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Ravi Choudhury

Can you draw unemployment if you are on social security in Washington?

I'm 64 and currently receiving Social Security retirement benefits. I was working part-time at a retail job to supplement my income but got laid off last week due to store closure. Can I still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD while receiving Social Security? I'm confused about whether these two benefits conflict with each other or if there are any restrictions I should know about.

Yes, you can receive both Social Security and unemployment benefits in Washington state. They're separate programs and don't directly conflict. However, your Social Security benefits won't be reduced, but your unemployment benefits might be affected depending on your total weekly earnings from Social Security.

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That's a relief! Do I need to report my Social Security income when I file my weekly claims with Washington ESD?

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Yes, you'll need to report any Social Security income on your weekly claims. Washington ESD will calculate how it affects your unemployment benefit amount.

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I'm in a similar situation but haven't been able to get through to anyone at Washington ESD to ask about this. Their phone lines are always busy and I've been trying for days. This is so frustrating when you just need basic information about filing.

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Never heard of that but I'll definitely check it out. Anything is better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.

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The key thing to understand is that Washington ESD looks at your total weekly income from all sources, including Social Security. If your combined income exceeds your weekly benefit amount plus the earnings disregard, your UI benefits will be reduced or eliminated for that week.

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What's the earnings disregard amount? I get about $1,200 per month in Social Security.

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The earnings disregard changes periodically, but it's currently around $200 per week. So if your weekly Social Security amount plus any other income exceeds your unemployment benefit plus $200, your UI will be reduced.

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Wait, so if I get $300/week in Social Security and my unemployment benefit is $400/week, I'd still get some unemployment? That doesn't sound right.

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Been there! I was on Social Security disability and working part-time when I got laid off. Filed for unemployment without any issues. The main thing is being honest about all your income sources when you file your weekly claims.

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Did you have any problems during the application process? I'm worried about getting flagged for something.

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No problems at all. Just make sure you report everything accurately and respond quickly if they ask for any documentation.

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This whole system is so confusing! Why can't they just have clear information about this stuff on their website? I shouldn't have to hunt around forums to find out if I can even apply.

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The information is there, but it's buried in their handbook. Most people find it easier to just call and ask, but that's its own challenge with the phone system.

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Well calling doesn't work either when you can't get through to anyone!

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How much does that service cost? I'm already tight on money since getting laid off.

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My neighbor is 67 and gets both Social Security and unemployment. She said the hardest part was proving she was actively looking for work since some employers assume older workers aren't serious about finding jobs.

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That's a good point. Do the job search requirements change if you're receiving Social Security?

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No, same requirements apply. You still need to make your job contacts and log them in WorkSourceWA.

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Exactly right. Age doesn't change the work search requirements. You still need to make at least 3 job contacts per week and maintain your job search log.

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I'm confused about something - if you're already getting Social Security retirement, why would you still be looking for work? Isn't that kind of contradictory?

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Social Security retirement doesn't pay enough to live on for most people. I was working part-time to make ends meet, which is pretty common.

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Lots of people work while receiving Social Security retirement. The system allows it and even encourages it to some extent.

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I guess that makes sense. I didn't realize Social Security payments were so low that people still needed to work.

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Just wanted to add that you should definitely apply if you're eligible. Don't let the paperwork intimidate you. The worst they can do is say no, but if you were working and paying into the system, you probably qualify.

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You're right. I've been overthinking this. I'll start the application process this weekend.

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Good luck! Remember to keep all your documentation organized in case they ask for additional information.

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One thing to watch out for - make sure you understand how your Social Security income is calculated on a weekly basis. Sometimes monthly amounts don't divide evenly and it can affect your UI calculation.

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What do you mean by that? I get the same amount every month.

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Right, but Washington ESD calculates everything weekly. So if you get $1,200 monthly, that's $300 per week for their purposes, but some months have more weeks than others.

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That's a good point. They use a standardized weekly calculation to avoid confusion with varying month lengths.

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Does anyone know if Social Security disability is treated differently than retirement benefits for unemployment purposes?

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Social Security disability can be more complicated because you have to prove you're able and available for work, which might seem contradictory to receiving disability benefits.

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That makes sense. I imagine that would require additional documentation.

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I'm definitely going to try it next time I need to reach them. Thanks for mentioning it!

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Quick question - do you still have to do the waiting week if you're already on Social Security?

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Yes, the waiting week applies regardless of your Social Security status. It's based on your unemployment claim, not your other income sources.

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Got it, thanks for clarifying that.

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This thread has been really helpful. I'm in the exact same situation and was worried about potential conflicts between the two benefit programs.

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Same here! I feel much more confident about applying now.

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Definitely going to file this weekend. Good luck with yours!

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One more thing to consider - if you're planning to look for full-time work, make sure you understand how that might affect your Social Security benefits. There are earnings limits for people under full retirement age.

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I'm over full retirement age, so I think I'm okay on that front. But good point for others to consider.

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Right, once you reach full retirement age, you can earn as much as you want without affecting Social Security benefits.

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The bottom line is yes, you can get both, but be prepared for the bureaucracy. Keep good records and be patient with the process.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information. I really appreciate this community!

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You're welcome! Hope everything works out for you.

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I'm also collecting Social Security and was recently laid off from my part-time job. Reading through this thread has been incredibly helpful - I didn't realize you could receive both benefits simultaneously. One thing I'd add is to make sure you have all your employment documentation ready when you apply, including your separation notice and pay stubs. Washington ESD seems to move faster when you have everything they need upfront. Also, don't let the online application intimidate you - it's actually pretty straightforward once you get started.

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