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Aisha Abdullah

Social Security representative payee vs Medicare authorized person - separate processes?

I'm trying to help my mom with her benefits but I'm confused about the representative payee process. I just became her rep payee for Social Security after her stroke last month, but does that automatically make me her authorized person for Medicare too? Or do I need to set that up separately with Medicare? The field office wasn't clear when I called, and I've been getting conflicting info online. Some sites say it's all under SSA, others say Medicare requires additional paperwork. Anyone navigate this successfully?

Ethan Davis

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They're different. When I became rep payee for my dad, I still had to fill out separate paperwork to handle his Medicare stuff. Had to use form CMS-1696 I think. Being a rep payee for SS doesn't automatically give u authority for Medicare decisions.

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Ugh that's what I was afraid of. Did you submit the Medicare form to the same office or somewhere else?

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Yuki Tanaka

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Social Security representative payee and Medicare authorized representative are two separate designations that require different processes. As a representative payee, you're authorized to receive and manage your mother's Social Security benefits, but this doesn't automatically extend to Medicare. For Medicare, you'll need to complete Form CMS-1696 (Appointment of Representative) which authorizes you to act on her behalf for Medicare matters. Additionally, if you need to handle her Medicare Part D (prescription drug) decisions, some plans require their own authorization forms. The Medicare authorization gives you ability to: - Enroll/disenroll in Medicare plans - File appeals for denied services - Access her Medicare information - Communicate with Medicare on her behalf

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Thank you for explaining this so clearly! I'll download that CMS-1696 form. Is there a time limit for how long the Medicare authorization lasts? The rep payee status continues until SSA reviews it, but I'm not sure about the Medicare side.

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Carmen Ortiz

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My sister is rep paye for our mom. She just went to SS office with the paperwork they gave her and then Medicare knew automatically. No seprate forms!!! So confused why everyone saying differnt things.

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Yuki Tanaka

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There are actually a few situations where it might appear automatic, but technically they're still separate. If your sister completed an MSP (Medicare Savings Program) application or if your mother has both Medicare and Medicaid, sometimes the authorizations can be processed together. But for most situations, separate authorizations are required for Medicare-specific decisions.

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MidnightRider

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I went through this NIGHTMARE last year with my aunt. Being a rep payee for Social Security is one process. Then for Medicare you need the CMS-1696 form. BUT THEN I found out there's ANOTHER form if you want to access the Medicare.gov account online!!! And ANOTHER form if she has a Medicare Advantage plan! I spent WEEKS getting this sorted out and kept getting bounced between offices. None of the customer service people seem to understand their own systems!!! It's absolutely ridiculous how complicated they make this!!!

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Andre Laurent

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Same experience here. Was told 3 different things by 3 different people at SSA. So frustrating!

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Hey there! I actually work with seniors and help them navigate these systems. There's often confusion about this topic. To clarify: 1. Rep payee (Social Security) - Allows you to receive/manage SS benefits 2. Authorized representative (Medicare) - Allows you to handle Medicare issues 3. Medicare account designee - Allows online account access They're separate systems with separate authorizations. For the Medicare side, you'll need to submit Form CMS-1696, but if your mom has a Medicare Advantage plan or Part D plan, those insurance companies might require their own authorization forms too. If you're having trouble reaching representatives at Medicare to get this sorted, I've personally seen clients have good experiences with Claimyr (claimyr.com). They help you connect with agents quickly without the ridiculous hold times. There's a demo of how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU

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Thank you, that breakdown is really helpful! I'll definitely check out Claimyr - I've been trying to reach Medicare for 3 days and keep getting disconnected after 40+ minutes on hold. At this point I'll try anything to get this sorted out faster.

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There's a lot of incorrect information here. Let me clarify the official policy: Being a representative payee for Social Security benefits does NOT automatically make you authorized to act on someone's behalf for Medicare matters. These are completely separate programs with separate authorization requirements, even though Medicare is administered by the Social Security Administration. For Medicare authorization, you need form CMS-1696. This allows you to handle things like appeals, enrollment decisions, and communicating with Medicare. This authorization can be ongoing or for a specific timeframe. For online Medicare account access, there's yet another process through Medicare.gov's account settings where the beneficiary can grant access (if they're able), or you can request access directly. If your mother has a Medicare Advantage plan or Part D plan, those private insurers may have their own authorization requirements too. Source: I worked at SSA for 12 years before retiring.

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MidnightRider

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THIS!!! Wish someone had given me this clear explanation from the beginning instead of the runaround I got from every office I called! Would have saved me so much time and frustration.

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Update: I finally got this sorted out! For anyone who finds this thread later - here's what worked: 1. Rep payee for Social Security is completely separate from Medicare authorization 2. Got the CMS-1696 form from Medicare.gov, filled it out, and mailed it to my mom's Medicare Advantage plan 3. Had to fill out a separate form for her Part D prescription plan 4. Used Claimyr to finally reach a Medicare rep who added me as an authorized person on her Medicare.gov account Frustrating process but finally done! Thanks everyone for the help and guidance.

