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Elijah Jackson

Can my wife claim spousal benefits on my Social Security when I start at 66 but my FRA is 67?

I've been trying to figure out how spousal benefits might work for my wife and me. My wife just started collecting her own Social Security at her full retirement age last month. I'm currently 63 and still working, planning to file for my benefits when I turn 66, which is before my full retirement age of 67. Here's what I can't figure out - when I start collecting at 66, would my wife qualify for spousal benefits based on 50% of what my FRA benefit would be at 67? Or would her spousal benefit be based on my reduced benefit that I'll actually receive at 66? I know my benefit will be reduced by filing early, but I'm confused about how that affects what she might get as a spouse. We're trying to maximize our combined income over the next few years as we transition to retirement. Any insights from folks who've been through this?

Sophia Miller

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Your wife's spousal benefit would be based on your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), which is what you'd get at your full retirement age of 67. When YOU take your benefits early at 66, YOU get a reduction, but her spousal benefit calculation is still based on your full PIA amount. However, since she's already collecting her own benefit, she'll only get the difference if the spousal benefit is higher than her own. This is called the "excess spousal benefit" - it's the difference between her benefit and 50% of your PIA.

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Thanks for clarifying! So if her own benefit is already more than 50% of my PIA, then there's no advantage to her filing for spousal benefits when I start collecting, right?

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Mason Davis

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When did your wife start working? My husband and I were in similar situation but turns out his benefit was WAY higher than mine because I took time off for kids

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She worked consistently for about 40 years but at lower-paying jobs than mine. We're thinking her benefit might be around 40% of what mine will be, so the spousal might add something.

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Mia Rodriguez

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Just to add some important details: The spousal benefit is indeed based on your PIA (unreduced benefit at FRA), not on what you actually receive when you file early. However, for your wife to receive spousal benefits, you must be collecting your own benefits first. Also important - since your wife is already collecting her own benefits, the SSA will automatically calculate if she's eligible for additional spousal benefits once you file. She won't need to submit a separate application. They'll just pay her the higher of either her own benefit or the combination of her own plus the spousal excess amount. One more consideration - if your benefit is substantially higher than hers, you might want to run calculations on whether it makes financial sense for you to wait until your FRA or even age 70 to maximize your benefit, which would also maximize any potential survivor benefit for her if you pass away first.

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Jacob Lewis

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This is so confusing!! I thought spouses just got half no matter what?? The SS website makes NO SENSE

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Jacob Lewis

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my head hurts trying to figure all this out lol. i tried calling SS multiple times about my benefits and kept getting disconnected. total nightmare!!

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Ethan Clark

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THEY MAKE IT COMPLICATED ON PURPOSE!! You think the govt wants to pay us our full benefits?? I've been fighting with them for 2 years about my benefits calculation and they keep giving me different answers every time I call. My advice - document EVERYTHING and always get the rep's name and ID number when you call!

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Mila Walker

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same happened to my sister last year! she finally had to go in person to the local office

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Sophia Miller

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To directly answer your original question: When your wife files for spousal benefits, she would be eligible for up to 50% of your PIA (your FRA benefit amount), regardless of when you actually claim your benefits. But remember that since she's already receiving her own retirement benefit, she'll only receive the difference if 50% of your PIA exceeds her own benefit amount. For example: - Your PIA (benefit at FRA) = $3,000 - 50% of your PIA = $1,500 - Your wife's own benefit = $1,200 - Spousal benefit she could receive = $300 ($1,500 - $1,200) This would be added to her own benefit for a total of $1,500.

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That makes perfect sense now, thanks! Our numbers are similar to your example, so this is very helpful. I'll still need to decide if claiming at 66 makes sense for us or if I should wait longer.

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Mason Davis

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whatever u do dont make the mistake i did...i filed right at 62 and now im getting like $600 less than if i had waited! wish somone had told me

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Mila Walker

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this is why i'm waiting til 70, cant afford to leave money on the table these days with everything so expensive

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I think I understand better now - her spousal benefit would be based on my full FRA amount (at 67), not my reduced amount when I file at 66. And since she's already collecting her own benefit, she'd just get the difference if 50% of my PIA is more than her current benefit. I'm going to do some more calculations to see if it makes more sense for me to wait longer than 66, considering both our current needs and the long-term impact. Really appreciate all the insights!

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You're welcome! Just one more thing to consider - make sure to check if your wife might be eligible for any delayed retirement credits on her own benefit if she hasn't reached 70 yet. Even though she's already collecting, sometimes people don't realize they could have waited longer for a higher benefit. Also, you might want to use the SSA's online benefit calculators or consider meeting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security optimization. The timing decision can have a huge impact on your lifetime benefits, especially when you factor in both of your life expectancies and potential survivor benefits.

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Carmen Diaz

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Great point about the delayed retirement credits! I didn't realize that was still an option once someone starts collecting. This whole Social Security system has so many nuances that it's easy to miss important details. The idea of meeting with a specialist makes a lot of sense given how much money is at stake over the long term. Thanks for mentioning the lifetime benefit perspective - that's definitely something we need to factor in beyond just our immediate cash flow needs.

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Gael Robinson

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I went through this exact same situation with my husband last year! One thing that really helped us was creating a spreadsheet to compare different scenarios - like what our total household income would look like if he filed at 66 vs waiting until 67 or even 70. Don't forget to factor in taxes too - Social Security benefits can be taxable depending on your other income sources. We ended up deciding it made sense for him to file early because we needed the cash flow, even though it meant leaving some money on the table long-term. Sometimes the bird in the hand is worth more than waiting for the potential bird in the bush, especially if you have health concerns or other financial pressures.

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