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Will my wife's spousal Social Security benefits be reduced if she claims her own benefits at 62?

Hello SS experts! My wife and I are both turning 62 next year (born in 1963). We're trying to maximize our Social Security benefits and I'm confused about spousal benefit reductions. Our situation: I'm the higher earner (my PIA is around $2,900) and plan to work until I'm 65, then claim my benefits. My wife has enough work credits for her own benefit (about $1,250 at FRA), but we're thinking she should claim her own benefits at 62. I understand that when I start collecting at 65, she'll be eligible for spousal benefits on top of her own reduced benefit. But I'm confused about how much her spousal portion will be reduced. Will it be reduced because SHE claimed early? Or because I'M claiming before MY FRA? Or both? Our FRA is 67, so I know we're both taking early benefits. Just trying to figure out if there's a double penalty on her spousal amount. Thanks for any guidance!

The reduction to your wife's spousal benefit will be based on WHEN SHE BEGAN receiving benefits, not when you claim. Since she'll be claiming at 62 (5 years before her FRA), her own benefit will be permanently reduced by about 30%. When you claim at 65, she'll become eligible for spousal benefits, but those spousal benefits will ALSO be reduced based on her early claiming age (62). She won't get the full 50% of your PIA minus her PIA. Instead, it will be reduced based on her early claiming age. The calculation gets complicated, but essentially: 1. Her own reduced benefit (claimed at 62) will be about 70% of her PIA 2. Her spousal add-on will be reduced because she claimed at 62 3. The total combined benefit will be less than if she had waited until her FRA Hope that helps explain the reduction!

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Thank you for explaining! So if I understand correctly, because she's claiming at 62, both parts of her benefit (own + spousal) get hit with the reduction. That's what I was afraid of. Do you know approximately how much the spousal portion is reduced when claimed 5 years early? Is it also about 30%?

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My wif and I did this exact thing last year. She took her benefits early at 62 and I waited till 65. Big mistake! The reduction was huge and now she's stuck with it forever. Consider waiting til at least 65 for her too.

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Not necessarily a mistake - it depends on their individual situation. If she has health issues or they need the income now, claiming early might make sense. Plus, she'll get 3 years of benefits she wouldn't otherwise receive. It's not always about maximizing the monthly amount.

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True but we didn't realize how much smaller her check would be! It's like 40% less than if she waited til 67. Just saying think carefully.

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The spousal benefit reduction is based on a complex formula, but here's the approximate calculation: When your wife claims at 62, her own benefit will be reduced to about 70% of her PIA ($1,250 × 0.7 = $875). For the spousal benefit, she's eligible for up to 50% of your PIA. That's $2,900 × 0.5 = $1,450. But since she's claiming the spousal portion 5 years early (at 62 instead of 67), that maximum spousal amount will be reduced by approximately 30% as well. However, she doesn't receive both benefits added together. Instead, she'll receive her own reduced benefit plus the difference between that and her reduced spousal benefit (if the spousal is higher). Getting precise numbers would require the exact reduction factors from SSA, but this gives you the general idea of how the reduction works.

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Thanks for breaking down the math! That helps a lot. So essentially, she'd get her reduced benefit of about $875, and then the difference between that and her reduced spousal benefit? I think I need to call SSA to get exact numbers for our situation.

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Has anyone actually called SSA to discuss this scenario? I tried 4 times this month and couldn't get through! Been on hold for hours and they keep disconnecting me. So frustrating!!!

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Yes, the phone lines are terrible lately. Try calling right when they open at 8am, or look into Claimyr.com - they'll hold your place in line and call you back when an agent is available. I used their service last month and got through in 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU

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Thanks for the tip! I've never heard of that service but I'm going to try it tomorrow. I've wasted so many hours on hold already.

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I dunno why everyone makes this so complicated. Just claim whenever you need the money! My husband and I both claimed at 62 and we're doing fine. We got to enjoy the money while we're still young enough to travel.

