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Do you pay income tax on Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I've been receiving unemployment benefits from Washington ESD since October and just realized I should probably be thinking about taxes. Do I need to pay income tax on my UI payments? I've been getting about $650 a week and haven't had any taxes withheld. Should I be setting money aside or can I have taxes taken out automatically? Really don't want to get hit with a huge tax bill next year.

Yes, unemployment benefits are considered taxable income by the IRS. You'll get a 1099-G form from Washington ESD showing how much you received. You can have federal taxes withheld by logging into your account on secure.esd.wa.gov and updating your tax withholding preferences.

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Thanks! Do you know what percentage I should have withheld? I don't want to withhold too much but also don't want to owe a ton.

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Most people do 10% for federal taxes, but it depends on your total income for the year. You can always adjust it later if needed.

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I made this mistake last year and owed like $2,800 in taxes on my unemployment. Definitely set up withholding or put money aside every week. The good news is Washington state doesn't tax unemployment so you only worry about federal.

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Wow that's a lot! How much were you getting per week if you don't mind me asking?

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I was getting the max which was like $844 a week at the time, and I was on UI for about 8 months total.

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You should definitely set up tax withholding ASAP. Log into your Washington ESD account, go to 'Payment Information' and you can choose to have 10% withheld for federal taxes. It's much easier than trying to save money on your own or getting hit with a big bill.

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Is there a way to change this if you already have direct deposit set up? I've been getting benefits for 2 months already.

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Yes, you can change your withholding settings anytime. Just log in and update your preferences. It'll apply to future payments.

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I had such a hard time getting through to Washington ESD to ask about this tax stuff. Their phone lines are always busy and the website doesn't explain everything clearly. Finally found this service called Claimyr that helped me get connected to an actual agent who walked me through setting up the tax withholding. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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How does that work exactly? Do they just help you get through to someone?

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Yeah they basically call for you and get you connected to an actual Washington ESD representative. Way better than sitting on hold for hours or getting hung up on.

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Interesting, I might try that. I've been trying to reach them for weeks about my tax situation.

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wait unemployment is taxable?? I thought government benefits weren't taxed. This is news to me and I've been on UI since September...

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Unfortunately yes, unemployment benefits count as income for tax purposes. You're not alone - lots of people don't realize this.

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Well crap. Guess I better start setting money aside now. Do you know if there are penalties for not having taxes withheld?

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As long as you pay what you owe when you file your return, there shouldn't be any penalties. But if you owe a lot, you might have to pay quarterly estimated taxes going forward.

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The 1099-G form usually comes out in January. Make sure Washington ESD has your current address because they'll mail it to you. You need this form to file your taxes correctly.

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Good point about the address. Can you get the 1099-G online too or just by mail?

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You should be able to access it through your Washington ESD online account once it's available, but I'd double check that your mailing address is current just in case.

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I set up 10% federal withholding from the start and it worked out pretty well. Got a small refund actually because I didn't work much last year. Better safe than sorry with taxes.

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That makes me feel better. I think I'll go set up 10% withholding today.

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Smart move. I wish I had done that from the beginning instead of learning the hard way.

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Does anyone know if you can deduct job search expenses when you're on unemployment? Like gas money for interviews, resume printing, etc?

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Job search expenses aren't deductible anymore under current tax law, unfortunately. That changed a few years ago.

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Ugh that sucks. Thanks for letting me know though.

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Update: I logged into my Washington ESD account and set up 10% federal tax withholding. Was pretty easy to find under payment options. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Great job taking care of that quickly! You'll be glad you did when tax season comes around.

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Smart thinking ahead. Wish more people knew about this before they get surprised.

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Just want to add that if you worked part of the year before going on unemployment, make sure to factor in your W-2 income too when thinking about taxes. Your total income for the year determines your tax bracket.

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Good point. I worked until September so I'll have both W-2 and 1099-G income this year.

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Exactly. Might be worth talking to a tax professional if your situation is complicated.

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The Washington ESD website actually has a whole section about taxes and unemployment benefits if you want to read more details. It's under the 'Tax Information' tab I think.

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I'll check that out, thanks for the tip!

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Another thing to remember is that if you move to a different state while on Washington ESD unemployment, you might have to deal with that state's tax rules too. Though most states don't tax unemployment benefits.

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Really? I might be moving to Oregon next year. Do they tax unemployment benefits?

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I'm not 100% sure about Oregon specifically. You'd have to check their state tax rules.

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I used to work in tax prep and saw so many people get surprised by unemployment taxes. The withholding option is definitely the way to go if you don't want to deal with a big bill later.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone who's seen it from the tax side. Glad I set up withholding.

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For anyone who's already received a lot of unemployment without withholding, you might want to make estimated tax payments quarterly to avoid owing too much at once. The IRS has worksheets to help calculate this.

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How do you make estimated payments? Is it complicated?

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You can do it online through the IRS website or mail in payments with form 1040ES. Not too complicated once you figure out how much to pay.

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The amount of unemployment benefits that are taxable can also depend on your other income and filing status. If your total income is low enough, you might not owe much tax anyway.

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That's true. I guess it depends on each person's situation.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier. I actually used them again last week to get help with updating my direct deposit info and it worked great. Really saves time compared to trying to get through on your own.

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I'm definitely going to try that service. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for two weeks about my tax withholding and keep getting disconnected.

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Yeah that's exactly the kind of thing they help with. Way less frustrating than dealing with the busy phone lines.

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One more tax tip - keep good records of your unemployment payments and any taxes withheld. Makes filing your return much easier if you have everything organized.

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Good advice. I'll start keeping track of my weekly payment amounts.

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Thanks for posting this question! I had no idea about the tax implications and I've been on unemployment for 6 weeks. Going to set up withholding right now.

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Glad the thread was helpful! Better to find out now than at tax time.

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Exactly - much better to be proactive about it.

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The tax withholding really is the easiest way to handle this. I've had it set up from day one and haven't had to worry about setting money aside or calculating payments.

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That's the approach I'm taking now. Seems like the most stress-free option.

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For anyone still confused about this stuff, the IRS also has Publication 525 that explains what types of income are taxable, including unemployment benefits. It's pretty detailed if you want to dive deep into the rules.

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Thanks for the resource! I might check that out if I have more questions.

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IRS publications are actually pretty helpful once you get past the government language.

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