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Wishing you the best with this situation. It's never easy when employers make these kinds of decisions that force employees to choose between their job and their life circumstances.
I went through a similar situation about 8 months ago when my employer relocated from Bellevue to Yakima. The key thing that helped my case was creating a detailed cost-benefit analysis showing not just the time impact (my commute would have gone from 45 minutes to 3+ hours each way) but also the financial burden - gas, vehicle wear, potential lodging costs, etc. I calculated that the new commute would have cost me nearly $800 more per month and 25+ hours of additional drive time per week. Washington ESD approved my claim in about 2 weeks once I provided all the documentation. Your 4-hour each way situation is even more extreme, so you should have a strong case as long as you document everything thoroughly. Make sure to include any family obligations or other factors that make the move unreasonable for your specific situation.
That's really helpful to know about the cost-benefit analysis approach! I hadn't thought about breaking down all the financial impacts like that. $800 more per month is huge - that would probably eat up a significant portion of someone's take-home pay. Did you use any specific format or template for calculating those costs, or just create your own breakdown? I want to make sure I'm being thorough with my documentation.
One thing that helped me was creating a strict budget and cutting out everything non-essential while on unemployment. Every dollar counts when you're getting that little. Also check if your utilities have low-income assistance programs.
That's good advice. I probably need to sit down and really look at what I can cut from my budget. I've been avoiding it because I don't want to face how bad it is.
I'm in a similar situation - getting $340/week from Washington ESD and my rent alone is $1,350. It's really frustrating because I paid into this system for years thinking it would actually help if I ever needed it. Now I'm having to choose between paying rent and buying groceries. The whole thing feels broken when you can't even afford basic necessities while actively looking for work. Has anyone had luck finding roommates or other ways to reduce housing costs while on unemployment?
I feel you on this - the system really does feel broken when you've been paying into it and then can't survive on what you get back. For roommates, I've had some luck with Facebook groups for my city and also Craigslist, though you have to be careful about scams. Some people post specifically looking for someone who lost their job and needs a temporary situation. Also check if your area has any housing assistance programs - some places have emergency rental help for people on unemployment. It sucks that we have to jump through all these hoops just to afford basic housing.
I'm going through the exact same thing right now - got laid off from my retail job and only getting $285 a week which doesn't even cover half my rent. It's so stressful trying to job hunt when you're worried about keeping a roof over your head. I've been looking into getting a roommate too but it's hard to find someone reliable on short notice. Have you tried any of the emergency rental assistance programs people mentioned earlier in this thread? I'm planning to apply for those and SNAP benefits this week. We shouldn't have to live like this after paying into the system for years.
I just remembered something important - if you win your appeal, you'll get backpay for all the weeks you were eligible but denied! Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while waiting for your appeal hearing. If you stop filing weekly claims, you won't get paid for those weeks even if you win the appeal. I made this mistake and lost out on like $2,600 in benefits.
I'm going through a similar situation right now - was denied for "policy violation" at my workplace where the same policy was completely ignored by everyone including supervisors. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! A few things I learned from my research that might help you: 1. Document EVERYTHING - I wish I had started keeping a log of policy violations I witnessed much earlier 2. The timing of your union grievance vs termination is huge - that's going to be very compelling evidence of retaliation 3. Get your witnesses to write down specific incidents with dates if possible, even if they can't testify live I'm still early in my appeal process but seeing so many people win these cases gives me hope. The selective enforcement angle seems to be the key factor that wins these hearings. Keep us posted on how your hearing goes - there are clearly a lot of people dealing with similar issues who could benefit from hearing about your experience!
Your research points are spot on! I'm also dealing with a similar selective enforcement issue at my workplace and this whole thread has been a goldmine of information. The documentation piece is so important - I started keeping a detailed log after reading these comments and I'm already up to 8 specific incidents where the same "rule" I allegedly broke was ignored for others. The retaliation angle with the union grievance timing really does seem like it could be the smoking gun in your case @Taylor Chen. That's such obvious retaliation that even ESD should see through their excuse. Has anyone here had success getting written statements from coworkers who were too nervous to testify live? Some of my former colleagues are worried about speaking up since they still work there, but they might be willing to provide written testimony.
I feel your pain completely! I just went through this exact same nightmare two weeks ago. What finally worked for me was a combination of the early morning calling (7:58am sharp) and also trying the Spanish language option first, then asking to be transferred to English-speaking support. Sounds weird but the Spanish queue was way shorter. Also, if you have a smartphone, try calling from a landline instead - I read somewhere that their system prioritizes certain phone types differently. Don't give up! I know it's incredibly frustrating when you're dealing with bills and need answers, but based on what everyone here is sharing, persistence really does pay off eventually.
That's such a clever workaround with the Spanish language option! I never would have thought of that. And the landline tip is interesting too - I've only been using my cell phone. I actually have an old landline that still works, so I'll definitely try that tomorrow morning along with the 7:58am timing everyone's mentioning. Thanks for sharing what worked for you - it really helps to know there's light at the end of this tunnel!
I'm going through this exact same thing right now! Been trying for over a week and getting nowhere. Reading through all these responses is actually giving me hope though. I'm definitely going to try the 7:58am calling strategy tomorrow morning with the option 2-1-3 sequence that @Natasha Romanova mentioned. Also really intrigued by the Spanish language queue trick - that's brilliant problem solving! Has anyone tried reaching out through social media? Sometimes companies respond faster on Twitter when you publicly mention the issue. Either way, it's reassuring to know I'm not alone in this struggle and that people are actually getting through eventually. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and tips!
Freya Johansen
Just to wrap this up with the key points: 1) Reduced hours due to lack of work = likely eligible, 2) Report all earnings honestly on weekly claims, 3) Keep doing job searches, 4) File every week even if you think you won't get paid, 5) Keep good records. The system is designed to help people in exactly your situation, so don't hesitate to use it.
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Ravi Choudhury
•Perfect summary! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about filing now.
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CosmosCaptain
•Glad we could help! Partial unemployment can be confusing at first but it's a great safety net while you're dealing with reduced hours.
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Justin Chang
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also check if your employer offers any work-sharing programs before filing for partial unemployment. Some companies in Washington participate in SharedWork programs where they can reduce everyone's hours instead of laying people off, and the state supplements your reduced wages. It might be worth asking your manager about this option - it could benefit both you and your coworkers who are also dealing with reduced hours. If that's not available, then definitely go ahead with the partial unemployment claim as everyone else has suggested!
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QuantumQuester
•This is really valuable information about SharedWork programs! I had no idea this was even an option. Given that my manager mentioned business is slow and they can't give anyone full hours right now, this could actually be perfect for our situation. I'm going to bring this up with my manager tomorrow and see if they'd be interested in looking into it. Even if they're not able to set it up quickly, I can still file for partial unemployment in the meantime. Thanks for mentioning this - it's exactly the kind of alternative solution I didn't know existed!
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Emma Davis
•I actually participated in a SharedWork program at my previous job during the 2020 slowdown and it worked really well. The process took about 2-3 weeks for our employer to get approved, but once it was set up, we all had our hours reduced by 20% and got unemployment benefits to make up most of the difference. The nice thing was that everyone kept their health insurance and other benefits since we were all still technically employed full-time. Your manager would need to submit a plan showing how many employees would be affected and for how long, but Washington ESD was pretty responsive when businesses were struggling. Definitely worth suggesting, especially since it sounds like multiple people at your store are in the same boat!
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