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Ethan Davis

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they should really make this easier, my grandmother needed help and i had to do all this paperwork too. glad u got it fixed!

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AstroAce

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Just went through this exact situation with my father-in-law last month. Can confirm what others have said - they are completely separate processes and it's incredibly confusing! The SSA rep payee application was straightforward, but then I had to navigate the Medicare maze separately. One tip that helped me: when you call Medicare, ask to speak with someone specifically about "authorized representative" setup rather than just general Medicare questions. I got transferred around less when I was specific about what I needed. Also keep copies of everything - I had to resubmit the CMS-1696 form twice because they claimed they never received it the first time. The whole system really needs to be streamlined. It's hard enough dealing with a family member's health issues without having to become an expert in government bureaucracy!

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Leslie Parker

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That's a great tip about being specific when calling Medicare! I wish I had known that earlier - I probably would have saved hours of being transferred between departments. It's really frustrating that families going through medical crises have to deal with such a confusing bureaucratic maze. Thanks for sharing your experience, it'll definitely help others who find this thread later.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now with my elderly neighbor who asked me to help her navigate this process. Reading through everyone's experiences confirms what I suspected - that these are two completely separate bureaucratic processes that unfortunately don't communicate with each other very well. I've bookmarked this discussion because the step-by-step breakdown and real-world experiences shared here are way more useful than the official government websites, which tend to be vague and confusing. It's frustrating that families dealing with health crises have to become experts in government paperwork, but at least this community makes it a bit easier to figure out. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to those who provided the specific form numbers and practical tips!

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Paloma Clark

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I'm so glad this thread exists too! I'm just starting to deal with this for my mom and was feeling completely overwhelmed by all the different forms and processes. It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one who found the official websites confusing - I kept second-guessing myself wondering if I was missing something obvious. Having real people share their actual experiences and what worked (and what didn't) is invaluable. Definitely saving this thread for reference as I work through the paperwork!

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Jade Santiago

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I'm just starting to research this for my dad who had a recent hospitalization. Reading through this thread has been so eye-opening - I had no idea these were separate processes! I was assuming that getting appointed as his rep payee would cover everything Medicare-related too. It's honestly pretty shocking how disconnected these systems are, especially since they're both supposed to be helping the same vulnerable population. My dad is still recovering and the last thing I want to do is mess up his benefits by not filing the right paperwork. Quick question for those who've been through this - should I wait until the rep payee approval goes through before starting the Medicare authorization process, or can I do both at the same time? I'm trying to figure out the most efficient way to handle this without creating any complications. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here. This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that you can't get from the official websites!

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Mei Liu

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You can definitely start both processes at the same time! I did that with my mom and it actually saved time. The Medicare authorization process doesn't depend on the rep payee status being finalized first - they're completely separate systems that don't really talk to each other anyway. Just make sure to keep track of where you are in each process because the timelines can be different. The rep payee approval took about 6 weeks for us, but the Medicare CMS-1696 form was processed within 2 weeks. Having both moving forward simultaneously meant I could start helping with her Medicare issues sooner. One heads up though - if your dad has a Medicare Advantage plan, start that authorization paperwork early too because some of those private insurers can be slower to process than regular Medicare. Good luck with everything!

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Amara Nnamani

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I'm a case worker who helps families navigate these systems daily, and I can confirm everything that's been shared here. The confusion is completely understandable because logically you'd think Social Security rep payee status would cover all SSA-administered programs, but Medicare has its own authorization requirements. One thing I always tell families: if your loved one is cognitively able to participate, have them present when you submit the CMS-1696 form either in person or by phone. Some Medicare representatives will want to verify consent directly with the beneficiary, even if the paperwork is properly filled out. This can speed up the approval process significantly. Also, keep a copy of the signed CMS-1696 form for your records - you'll often need to reference the authorization number when calling Medicare, and having it handy saves time. The authorization typically lasts until revoked or until the beneficiary passes away, unlike some other temporary authorizations. The system definitely needs reform to be more family-friendly during medical crises, but knowing the separate processes upfront at least helps you plan accordingly.

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This is such valuable professional insight, thank you! I wish I had known about having my mom present during the CMS-1696 submission - that could have saved me a lot of back-and-forth calls. The tip about keeping the authorization number handy is also really practical. It's reassuring to hear from someone who works in this field that the confusion is normal and understandable. When you're dealing with a family medical crisis, the last thing you need is to feel like you're failing at navigating bureaucracy on top of everything else. Having a professional confirm that these systems really are as disconnected as they seem helps validate the frustration so many of us have experienced. Do you happen to know if there's any movement toward reforming or streamlining these processes? It seems like such an obvious improvement that could help thousands of families.

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