Can I collect Washington ESD unemployment if I was fired from my job?
I got fired from my retail job last week after working there for almost two years. My manager said it was due to attendance issues but I feel like they were looking for reasons to let me go. I'm really stressed about money and wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD? I've never been fired before so I have no idea how this works. Does being fired automatically disqualify you or does it depend on the reason? Really need some guidance here.
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Madison King
You can definitely still apply for unemployment benefits even if you were fired. Washington ESD will look at whether you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. Attendance issues might qualify depending on the specific circumstances. You should file your claim right away and let them investigate.
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Vanessa Chang
•That's a relief to hear. I was worried I'd be automatically denied. How long does the investigation usually take?
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Madison King
•It varies but usually 2-4 weeks for the adjudication process. They'll contact both you and your former employer to get both sides of the story.
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Miguel Alvarez
You can definitely still apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD will investigate whether the termination was for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless they were willful. Safety complaints are actually protected activity, so that could work in your favor during the adjudication process.
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CyberSiren
•That's a relief to hear. Should I mention the safety complaints when I file my claim? I have some documentation about the violations I reported.
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Miguel Alvarez
•Absolutely include that information. Keep all your documentation ready because Washington ESD might request it during their investigation. The fact that you have proof of the safety complaints could be crucial.
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Zainab Yusuf
File your claim ASAP - don't wait around wondering if you qualify. Let Washington ESD make that determination. Even if your employer contests it, you'll get a chance to present your side during the adjudication process. The worst that happens is they say no, but you lose nothing by trying.
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CyberSiren
•Good point, I'll file today. How long does the adjudication usually take if my employer contests it?
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Zainab Yusuf
•Can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how backed up they are. But you should keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication - if you're approved, you'll get back pay.
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Connor O'Reilly
Had a similar situation last year when I got fired from my retail job. Took forever to get through to Washington ESD to check on my claim status. Finally used Claimyr to actually reach a real person - they have this system that calls you back when an agent is available. Way better than sitting on hold for hours. Check out claimyr.com, they even have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Yara Khoury
•Never heard of that service before. Is it legit? Seems too good to be true that they can actually get you through to Washington ESD.
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Connor O'Reilly
•Yeah it's real, saved me so much frustration. They basically handle the calling part for you and then connect you when they get through. Totally worth it when you need answers about your claim.
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Keisha Taylor
WASHINGTON ESD IS A JOKE!!! They'll probably deny you just because they can. I got fired for being 5 minutes late ONCE and they still denied my claim saying it was misconduct. Had to appeal and everything. The whole system is rigged against workers.
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Miguel Alvarez
•That sounds like you might have had grounds for a successful appeal. Chronic tardiness can be misconduct, but a single incident usually isn't. Did you have representation during your hearing?
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Keisha Taylor
•No I went alone and the employer had some lawyer. Felt like I didn't even have a chance to explain my side properly.
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Zara Shah
Yes, you can absolutely file for unemployment even if you were fired! The key distinction Washington ESD makes is between being fired for 'misconduct' versus being fired for other reasons like performance or personality conflicts. Since you weren't fired for stealing, violence, or willful violation of company policy, you should qualify. File your claim immediately - even if they initially deny it, you can appeal.
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Sean Flanagan
•Thank you! That's such a relief. Should I mention the part about questioning my manager's decisions or just stick to the performance issues they claimed?
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Zara Shah
•Be honest but factual. Describe it as 'disagreement over work methods' rather than getting into personal drama. Washington ESD wants to know if you were fired for legitimate business reasons vs misconduct.
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CyberSiren
Update: Just filed my claim online. The application asked about the reason for separation and I selected 'discharged by employer' then explained about the safety issues in the comments section. Now it says my claim is pending adjudication. How long before I hear something?
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Zainab Yusuf
•Could be 1-3 weeks for initial determination. Washington ESD will contact both you and your employer to get statements about what happened. Make sure you respond quickly to any requests for information.
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CyberSiren
•Will do. Should I keep looking for work while this is pending or wait to see if I get approved first?
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Miguel Alvarez
•Keep job searching! You have to meet work search requirements anyway once benefits start, and it shows good faith. Plus the job market is competitive right now so starting early gives you an advantage.
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Julian Paolo
same thing happened to me got fired for being late too many times but still got approved for UI benefits. took like 3 weeks tho
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Vanessa Chang
•Good to know I'm not alone in this situation. Did you have to provide any documentation during the process?
