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Bethany Groves

Can I file for unemployment during maternity leave in Washington state?

I'm due in about 6 weeks and trying to figure out my options. My employer doesn't offer paid maternity leave and I can't afford to take unpaid time off. I heard someone mention filing for unemployment but I'm not sure if that's even possible? I'll still technically be employed just on unpaid leave. Has anyone done this in Washington? What are the rules around maternity leave and unemployment benefits?

Unfortunately you can't collect regular unemployment benefits while on maternity leave if you're still employed. Washington ESD requires you to be able and available for work, which you wouldn't be during maternity leave. However, Washington does have Paid Family and Medical Leave (PFML) which is specifically for situations like yours.

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Oh I hadn't heard of PFML! Is that through Washington ESD too or a different agency?

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It's administered by the Employment Security Department but it's a separate program from regular unemployment. You should look into it ASAP since there are application deadlines.

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Yeah PFML is what you want, not regular UI benefits. I used it for my maternity leave last year and got about 90% of my wages for 12 weeks. Way better than unemployment would be anyway.

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90% of wages sounds amazing! Did you have to pay into it beforehand or how does that work?

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Yes, it comes out of your paycheck automatically - it's a small deduction. Check your paystub, it should show PFML premiums being taken out.

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Just to clarify the unemployment piece - you definitely cannot file for regular UI benefits while on approved leave from your employer. The 'able and available' requirement means you have to be ready to accept work immediately. Being on maternity leave disqualifies you from that requirement.

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What if you quit your job right before having the baby? Could you file then?

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Quitting without good cause would make you ineligible for unemployment benefits. And pregnancy/childbirth alone isn't considered 'good cause' for leaving work in Washington.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this exact question last month and could never get through. Spent hours on hold just to get disconnected. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me reach someone at ESD. They have a video that explains how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Turned out I needed PFML not unemployment anyway but at least I got a real answer.

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Thanks for mentioning that! The phone situation with ESD is so frustrating. Did Claimyr cost a lot to use?

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It was worth it to actually talk to someone who could give me accurate information instead of guessing. Way less stressful than the endless calling.

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wait i thought if your on leave you can still get unemployment?? my sister did it in oregon

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Different states have different rules. In Washington, you can't collect UI while on approved leave and still employed. Oregon might allow it but Washington doesn't.

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oh that sucks! washington needs to fix that

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The PFML program is relatively new in Washington - started in 2020 I think? It covers maternity/paternity leave, caring for sick family members, and your own serious health conditions. Much better designed for your situation than trying to use unemployment.

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How do I apply for PFML? Is there a website or do I call somewhere?

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You can apply online at the Employment Security Department website. Just look for the Paid Family and Medical Leave section, not the unemployment section.

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This whole system is so confusing! Why can't they make it simpler to understand what benefits you're eligible for?

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I agree it's confusing at first but once you understand the difference between UI and PFML it makes sense. They serve different purposes.

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I guess but when you're pregnant and stressed the last thing you want is to figure out bureaucracy!

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One important thing to note - you need to apply for PFML at least 30 days before your leave starts if possible. Don't wait until the last minute like some people do with unemployment claims.

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Good to know! I still have about 6 weeks so I should be okay timing-wise.

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Perfect timing then. Make sure you have all your medical documentation ready when you apply.

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Can confirm PFML is the way to go. I used it for bonding leave with my adopted daughter and it was straightforward once I figured out it wasn't unemployment benefits.

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That's great that it covers adoption too! Sounds like a really comprehensive program.

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Yes, it covers biological birth, adoption, and foster placement for bonding leave. Plus medical leave for yourself or family members.

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Just make sure your employer is covered under PFML. Most are but there are some exceptions for small employers and federal workers.

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How do I check if my employer is covered? I work for a mid-sized company so I think we should be.

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If you see PFML deductions on your paystub then you're covered. You can also check with your HR department.

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To summarize for anyone else reading this: Regular unemployment (UI) requires you to be able and available for work, so you can't collect it while on maternity leave. Washington's Paid Family and Medical Leave (PFML) is specifically designed for situations like pregnancy, childbirth, and bonding with a new child.

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This has been so helpful! I was totally on the wrong track thinking about unemployment. Going to look into PFML right away.

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Great summary! Wish I had known this distinction when I was pregnant last year.

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The benefits under PFML are also generally better than what you'd get from unemployment anyway. Higher payment amounts and designed specifically for family situations.

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That's reassuring to hear. I was worried about the financial impact but it sounds like PFML will provide decent coverage.

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Much better than trying to make unemployment work for something it wasn't designed for. PFML actually understands you're not looking for work during this time.

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One more plug for using Claimyr if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about PFML or any other benefits. Their system for getting through to agents actually works, unlike trying to call directly.

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How does that service even work? Sounds too good to be true with how impossible it is to reach ESD normally.

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They have some system that gets you connected to actual ESD staff. I was skeptical too but it worked when nothing else did. Check out their demo video if you're curious how it works.

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pregnancy brain is real and trying to figure out all these different benefit programs while pregnant is exhausting! glad you asked this question OP because i was wondering the same thing

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Right?! Everything feels so overwhelming when you're trying to plan for a baby. At least now we both know about PFML!

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yes! and knowing there's a actual program designed for this instead of trying to hack unemployment makes me feel so much better

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Washington's PFML program is honestly one of the better family leave programs in the country. We're lucky to have it here.

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That's good to hear! I was feeling stressed about the financial side of maternity leave but this gives me hope.

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Yeah, many states still don't have anything like this. Washington was pretty progressive in implementing PFML.

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Make sure you understand the difference between medical leave (for recovery from childbirth) and bonding leave (for bonding with your new baby). You can potentially use both under PFML.

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Oh interesting, I didn't realize there were different types of leave. How long can you take for each?

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Medical leave can be up to 12 weeks per year for your own serious health condition, and bonding leave can be up to 12 weeks in the first year after your child arrives.

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The application process for PFML is much more straightforward than unemployment too. Less bureaucratic hoops to jump through.

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That's a relief! I've heard unemployment applications can be really complicated.

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Yeah, with PFML you're not dealing with job search requirements or weekly certifications like you would with UI benefits.

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Just want to echo what others have said - PFML is definitely what you want, not unemployment. I made the same mistake initially and wasted time looking into the wrong program.

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Thanks for sharing! It's good to know I'm not the only one who was confused about this initially.

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The names are confusing! Both come from the Employment Security Department but they're totally different programs with different rules.

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Pro tip: start gathering your documentation now - medical records, proof of employment, etc. Having everything ready makes the PFML application process much smoother.

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Good advice! What kind of medical documentation do they typically want?

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Usually documentation from your doctor about your due date, expected delivery method, any complications, etc. Your OB should know what's needed.

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If you do need to call Washington ESD about PFML and can't get through the normal way, seriously consider using Claimyr. It saved me so much frustration and I got accurate information right away instead of guessing or relying on random internet advice.

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I might have to try that if I run into issues with my application. The thought of being on hold for hours while pregnant sounds awful.

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Exactly! And when you're dealing with time-sensitive stuff like leave applications, you can't afford to waste weeks trying to reach someone.

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This thread has been so helpful! I wish there was better information out there about the difference between all these programs. PFML vs unemployment vs disability - it's all so confusing until someone explains it clearly.

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I completely agree! I'm so glad I asked here instead of just guessing or trying to figure it out on my own.

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That's what forums like this are for - helping people navigate these complicated systems. Glad everyone could share their knowledge!

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