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Reading through this entire thread has been both educational and inspiring. Isabella, I'm so impressed by how you've handled everyone's advice and transformed what started as a panic into a clear action plan. I wanted to add one more resource that might be helpful: many hospitals and medical centers have financial counselors who specialize in helping patients navigate insurance transitions. Since you mentioned having frequent treatments and specialist visits, your medical team might have someone on staff who has dealt with similar situations before. They often know about local programs and resources that even attorneys might not be aware of. Also, when you do meet with an elder law attorney, consider asking if they offer payment plans or if they'd accept payment from the crypto conversion as part of your legal spend-down strategy. Some attorneys who specialize in benefits law understand that their clients are often in tight financial situations and can be flexible about payment arrangements. One last thought - you mentioned your nephew was "big into tech." If he kept detailed records of his crypto purchases and transactions, that documentation could be incredibly valuable for tax purposes when you do convert any of it. It might be worth asking the executor if those records are available. You've got such a solid plan now with SHIP counseling, elder law consultation, medical documentation, and all the various programs people have mentioned. Your thoughtful approach to this challenging situation is really admirable. Best of luck with everything!

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This is such wonderful additional advice, Carmen! The hospital financial counselor suggestion is particularly valuable - I never would have thought to ask about that, but you're absolutely right that they probably see situations like mine fairly regularly and would know about local resources that might not be widely publicized. The point about asking attorneys regarding payment plans or accepting payment from crypto conversion as part of the legal spend-down is brilliant. I was worried about the upfront costs of getting proper legal help, but framing it as part of the legitimate spend-down strategy makes perfect sense. Regarding my nephew's records - that's an excellent point. He was incredibly meticulous about everything tech-related, so I wouldn't be surprised if he kept detailed transaction records. I'll definitely ask the executor about this when we next speak. Having that documentation could save me significant money on taxes, which would mean more resources available for my actual care needs. It's amazing how this thread has evolved from my initial panic into what feels like a comprehensive roadmap. Between the SHIP counseling, elder law consultation, hospital financial counselors, medical documentation, various benefit programs, and now these additional strategies, I feel like I have multiple pathways to explore. Thank you for adding these final pieces to the puzzle. The collective wisdom of this community has been absolutely invaluable - I couldn't have asked for better guidance during such a challenging time. I'm feeling genuinely hopeful now that I can navigate this properly and maintain the care I need.

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Isabella, I've been following your journey through this thread and I'm so glad to see how you've transformed what started as overwhelming panic into a structured action plan. Your methodical approach to gathering information before making decisions is exactly the right way to handle something this complex. I wanted to add one practical tip that might help during your upcoming consultations: prepare a one-page summary of your situation including your current benefits, medical conditions, treatment costs, and the inheritance details. Having this written summary will help you communicate efficiently with SHIP counselors, attorneys, and other professionals, and ensures you don't forget important details when you're feeling anxious during appointments. Also, since you mentioned your neighbor might help with appointments, consider giving her a copy of this summary too. Sometimes having an advocate who can ask follow-up questions or clarify things you might miss can be incredibly valuable. Your proactive approach and willingness to seek proper guidance gives me confidence that you'll find a path that preserves your health coverage while allowing you to benefit from your nephew's generous legacy. The fact that you're prioritizing doing things legally and ethically, despite the complexity, speaks volumes about your character. Keep us updated on how things progress - this community clearly cares about your wellbeing and your experience could help others facing similar challenges in the future.

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This is such excellent practical advice about preparing a written summary! I've been jotting down notes throughout this conversation, but you're absolutely right that having everything organized on one page will make my consultations much more efficient and ensure I don't forget crucial details when I'm nervous. I'm definitely going to create that summary this weekend and give a copy to my neighbor when I ask her to help with appointments. She's always been great at asking questions I don't think of, so having her prepared with the background information will be really valuable. You're so kind to say that about my approach - honestly, this community has been what transformed my panic into a plan. When I first posted, I was terrified and had no idea where to even start. Everyone's guidance has given me the confidence that there really are legitimate ways to handle this properly. I will absolutely keep everyone updated on how things progress. This thread has been such a lifeline for me, and if my experience can help someone else in a similar situation down the road, that would make all of this stress worthwhile. Thank you again for all the encouragement and practical suggestions - it means more than you know during such a difficult time.

