount you earned for the week you actually worked (not when you received payment). Washington ESD's system will automatically calculate your partial benefit using their formula. I've seen people get confused about reporting timing, but it's always based on when you performed the work. Also keep all your pay stubs and records - you might need them later if ESD has any questions about your reported earnings.
0 coins
Dylan Cooper
•This is really helpful advice about the timing of reporting earnings! I was wondering about that exact issue - whether to report based on when I worked or when I got paid. Keeping detailed records sounds smart too, especially with all the stories about people having to prove their earnings later. Do you know if there's any grace period if you accidentally report something incorrectly, or does Washington ESD come down hard on any mistakes?
0 coins