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Are taxes taken out of unemployment benefits in Washington ESD?

I just started receiving UI benefits from Washington ESD and noticed they're not automatically taking out federal taxes. Should I be worried about owing a huge tax bill next year? Can I request to have taxes withheld from my weekly payments? I don't want to get hit with a massive bill come tax season.

By default Washington ESD doesn't withhold federal taxes from unemployment benefits, but you can request it. You need to submit Form W-4V (Voluntary Withholding Request) or do it online through your SecureAccess Washington account. They'll withhold 10% for federal taxes if you elect this option.

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Thanks! Do I need to do anything for state taxes too or just federal?

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Washington doesn't have state income tax so you only need to worry about federal withholding.

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yeah I learned this the hard way last year... ended up owing like $2800 in taxes on my unemployment. Definitely set up the withholding if you can afford the smaller weekly payments

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Ouch, that's rough. How much were you getting weekly if you don't mind me asking?

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was getting around $550/week for about 6 months, so yeah... do the math on that tax bill

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You can change your withholding election at any time during your benefit year. Just log into your Washington ESD account and look for the tax withholding option under account settings. It takes effect the following week after you make the change.

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Is there a minimum you have to withhold or can you do less than 10%?

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It's a flat 10% for federal withholding through Washington ESD. You can't customize the percentage - it's either 10% or nothing.

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks about this exact issue but their phone system is impossible. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone there? I keep getting disconnected after waiting for hours.

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It's legit - they basically handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when an agent is available. Way better than sitting on hold for 3+ hours just to get hung up on.

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DEFINITELY have them withhold taxes!!! I made this mistake in 2023 and owed almost $3000. Unemployment is taxable income just like regular wages. The IRS doesn't care that you were unemployed - they want their cut.

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Did you have any other income that year or was it just unemployment?

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Just unemployment for about 8 months. Got a new job in September but the damage was already done tax-wise.

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Wait so if I elect the 10% withholding, will that cover all my federal taxes or might I still owe more?

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Depends on your total income and tax bracket. The 10% is a flat rate that might not match your actual tax rate. You might still owe or get a refund depending on your situation.

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Exactly - the 10% is just an estimate. If you're in a higher tax bracket or have other income, you might still owe. But it's better than owing on the full amount.

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this is so confusing why doesn't washington esd just automatically take out taxes like regular jobs do with payroll

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Because unemployment benefits are administered differently than regular payroll. Each state handles it differently - some do withhold automatically, others don't.

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It's because unemployment isn't technically 'wages' even though it's taxable income. Different rules apply.

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Update: I was able to set up the tax withholding online through my SAW account. Took about 2 minutes once I found the right section. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Good choice! You'll thank yourself next tax season.

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Where exactly in the account did you find it? I'm looking but don't see it anywhere.

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Log in to your account, go to 'Unemployment Services' then 'Manage My Claim' and look for 'Federal Tax Withholding' option.

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Pro tip: even if you elect withholding, keep track of your total benefits received for the year. You'll need Form 1099-G for tax filing and sometimes there are delays getting it.

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When do they usually send out the 1099-G forms?

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Should be mailed by end of January, but you can usually access it online through your Washington ESD account earlier than that.

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Still haven't been able to reach anyone at Washington ESD about my specific tax situation. Might have to try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.

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Definitely worth trying if you need to speak with someone directly. The regular phone system there is basically broken with how overloaded it is.

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What kind of specific tax situation do you have? Maybe someone here can help.

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I had some self-employment income while on unemployment and want to make sure I'm handling the withholding correctly for my total tax liability.

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For anyone with mixed income sources while on unemployment, you might want to make estimated quarterly tax payments instead of just relying on the 10% withholding from benefits. Consult a tax professional if your situation is complex.

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That's probably what I need to do. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Yeah the 10% flat rate isn't always enough, especially if you have other income streams.

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I wish someone had told me about tax withholding when I first started collecting. Now I'm scrambling to set aside money for taxes.

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Better late than never! At least you're thinking about it now instead of getting surprised next April.

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True, but I've already received like 12 weeks of benefits with no withholding. Going to be a big hit.

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Does anyone know if the tax withholding affects your weekly benefit amount calculation or is it just taken off the top?

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It's taken off the top of your calculated benefit amount. So if your weekly benefit is $400, you'd receive $360 with 10% federal withholding elected.

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Got it, so it doesn't change your actual benefit rate, just what you receive each week.

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For what it's worth, I never elected withholding and just put 20% of each payment into a separate savings account for taxes. Worked out fine for me.

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That's smart if you have the discipline to not touch that money. I definitely didn't...

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Yeah it requires some self-control but I liked having the flexibility of the full payment each week.

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Quick question - if I elect tax withholding now, does it apply to benefits I already received or just going forward?

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Only going forward from when you elect it. It doesn't retroactively withhold from previous payments.

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That's what I figured but wanted to confirm. Thanks!

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The whole tax situation with unemployment is such a pain. Regular jobs handle this automatically but with UI you have to think about it yourself.

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right?? like we're already stressed about being unemployed and now we have to worry about taxes too

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It's definitely an extra burden during an already difficult time, but better to deal with it upfront than get hit with a big bill later.

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I set up withholding as soon as I started my claim. Rather get a small refund than owe money I don't have.

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That's exactly my thinking too. Peace of mind is worth the smaller weekly payments.

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Same here. Already dealing with reduced income, don't need tax surprises on top of it.

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Has anyone had issues with the online withholding election not working? I keep trying to set it up but the page seems to glitch out.

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The Washington ESD website can be pretty buggy. If you can't get through online, that's another situation where calling through Claimyr might help - they can walk you through it or handle it over the phone.

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Good point, might be worth trying that route if the website keeps giving me problems.

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Also try clearing your browser cache and cookies, or try a different browser. The SAW portal can be finicky sometimes.

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Bottom line for anyone reading this thread: unemployment benefits are taxable income and Washington ESD doesn't withhold by default. Set up the 10% federal withholding unless you want to deal with a big tax bill later.

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Perfect summary! This should be the first thing they tell you when you file a claim.

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Absolutely. Would have saved me a lot of stress and money if I'd known this upfront.

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Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Really helpful info that I couldn't find clearly explained anywhere on the Washington ESD website.

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The official info is there but it's buried and not well explained. Forums like this are so much more helpful.

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Agreed - real experiences from people who've been through it are way more valuable than the official documentation.

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