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Julian Paolo
•yeah they asked for my side of what happened and any emails or write ups i had
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Ella Knight
The key is whether Washington ESD considers it 'misconduct connected with work.' Simple attendance issues often don't rise to the level of misconduct unless there were warnings and you willfully ignored them. File your claim immediately and be completely honest about what happened.
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William Schwarz
•What exactly counts as misconduct? I'm in a similar situation and trying to figure out if I should even bother applying.
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Ella Knight
•Misconduct typically involves willful violations of company policy, insubordination, theft, or actions that harm the employer. Poor performance or isolated incidents usually don't qualify as misconduct.
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StardustSeeker
my friend got fired and still got unemployment so you should be fine. just tell them your side of the story
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Miguel Alvarez
•Every case is different though. The specific circumstances matter a lot in these determinations. OP's situation with safety complaints could actually help their case.
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NebulaNomad
I was in the exact same situation 6 months ago. Got fired for 'attitude problems' but really it was because I refused to work unpaid overtime. Filed with Washington ESD and got approved within 2 weeks. The key is how you explain it in your application.
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Sean Flanagan
•How did you word it in your application? I'm worried about saying the wrong thing and getting denied.
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NebulaNomad
•I kept it simple - 'terminated due to disagreement over work expectations and scheduling requirements.' Don't overthink it, just be truthful about what happened.
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Lauren Johnson
I had such a hard time getting through to Washington ESD when I needed to check on my claim status after being fired. Spent hours on hold every day. Finally found this service called Claimyr that helped me get connected to an actual agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows exactly how it works.
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Vanessa Chang
•How much does something like that cost? I'm already strapped for cash after losing my job.
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Lauren Johnson
•It's worth checking out their site for pricing details. For me it was worth it to avoid the endless phone calls and actually get answers about my claim.
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Jade Santiago
•I'm skeptical of paying for something like that but I guess if the phone lines are that bad it might be necessary.
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Paolo Marino
Been through this twice unfortunately. First time I got denied because I was fired for violating company policy (missed too many days without calling in). Second time I got approved because they fired me for 'poor performance' but couldn't prove it was intentional or willful. The key is whether Washington ESD thinks you did something deliberately wrong or if it was just not working out.
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CyberSiren
•That's helpful context. In my case, I was actually trying to do the right thing by reporting safety issues. Hopefully that counts for something.
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Paolo Marino
•Definitely should work in your favor. Whistleblower protection is a real thing and Washington ESD knows employers sometimes retaliate against people who report violations.
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Luca Ferrari
Actually, getting through to Washington ESD to check on your claim status or get clarification can be really tough with their phone system. I spent weeks trying to call them about my adjudication. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Made all the difference in getting my claim resolved quickly.
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Nia Wilson
•How much does something like that cost? I'm already broke from being fired.
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Luca Ferrari
•It's definitely worth checking out their website for details. For me, getting my claim approved faster was worth way more than continuing to struggle with the phone system for weeks.
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Sean Flanagan
•I'll look into that if I have trouble reaching them. Thanks for the tip!
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Caleb Stone
WASHINGTON ESD IS THE WORST!! They take forever to process claims and their phone system is garbage. I was fired too and it took 6 weeks to get approved. The whole system is broken.
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Vanessa Chang
•6 weeks sounds terrible but at least you eventually got approved. That gives me some hope.
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Daniel Price
•Yeah the system sucks but you just have to be patient and keep following up on your claim status.
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Madison King
Make sure you're documenting everything about your termination while it's fresh in your memory. Write down dates, who was present, what was said, any prior warnings you received. This will help during the adjudication process if your former employer contests your claim.
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Vanessa Chang
•That's really good advice. I should probably write everything down tonight while I still remember all the details clearly.
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Olivia Evans
•Also keep copies of any employee handbook sections about attendance policies. Sometimes employers overstate their policies when talking to Washington ESD.
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Sophia Bennett
I got fired from my last job for similar reasons but my unemployment got approved pretty quickly. The key is being honest on your application and not trying to hide anything. Washington ESD will find out anyway when they contact your employer.
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Vanessa Chang
•Were you nervous about being honest? I'm worried admitting to attendance issues will hurt my chances.
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Sophia Bennett
•A little bit but lying would have been worse. They're going to hear your employer's side anyway so it's better to tell your story first.
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Aiden Chen
•Definitely agree with being upfront. I tried to sugarcoat my situation and it just made things more complicated during adjudication.
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Zoey Bianchi
You should also start looking for work immediately and keep a job search log. Washington ESD requires you to be actively seeking employment even while your claim is being processed. Don't wait until it's approved to start job hunting.
