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Sophia Gabriel

Can I get unemployment if I got fired from my job in Washington?

I just got terminated from my retail job last week after working there for 8 months. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they were looking for reasons to let me go. I'm really stressed about my finances and wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD even though I was fired? I've never been on unemployment before and don't know how this works. Does being fired automatically disqualify you or do they look at the circumstances?

You can absolutely apply for unemployment benefits even if you were fired. Washington ESD doesn't automatically disqualify you just because you were terminated. They'll investigate the circumstances around your firing to determine if you're eligible. The key question is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues generally don't count as misconduct unless they involve willful behavior.

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That's a relief to hear! So I should go ahead and file my claim then? I was worried they'd just reject it immediately.

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Yes, definitely file your claim as soon as possible. You have nothing to lose by applying, and Washington ESD will make the determination based on the facts. The worst they can do is say no, but you might be pleasantly surprised.

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I got fired from my last job too and still got unemployment. The process took about 3 weeks because they had to do an investigation called 'adjudication' where they contact both you and your former employer to get the details. As long as you weren't stealing or doing something really bad, you'll probably be fine.

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Three weeks sounds manageable. Did you have to provide any documentation or just answer questions during the investigation?

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They mostly just asked questions over the phone. I had to explain my side of what happened and they contacted my old boss too. Just be honest about everything.

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Here's what Washington ESD looks for when you're fired: they need to determine if it was 'misconduct connected with work.' Simple poor performance, inability to do the job, or personality conflicts usually don't qualify as misconduct. However, things like theft, violence, intentional rule violations, or repeated tardiness after warnings could be considered misconduct. Since you mentioned performance issues, you're likely eligible.

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This is really helpful, thank you. It was definitely performance-related, not anything intentional on my part. I was struggling to meet their sales targets.

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Sales targets are tough, especially in retail. I've seen plenty of people get unemployment after being fired for not meeting quotas.

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I was in a similar situation last year and had trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check on my claim status during the adjudication process. The phone lines are always busy and I kept getting disconnected. I ended up using a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual person at Washington ESD. They have this system that calls for you and connects you when someone picks up. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Made the whole process way less stressful.

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Interesting, I'll keep that in mind if I have trouble reaching them. How much does something like that cost?

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I don't remember the exact cost but it was worth it to avoid the frustration of trying to call for hours. The peace of mind alone was valuable.

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Never heard of that service but sounds useful. The Washington ESD phone system is definitely a nightmare to navigate.

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Whatever you do, don't delay filing your claim! You should file as soon as possible after losing your job. Even if Washington ESD needs to investigate, your claim will be backdated to when you first became unemployed. But if you wait too long to file, you could lose out on benefits for those weeks.

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Good point, I'll file today. I was hesitant because I wasn't sure if I qualified but it sounds like I should just go for it.

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Exactly! Let Washington ESD make the determination rather than assuming you don't qualify. That's what they're there for.

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Make sure you have all your employment information ready when you file - dates of employment, your employer's contact info, and your reason for separation. The online application at esd.wa.gov is pretty straightforward but having everything organized makes it go faster.

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I'll gather all that information now. Do I need my W-2 from last year or just recent pay stubs?

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Recent pay stubs are more important for the initial application. They might ask for other documents later if needed.

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The Washington ESD website has a good FAQ section about eligibility after being fired. Basically, they consider whether your actions were deliberate and work-related misconduct. Struggling with job performance when you're trying your best is very different from intentionally breaking rules or not showing up to work.

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I'll check out their FAQ section. I was definitely trying my best, just couldn't keep up with their expectations.

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That's exactly the kind of situation where you should get unemployment. Don't let them intimidate you into thinking you don't deserve it.

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I got fired from my warehouse job for attendance issues (I was late a lot due to childcare problems) and they still approved my unemployment claim. The key was explaining the circumstances honestly. Washington ESD understood that I wasn't being intentionally disrespectful or trying to avoid work.

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That gives me hope. I was worried they'd side with the employer automatically.

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They're actually pretty fair about investigating both sides. Just be prepared to explain what happened from your perspective.

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During the adjudication process, Washington ESD will probably schedule a phone interview with you. Don't panic if this happens - it's standard procedure when someone is fired. They'll ask you to explain the circumstances and give you a chance to tell your side of the story. Just be honest and factual.

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A phone interview sounds intimidating but I guess it's better than just having them decide based on paperwork alone.

