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Ethan Brown

Can you draw unemployment if your on social security - Washington ESD question

I'm 63 and have been collecting social security for about 8 months now. I was working part time at a retail job to supplement my income but got laid off last week due to store closure. Can I still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD while receiving social security? I'm confused about whether these two programs conflict with each other or if there are any restrictions I need to know about.

Yes, you can collect both social security and unemployment benefits at the same time in Washington state. They're considered separate programs and don't offset each other. You'll need to report your social security income when you file your weekly claims though.

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Thank you! Do I report the full amount of my social security or just a portion of it?

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You report the full gross amount before any deductions. Washington ESD needs to know about all income sources.

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I'm in a similar situation - been on social security for 2 years and just lost my part-time job. The tricky part is meeting the job search requirements when you're older. Some employers aren't exactly jumping to hire someone in their 60s.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Are the job search requirements the same for everyone regardless of age?

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Unfortunately yes, you still need to do 3 job search activities per week and register with WorkSourceWA. It's frustrating but that's the rule.

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wait i thought social security counted as income and would reduce your unemployment benefits? thats what happened to my neighbor in oregon

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That might be true in Oregon, but Washington state doesn't count social security as income that reduces UI benefits. Each state has different rules.

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oh ok good to know! washington seems more generous than other states

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One thing to be aware of - if you're collecting social security retirement benefits, you might have earnings limits from the Social Security Administration side. In 2025, if you're under full retirement age, you can only earn $23,400 before they start reducing your social security benefits. Unemployment counts as earnings for this purpose.

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Oh no, I didn't think about that! I'm not at full retirement age yet. So unemployment benefits could affect my social security?

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Yes, unemployment benefits count toward the earnings limit for social security purposes. You'll want to calculate if the unemployment benefits plus any other earnings would put you over the limit.

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This is why I hate dealing with government programs. Everything affects everything else and nobody tells you upfront!

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I went through this exact situation last year. Filed for unemployment while on social security and it was approved no problem. Just make sure when you're doing your weekly claims that you report your social security income accurately. The Washington ESD system will ask for it.

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Did you have any issues with the job search requirements? I'm worried about finding work at my age.

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The job search part was definitely challenging. I ended up doing a lot of online applications and attending virtual job fairs through WorkSourceWA. It took me about 4 months to find something.

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Mei Liu

My mom was in this situation and had to call Washington ESD multiple times to get clarification on reporting her social security. The phone lines are always busy though.

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The phone situation is ridiculous. I've been trying to call for weeks about my claim issues.

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Mei Liu

I'll have to tell my mom about that. She's been so frustrated trying to get through.

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Just to clarify - are we talking about social security retirement benefits or social security disability? I think the rules might be different.

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I'm on social security retirement benefits, not disability.

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Ok good, the rules are clearer for retirement benefits. With disability it gets more complicated because of work restrictions.

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I collect both and have been for about 6 months now. No issues from Washington ESD side at all. Just be honest about your social security income when you file your weekly claims and you'll be fine.

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That's reassuring! Did you have to provide any special documentation when you first applied?

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Nope, just the standard stuff - your work history, reason for separation, etc. They didn't ask for any social security paperwork.

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The key thing is that Washington doesn't have a pension offset like some states do. Your social security won't reduce your unemployment dollar for dollar, which is nice.

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Finally something that makes sense! Most government programs seem designed to screw you over.

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Washington is actually pretty reasonable compared to other states I've lived in. Still bureaucratic but not as punitive.

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Question though - if you're getting social security, why do you need to work? Isn't that enough to live on?

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Social security alone isn't enough to cover all my expenses unfortunately. That's why I was working part-time.

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A lot of us older folks are in the same boat. Social security doesn't go as far as it used to.

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That's rough. I didn't realize how tight things could be on just social security.

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Make sure you understand the difference between reporting social security vs. reporting pension income. They're handled differently on the weekly claim forms.

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I only have social security, no pension. So I just report that in the 'other income' section?

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Yes, social security goes in the other income section. Pensions have their own section and different rules.

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been there done that. collected both for almost a year before i found another job. no problems at all from washington esd. just be prepared for the job search requirements to be a pain at our age

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Any tips for the job search requirements? I'm dreading that part.

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online applications count, so does attending job fairs even if theyre virtual. also registering with staffing agencies counts as a job search activity

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I had to call Washington ESD three times to get a straight answer about this when I was in your situation. Each person told me something slightly different until I finally got someone who knew what they were talking about.

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That's so typical. The inconsistency is maddening.

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I wish I had known about that service back then. Would have saved me a lot of frustration.

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Don't forget you'll need to pay taxes on both your unemployment and social security benefits. Might want to consider having taxes withheld from your UI payments.

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Oh good point! I forgot about the tax implications. Can I elect to have taxes taken out of my unemployment benefits?

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Yes, you can elect to have 10% federal tax withheld when you file your initial claim or change it later.

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As someone who works in HR, I can confirm that age discrimination is real even though it's illegal. Document everything during your job search in case you need it for your unemployment claim.

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What kind of documentation should I keep?

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Keep records of all applications, any responses you get, and notes about interviews. Washington ESD might ask for proof of your job search activities.

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The good news is that Washington state is pretty senior-friendly compared to other places. Age discrimination laws are better enforced here.

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That's encouraging. I've been worried about finding work at 65.

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There are also programs through WorkSourceWA specifically for older workers. Worth looking into.

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Quick question - if your social security gets reduced because of the earnings limit, does that affect your unemployment eligibility?

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No, they're separate programs. If Social Security reduces your benefits due to earnings, it doesn't impact your unemployment eligibility.

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Good to know. This stuff is so confusing when you're dealing with multiple government programs.

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I've been collecting both for 8 months now without any issues. The key is just being upfront about everything when you file your claims. Don't try to hide the social security income - it's not going to hurt your unemployment benefits anyway.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I feel much better about filing my claim now.

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You'll do fine. The Washington ESD system is pretty straightforward once you get used to it.

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I'm in a very similar situation - 64 years old, been on social security for about a year, and just got laid off from my part-time retail job due to company downsizing. Reading through all these responses has been really helpful! I had no idea that Washington was so reasonable about letting you collect both benefits. In my previous state (Arizona), there were more restrictions. One thing I'd add is that you should also check if your former employer offers any severance or WARN Act benefits - that could affect your unemployment timing. Also, for those worried about job searching at our age, I've found that focusing on companies that specifically value experienced workers (like Home Depot, Walmart, or some healthcare support roles) can be more productive than applying everywhere. Good luck Ethan!

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