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Vanessa Chang
•How many jobs do I need to apply for each week? I remember hearing there were specific requirements.
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Zoey Bianchi
•You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep detailed records. The requirements are on the Washington ESD website.
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Zainab Yusuf
One thing to remember - even if you get initially denied, you can appeal the decision. I've seen plenty of cases where the appeal was successful even when the initial determination wasn't. Don't give up if the first answer isn't what you want to hear.
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CyberSiren
•How does the appeal process work? Do I need a lawyer or can I represent myself?
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Zainab Yusuf
•You can represent yourself, but having someone who knows the system helps. There are also free legal aid organizations that sometimes help with unemployment appeals if you qualify.
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Amina Bah
Same thing happened to my brother except he worked at a restaurant. Boss fired him for 'attitude problems' but really it was because he wouldn't work off the clock. He got his unemployment approved after about a month of back and forth. Document everything and keep copies of all communications with Washington ESD.
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CyberSiren
•Good advice about documenting everything. I've been keeping records of all the safety issues I reported, so hopefully that helps my case.
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Mateo Martinez
DONT LISTEN TO THESE PPL!!! if u were fired ur screwed. thats just how it works. they only give money to ppl who get laid off not fired. save urself the trouble
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Zara Shah
•This is completely wrong. Please don't spread misinformation. Being fired for misconduct disqualifies you, but being fired for performance, personality conflicts, or business reasons doesn't automatically disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits.
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Aisha Hussain
•Yeah, this is bad advice. I've been fired twice and collected unemployment both times. It depends on WHY you were fired, not just that you were fired.
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Christopher Morgan
When I got fired my claim went into adjudication and I couldn't get anyone on the phone at Washington ESD for weeks. Finally used Claimyr to get through and found out my former employer had given incorrect information. The agent I spoke with was able to clarify everything and my claim got approved the next week.
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Aurora St.Pierre
•That's exactly what I'm worried about - employers giving their version of events that might not be accurate. Good to know there's a way to actually talk to someone.
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Christopher Morgan
•Exactly. Sometimes you really need to speak with an actual person to get things sorted out properly.
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Grace Johnson
Don't let them intimidate you into not applying. Even if you think you might not qualify, it's worth trying. The worst they can do is deny your claim and you're no worse off than you are now.
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Vanessa Chang
•You're right. I have nothing to lose by at least trying to file a claim.
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Jayden Reed
•Plus if they deny you initially, you can always appeal the decision. Sometimes the appeal goes better than the initial determination.
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Nora Brooks
I was in retail too and got fired for attendance. What they don't tell you is that if you had any protected absences under FMLA or for medical reasons, those shouldn't count against you. Make sure to mention that if it applies to your situation.
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Vanessa Chang
•I did have a few absences for doctor appointments. Should I mention those specifically in my application?
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Nora Brooks
•Definitely. Any absences that were for legitimate medical reasons or protected under state/federal law should be noted.
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Oliver Becker
Washington ESD will look at whether your actions were a 'willful disregard' of the employer's interests. Reporting safety violations is actually protecting the employer's interests in the long run, so that should help your case. Performance issues alone usually aren't enough for a misconduct determination unless they can prove you were deliberately doing poor work.
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CyberSiren
•That makes sense. I was definitely not trying to hurt the company - just wanted everyone to be safe at work.
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Miguel Alvarez
•Exactly right. The legal standard for misconduct is pretty high in Washington. Simple poor performance or even isolated mistakes don't usually qualify.
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Ethan Clark
The Washington ESD adjudication process will look at the specific reasons for termination. If your employer claims misconduct, they have to provide evidence. 'Performance issues' without documentation usually isn't enough to deny benefits. Make sure you file within the first week after being terminated to avoid any delays in your benefit year start date.
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Sean Flanagan
•What kind of evidence would they need to provide? My manager never gave me any written warnings.
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Ethan Clark
•Exactly - that works in your favor. They'd need written documentation of policy violations, warnings, improvement plans, etc. Verbal complaints about 'attitude' or 'performance' without formal documentation typically isn't considered misconduct.
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StarStrider
OMG this is giving me flashbacks to when I got fired last year!!! I was SO scared I wouldn't get unemployment but it turned out fine. The waiting was the worst part - took like 3 weeks to hear back but I did get approved. Just file ASAP and don't panic if it takes a while to process.
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Sean Flanagan
•Three weeks sounds terrifying when you have bills due! Did you have to do anything during that waiting period?