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It's actually a good thing because you get to explain your situation directly. They're not trying to trip you up, just gathering information.

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One thing to remember is that your former employer might contest your unemployment claim. This is pretty common when someone is fired. If they do contest it, don't freak out - it just means Washington ESD will do a more thorough investigation. You'll still have a good chance of getting benefits if you weren't guilty of serious misconduct.

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What happens if they contest it? Does that mean I definitely won't get unemployment?

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Not at all! It just means both sides get to present their case. Washington ESD will make an impartial decision based on the evidence and testimony from both parties.

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My employer contested my claim and I still won. Sometimes they contest automatically without strong reasons.

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I worked at Washington ESD for a few years and can tell you that performance-related terminations are usually approved for benefits. The misconduct has to be willful and substantial. Things like chronic tardiness, theft, violence, or drug use would typically disqualify you. But struggling to meet sales goals or having difficulty with job tasks generally doesn't rise to the level of misconduct.

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That's really reassuring coming from someone who worked there. Thank you for the insider perspective.

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This is good to know. I've been worried about applying because I got fired for not meeting productivity standards at my factory job.

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Don't forget that you'll need to start doing job searches once your claim is approved. Washington ESD requires you to look for work and log your job search activities. The requirements are pretty reasonable - usually 3 job search activities per week - but make sure you understand what counts and what doesn't.

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Good reminder about the job search requirements. I should start looking for work right away anyway.

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Exactly, plus it shows good faith if Washington ESD asks about your job search efforts during the adjudication process.

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Just went through this whole process myself after getting fired from my office job. The adjudication took about 2 weeks and they approved my claim. The hardest part was actually getting through to Washington ESD when I had questions. I ended up using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it was a lifesaver. Finally got to talk to someone who could explain what was happening with my claim.

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Two weeks isn't too bad. I was worried it might take months.

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It varies depending on how complicated your case is and how busy they are. But most straightforward cases get resolved pretty quickly.

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The most important thing is to file your claim truthfully and completely. Don't try to hide anything or make your situation sound better than it was. Washington ESD will find out the truth anyway when they investigate, and being dishonest could hurt your case. Just explain exactly what happened and let them make the determination.

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Honesty is definitely the best policy. I'll make sure to be completely truthful in my application.

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This is so important. I've seen people get denied because they tried to embellish their story and it backfired.

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Also keep in mind that even if you're initially denied, you can appeal the decision. The appeal process gives you another chance to present your case, sometimes with additional evidence or clarification. Don't give up if the first decision doesn't go your way.

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That's good to know there's an appeal process. Hopefully I won't need it but it's reassuring to have that option.

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The appeals process is actually pretty accessible. You can represent yourself or get help from legal aid organizations if needed.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now. Got fired from my restaurant job for 'attitude problems' which I think is unfair. I filed for unemployment two weeks ago and I'm still waiting to hear back. The uncertainty is killing me but these responses are making me feel more optimistic about my chances.

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Hang in there! It sounds like we're both in similar boats. Hopefully we'll both get good news soon.

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Thanks, and good luck with your claim too. At least we're not alone in this situation.

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Restaurant jobs are notorious for vague termination reasons. You've got a good shot at getting benefits.

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One more tip - when you're filling out your weekly claims (if your initial claim gets approved), make sure you answer all the questions accurately. Don't report any work or income unless you actually worked and earned money. And remember that you need to be actively looking for work and able to accept work to continue receiving benefits.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind. The weekly claims sound pretty straightforward based on what you're describing.

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They are straightforward, just don't rush through them. Take your time to read each question carefully.

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I had a friend who used Claimyr when he was having trouble getting updates on his unemployment claim status. He said it was worth every penny because he was able to get answers instead of just wondering what was happening. Sometimes it's worth paying a little to save your sanity, especially when you're already stressed about being unemployed.

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I'm definitely going to keep that option in mind. The stress of not knowing what's happening would probably be worse than paying for help.

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I looked at their website and the video demo actually shows exactly how it works. Pretty clever system.

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Bottom line: file your claim, be honest, and don't assume you'll be denied just because you were fired. Washington ESD sees these cases all the time and they're pretty good at distinguishing between misconduct and performance issues. You've got this!

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Thank you so much for all the encouragement and advice everyone! I'm going to file my claim today and see what happens. This thread has been incredibly helpful.

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You're welcome! Come back and let us know how it goes. Good luck!

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Wishing you the best of luck with your claim. You deserve support while you're looking for new work.

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