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm absolutely shocked by what you've been through - 5+ hours on hold is completely unacceptable! Reading through all the incredible advice here has been more educational than anything I've ever gotten from SSA directly. The insider knowledge from Brady about the "critical payment" option and all the success stories with Congressional intervention give me real hope that there are actually effective ways to navigate this broken system. PrinceJoe, I really hope you finally hung up and got some rest after that marathon torture session! Your situation at 90+ days is exactly what Congressional representatives are there to help with. The strategy that's emerged seems solid: try that 8 AM sharp call tomorrow with the "critical payment" approach, but definitely contact your representative's office too since you're way past normal timeframes. It's infuriating that we have to become experts in government bureaucracy just to access our own earned benefits, but this community has armed you with proven tactics from people who've actually won these battles. Thank you everyone for sharing real solutions - this thread is going to help so many others trapped in SSA phone purgatory!

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Ethan, you're absolutely right - this whole thread has been more helpful than any official SSA resource! As someone brand new to this community and unfortunately new to dealing with SSA issues myself, I'm both horrified by PrinceJoe's experience and grateful for all the practical solutions everyone has shared. The fact that a 5+ hour hold session can just end with nobody answering is beyond cruel - it's like they're deliberately torturing people who are already in difficult situations. The strategic advice here has been incredible though! Brady's insider knowledge about "critical payment" requests combined with everyone's Congressional success stories has given me a real roadmap for my own upcoming SSA challenges. PrinceJoe, I'm really hoping you took everyone's advice and finally hung up - you've been through enough! The dual approach of hitting that 8 AM call hard while also contacting your Congressional representative seems like the perfect battle plan. It's absolutely maddening that we have to become government bureaucracy experts just to get services we've paid for our entire working lives, but at least this amazing community has provided real weapons to fight back with. Thank you all for turning frustration into hope!

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As someone completely new to dealing with SSA issues, I'm absolutely appalled by what you've gone through - being kept on hold for over 5 hours only to find out they don't even answer after closing time is beyond unacceptable! This thread has been incredibly eye-opening though. The insider advice from Brady about requesting "critical payment" assistance and all the success stories with Congressional intervention have shown me that there are actually effective ways to fight this broken system. PrinceJoe, I really hope you finally hung up and got some rest after that torturous hold session! Your situation being 90+ days past due is exactly what Congressional representatives are equipped to handle. The strategy everyone has laid out seems perfect: call at exactly 8 AM tomorrow and immediately ask for "critical payment" help, but also reach out to your Congressional representative's office since you're so far beyond normal timeframes. It's absolutely ridiculous that we have to become bureaucratic warfare experts just to access benefits we've earned through decades of paying into the system, but this community has given you a proven battle plan from people who've actually succeeded. Thank you to everyone for turning this nightmare into actionable hope - this thread should be bookmarked by anyone facing SSA phone hell!

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Jamal, you've captured exactly how I'm feeling as a newcomer here! Reading PrinceJoe's 5+ hour nightmare has been both shocking and educational - I had no idea the SSA system could be this broken. But this community response has been absolutely incredible! The combination of Brady's insider knowledge about "critical payment" requests and everyone's real success stories with Congressional intervention gives me hope that there are actually ways to win against this bureaucratic mess. PrinceJoe, I'm really hoping you finally hung up and are planning that strategic 8 AM attack tomorrow - you've definitely earned some rest after that marathon torture session! It's mind-blowing that we have to become tactical experts just to get money we're legally entitled to, but at least now you have a battle-tested playbook from people who've actually conquered the SSA beast. This thread has been more valuable than any official government resource - thank you all for sharing real solutions that actually work!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share my experience with a similar situation that might be helpful. I'm 45 and received an unexpected $62.30 payment from SSA about 6 months ago. Like many others here, I was completely baffled since I'm not receiving any benefits. After reading through all these incredibly detailed responses, I'm kicking myself for not following up at the time! The insights from the former SSA employee about posthumous benefit adjustments and the various professionals who've shared their expertise have been really eye-opening. I had no idea there were so many legitimate reasons for these small payments. Oliver, based on everything I've read here, I think you're in great hands with all this advice. The mySSA account seems like the perfect first step, and you've got a comprehensive list of specific terms to ask about when you call. I'm actually inspired by this thread to finally create my own mySSA account and figure out what my mystery payment was for! Thanks to everyone for sharing such valuable information - this has been one of the most educational threads I've seen about navigating SSA issues.