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StarStrider
•Nope, just waited and tried not to stress too much. Oh and make sure you do your weekly claims even while its processing - they told me that at orientation.
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Eli Wang
File online as soon as possible. Don't wait. The sooner you file, the sooner the clock starts ticking on your claim. Even if there's an investigation, your benefits could be backdated to when you first filed.
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Vanessa Chang
•I was planning to file tomorrow morning. Is there a specific time of day that's better to apply online?
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Eli Wang
•Early morning or late evening tend to have less traffic on the website. But honestly just file as soon as you can, any time of day.
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Zara Shah
One important thing - when you file your initial claim, Washington ESD will send a form to your former employer asking for their side of the story. This is normal and doesn't mean there's a problem. They do this for all claims where someone was terminated rather than laid off.
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Sean Flanagan
•Will my employer know that I filed for unemployment? I'm worried about burning bridges if I need a reference later.
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Zara Shah
•Yes, they'll know because Washington ESD contacts them as part of the process. But filing for unemployment is a legal right and most employers expect it. It shouldn't affect your ability to use them as a reference if you left on relatively good terms.
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Natasha Petrova
Whatever you do, don't lie on your application or during the interview process. Washington ESD will find out and that can get you in serious trouble. Be honest about getting fired but explain your side of the story clearly.
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CyberSiren
•Definitely being completely honest. I have nothing to hide about the safety complaints I made.
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Cassandra Moon
Remember that Washington ESD looks at the employer's burden of proof too. They need to show that your termination was for misconduct, not just poor performance. If you were struggling with attendance due to legitimate issues, that's different from just skipping work.
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Vanessa Chang
•That's a good point. Some of my absences were related to my car breaking down and transit issues getting to work on time.
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Zane Hernandez
•Transportation issues can be tricky but if you were making good faith efforts to get to work and communicated with your employer, that could work in your favor.
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Genevieve Cavalier
Whatever you do, don't quit your next job without having another one lined up or you'll definitely be disqualified from unemployment. Being fired is way better than quitting when it comes to UI benefits.
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Vanessa Chang
•Good advice for the future. Right now I just need to focus on getting through this claim process and finding new work.
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Ethan Scott
•Yeah one step at a time. Get your claim filed and start job searching. You'll get through this.
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Yuki Sato
I hate how stressful this whole system is. Like you're already dealing with losing your job and then you have to worry about whether you'll be able to pay rent. The whole adjudication process just adds more anxiety when you're already at your lowest point.
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NebulaNomad
•I totally get this. The uncertainty is the worst part. But most people who weren't fired for serious misconduct do end up getting approved, even if it takes a few weeks.
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Sean Flanagan
•Yeah, I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard when you don't know how you're going to pay bills next month.
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Carmen Ruiz
Quick tip - start job searching right away even before your claim is approved. Washington ESD requires you to make job search contacts every week once you start collecting, so you might as well get a head start. Plus it'll help with the stress of feeling productive.
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Sean Flanagan
•How many job search contacts do you need to make per week? I want to make sure I'm doing everything right.
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Carmen Ruiz
•I believe it's 3 per week but check the Washington ESD website to be sure. You have to keep a log of your job search activities and they can audit it anytime.
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Connor O'Reilly
Quick update on that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier - just wanted to add that it really helped when I needed to talk to someone about my adjudication status. Instead of calling 50 times and getting busy signals, they handled all that and called me back when they got through to an actual Washington ESD rep. Made the whole process way less stressful.
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Javier Hernandez
•How much does something like that cost? Sounds expensive.
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Connor O'Reilly
•It's actually pretty reasonable considering how much time and frustration it saves. Way cheaper than missing work to sit on hold all day trying to get through.
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Andre Lefebvre
Actually got fired 3 times in my career (long story lol) and collected unemployment each time. The first time I was terrified but learned that unless you do something really egregious, you'll probably qualify. Being fired for 'performance' or workplace conflicts usually doesn't count as misconduct under Washington ESD rules.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•Three times?! What industry are you in? That seems like a lot.
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Andre Lefebvre
•Retail management - high turnover industry with lots of personality conflicts between management styles. Each time I found something better eventually. The unemployment helped bridge the gap.
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Luca Ferrari
Just remembered another thing about Claimyr - they were super helpful when I had questions about my adjudication status. The Washington ESD phone system is honestly terrible for getting through to an actual person who can help, but Claimyr got me connected with an agent who could actually look at my case and explain what was happening.
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