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It's not just about getting money early vs. later - it's about total lifetime benefits. For couples with significant benefit differences, sophisticated claiming strategies can mean tens of thousands more in lifetime benefits. But you're right that quality of life and current needs are important factors too.

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You might want to run some numbers on what happens if you both wait until FRA or even 70. My financial advisor showed me that my wife and I would get almost $100,000 more in lifetime benefits if I waited until 70 and she claimed at her FRA. The survivor benefit aspect is really important to consider too - whoever lives longer will inherit the higher benefit amount.

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That's a good point about survivor benefits I hadn't really considered. If I wait longer, and then pass away before my wife, she'd get my higher benefit amount. Adds another dimension to the decision.

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This is a complex topic, but I think I can help clarify this for you. When your wife claims her own benefits at 62, they will be permanently reduced by approximately 30% from her PIA ($1,250). When you later claim at 65, she becomes eligible for spousal benefits. At that point, SSA will calculate: 1. Her PIA ($1,250) 2. 50% of your PIA ($2,900 ÷ 2 = $1,450) 3. The difference between them ($1,450 - $1,250 = $200) However, because she claimed at 62, this $200 difference will be reduced based on the spousal benefit reduction factor for claiming 60 months early (approximately 35% reduction). So her spousal add-on would be roughly $130 after reduction. Her total benefit would be her reduced own benefit (approximately $875) plus the reduced spousal add-on (approximately $130), totaling about $1,005. This is significantly less than the $1,450 she would receive if she had waited until her FRA to claim any benefits. The early claiming penalty affects both portions of her benefit.

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Thank you for this detailed breakdown! This makes it crystal clear. So the spousal add-on is calculated as the difference between 50% of my PIA and her full PIA, THEN that difference gets reduced for early claiming. I think we need to reconsider our strategy.

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As someone who just went through this decision process last year, I wanted to share my perspective. My husband and I had almost identical numbers to yours - he was the higher earner with a PIA around $2,800, and mine was about $1,200. We ultimately decided that I would wait until my FRA to claim any benefits, even though it meant living on one income for those extra years. Here's why: when we ran the numbers, claiming at 62 would have cost us about $300-400 per month for the rest of my life compared to waiting until 67. The math that @Mia Alvarez laid out is spot on - the early claiming penalty really hits both parts of the benefit hard. In our case, waiting those extra 5 years meant my total monthly benefit would be about $1,400 instead of around $1,000. I know it's tempting to get the money sooner, but if you can afford to wait and you're both in good health, the financial benefit of waiting is substantial. Plus, as @Logan Greenburg mentioned, the survivor benefit aspect is crucial - whichever of you lives longer will be stuck with the consequences of early claiming decisions. Just my two cents based on our experience! Good luck with your decision.

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I'm in a very similar situation to yours - wife turning 62 next year and we're wrestling with the same decision! After reading all these responses, I'm leaning toward having my wife wait until FRA based on the math everyone's laid out. One thing I don't see mentioned much is the "do-over" rule. If your wife claims at 62 and then changes her mind within the first 12 months, she can withdraw her application, pay back everything she received, and start fresh as if she never claimed. It's only available once in your lifetime, but it could be a safety net if you decide to test the waters with early claiming. Also, have you looked into whether your wife could do "restricted application" strategies? I know the rules changed in 2015, but there might still be some options depending on your exact birth dates and timing. The phone wait times for SSA are absolutely brutal right now - definitely try that Claimyr service someone mentioned or consider visiting a local SSA office if you have one nearby. Sometimes face-to-face meetings are easier to get than phone appointments.

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Great point about the do-over rule @Zane Gray! I didn't know about that 12-month withdrawal option - that could definitely provide some peace of mind if we decide to test early claiming. However, I'm curious about the restricted application strategies you mentioned. I thought those were mostly phased out for people born after 1954? Since we were both born in 1963, I'm not sure we'd qualify for any of those strategies, but it's worth asking SSA about. The local office visit is a good suggestion too - I keep forgetting that's an option since everything moved online during COVID. Thanks for sharing your perspective as someone in the same boat!

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