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Noah Irving

I resigned from my job can I get unemployment - Washington ESD eligibility question

So I quit my job about 2 weeks ago because my supervisor was making my life hell and creating a hostile work environment. I've been paying into unemployment for years and really need the benefits now while I look for something new. But I keep reading conflicting info about whether you can get Washington ESD benefits if you resign. Does anyone know if there are exceptions? I documented everything with HR but they basically did nothing. I'm worried I screwed myself by quitting instead of getting fired.

You can potentially get benefits even if you resigned, but Washington ESD will review your case to determine if you had 'good cause' for leaving. Hostile work environment situations can qualify as good cause if you can document it properly. You'll need to provide evidence like emails, witness statements, or HR documentation when you file your claim.

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I do have some emails and I filed complaints with HR. Should I apply even though I'm not sure if I'll qualify?

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Yes, definitely apply. Let Washington ESD make the determination. The worst they can do is deny your claim, but if you have documentation of the hostile work environment, you have a decent chance.

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i quit my job last year for similar reasons and got approved after they did an investigation. took about 6 weeks though because they had to contact my old employer and everything

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6 weeks?? That's a long time to wait with no income. What kind of evidence did you provide?

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emails from my supervisor, text messages, and statements from coworkers who witnessed stuff. also kept a journal of incidents

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Never heard of that service. Is it legit or just another scam trying to take advantage of unemployed people?

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It's legit from what I understand. My friend said it actually worked and she was able to get her adjudication resolved faster than waiting in phone queues for hours.

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I'll look into it. Anything is better than sitting on hold for 3 hours just to get disconnected.

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The key thing is proving 'good cause' for your resignation. Washington ESD considers things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, significant changes to your job duties, or reduction in hours/pay as potential good cause. Document everything you can remember and be prepared for them to contact your former employer.

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What if my employer lies about what happened? I'm worried they'll just deny everything.

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That's why documentation is so important. Emails, written complaints to HR, witness statements - anything that creates a paper trail. Washington ESD investigators are trained to spot inconsistencies.

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UGH the system is so messed up! They make it nearly impossible to get benefits even when you're clearly entitled to them. I've been fighting with Washington ESD for months over my claim and it's like they WANT people to suffer. The whole adjudication process is designed to wear you down until you give up.

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I feel you on this. The bureaucracy is insane. But don't give up - if you have a legitimate case, keep pushing.

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Easy to say when you're not the one going broke waiting for them to make a decision!

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You should definitely apply regardless. I've seen people get approved for voluntary quit situations when they had good cause. Washington ESD will do what's called a 'fact-finding interview' where they'll ask you detailed questions about why you left. Be honest and provide as much documentation as possible.

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What kind of questions do they ask in the fact-finding interview?

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They'll ask about specific incidents, what steps you took to resolve the situation, whether you notified management, stuff like that. They want to see that you tried to fix the problem before quitting.

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my cousin went through this exact thing and she said the trick is to frame it as 'constructive dismissal' rather than voluntary quit. basically arguing that the employer made conditions so bad you had no choice but to leave

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That's essentially what 'good cause' covers in Washington state. The terminology might be different but the concept is the same.

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yeah exactly, just saying how you present it matters when you're filling out the application

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Whatever you do, don't lie on your application. Be completely honest about resigning but explain the circumstances. If you try to hide that you quit, it'll come back to bite you later and they could charge you with fraud.

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I wasn't planning to lie, just wasn't sure how to explain the situation properly.

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Good. Just tell the truth and let them decide. The fact that you documented everything with HR shows you were trying to resolve it through proper channels.

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I work in HR and I can tell you that if you filed complaints and they did nothing, that actually strengthens your case for good cause. Keep copies of everything you submitted to HR and any responses (or lack thereof) you received.

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That's reassuring. I was worried that quitting would automatically disqualify me.

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Nah, there are definitely exceptions. The key is proving you had no reasonable alternative but to quit.

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Just a heads up - even if you get approved, there might be a waiting period before benefits start. And your former employer can still appeal the decision if they disagree with Washington ESD's determination.

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Great, more delays. How long is the waiting period usually?

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It varies, but could be several weeks while they complete the investigation. That's why it's important to apply as soon as possible.

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Been following this thread and wanted to mention that I had luck with that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. I was stuck in adjudication for over a month and used them to finally get through to an agent who could explain what was holding up my case. Worth looking into if you're having trouble getting answers.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

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I'd rather not get into specifics about cost, but for me it was worth it to actually talk to someone instead of waiting indefinitely. Check their website for details.

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One thing people don't realize is that Washington ESD looks at whether you made a 'reasonable effort' to resolve the problem before quitting. Sounds like you did by going to HR. That's going to help your case significantly.

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I'm hoping so. I really tried to work within the system before I gave up and quit.

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That's exactly what they want to see. Shows you didn't just quit on a whim.

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Just to be clear - you'll still need to meet all the other eligibility requirements like being able and available for work, actively seeking work, etc. The good cause determination just deals with the reason for separation from your last job.

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Yeah I'm actively job hunting and definitely able to work. It's just the resignation thing I was worried about.

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Good, just wanted to make sure you knew about the ongoing requirements too.

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I went through something similar about a year ago. Toxic boss, hostile environment, the whole nine yards. Got approved for benefits after about 5 weeks of investigation. The key was having detailed documentation of every incident and showing I tried to resolve it internally first.

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That gives me hope. I kept detailed records of everything that happened.

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That's perfect. The more documentation you have, the stronger your case will be.

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Don't let anyone tell you that quitting automatically disqualifies you. That's one of the biggest misconceptions about unemployment benefits. Washington state recognizes that sometimes people are forced to quit due to circumstances beyond their control.

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Exactly. The law is more nuanced than most people think.

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I'm definitely going to apply. Better to try and get denied than not try at all.

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Make sure when you apply online that you're thorough in explaining your reasons for leaving. Don't just put 'resigned' - use the text boxes to explain the hostile work environment and reference your HR complaints.

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Good point. I'll make sure to be detailed in my explanation when I file.

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Yeah, those initial details can really impact how quickly they process your claim.

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One more thing - if you do get denied initially, don't panic. You can appeal the decision and often win on appeal even if the initial determination goes against you. The appeals process allows you to present more detailed evidence.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?

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I believe it's 30 days from the date of the determination notice, but double-check that when you get your decision.

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Honestly, I used that Claimyr thing too when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about my adjudication. Saved me weeks of frustration trying to reach someone. Sometimes you just need to talk to an actual person to get things moving.

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I'm definitely considering it if I run into problems. The phone system is impossible.

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The worst part is sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected. At least with services like that you know you'll actually reach someone.

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Bottom line - apply for benefits and let Washington ESD make the determination. You've got documentation, you tried to resolve it internally, and you had legitimate reasons for leaving. That's exactly the kind of situation the good cause exception is designed for.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to apply tomorrow and see what happens.

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Good luck! Hope it works out for you. Keep us posted on how it goes.

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