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Welcome to the community, Lucas! It's really encouraging to see how this thread has helped so many people understand these mysterious SSA payments. Your $62.30 payment sounds just like what Oliver, Katherine, and Carmen experienced - those specific dollar amounts really do suggest legitimate system adjustments rather than errors. I love that this discussion has inspired you to finally create your mySSA account too! It seems like once you see how many valid reasons there are for these payments, it becomes less scary and more just a matter of getting the right information. Oliver is definitely going to be well-prepared for his call with all the terminology and possibilities everyone has shared. This community has been amazing at breaking down what could have been a really stressful situation into manageable steps. Good luck figuring out your own mystery payment - I'd be curious to hear what you discover when you check your account!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add my perspective after reading through all these incredibly helpful responses. I'm a financial advisor and I see clients deal with unexpected government payments fairly regularly. Given that you mentioned your father passed away 6 months ago and this payment appeared in January (which is when SSA processes annual adjustments), there's a very high likelihood this is legitimate and related to his benefits record. One specific scenario I've seen is when a deceased beneficiary had their final benefit calculation adjusted due to late-reported earnings or corrections to their work history, and family members receive small payments as part of the estate settlement process. The $54.50 amount suggests it's a very precise calculation rather than a random error. I'd echo everyone's advice about creating the mySSA account first - in my experience, about 80% of these mystery payments can be explained just by looking at the online payment history and codes. If that doesn't provide clarity, you'll be much better prepared for your phone call with specific information to reference. And definitely don't spend the money until you know what it's for - I've seen too many clients get hit with overpayment demands later. This thread has been incredibly educational even for me professionally!

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Welcome to the community, Alina! Your perspective as a financial advisor really adds credibility to all the advice people have been sharing here. It's reassuring to hear from a professional that 80% of these mystery payments can be explained through the online account - that gives me a lot more confidence about setting up my mySSA account this weekend. The connection you made between the January timing and annual SSA adjustments, combined with my father's passing, really makes sense. I had no idea that late-reported earnings or work history corrections could trigger these kinds of payments to family members months later. Your point about the $54.50 being a "precise calculation rather than random error" is particularly helpful - I was so focused on whether it was legitimate that I didn't consider how the specific amount itself indicates it's likely a real system-generated payment. Thanks for sharing your professional experience with these situations. This entire thread has transformed what started as a scary mystery into something I feel prepared to investigate properly!

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm actually in a reverse situation - I'm 63 and considering applying for SSDI due to chronic health issues, while my wife is already collecting her Social Security retirement benefits (she's 69). Her monthly benefit is only $1,200, but if I get approved for SSDI, my estimated benefit would be around $2,400. From reading all these responses, it sounds like she might be able to get spousal benefits based on my SSDI record once I'm approved, even though she's already on retirement benefits. Has anyone dealt with this reverse scenario where the younger spouse gets SSDI after the older spouse is already on retirement? I want to make sure I understand this correctly before going through the SSDI application process.

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Yes, your understanding is absolutely correct! Your situation is just the reverse of what the original poster dealt with, and the same principles apply. Once you're approved for SSDI, your wife should be able to apply for spousal benefits based on your SSDI record, even though she's already collecting her own retirement benefits. Since your estimated SSDI benefit ($2,400) is double her current benefit ($1,200), she would potentially be eligible for an additional $200 per month (bringing her up to 50% of your benefit amount). The key point that's been emphasized throughout this thread is that SSDI is treated exactly the same as retirement benefits for spousal benefit calculations. Just like TechNinja had to actively apply for the spousal benefits, your wife would need to contact SSA once your SSDI is approved - they typically don't make these adjustments automatically. Good luck with your SSDI application, and don't forget to have your wife apply for the spousal benefits once you're approved!

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This has been such an incredibly informative discussion! As someone who works with seniors navigating Social Security benefits, I can't stress enough how valuable this real-world experience sharing is. What strikes me most is how TechNinja's success story demonstrates that persistence and knowledge really pay off - literally in this case! For anyone else reading this thread who might be in a similar situation, I'd add one more tip: if you're married and one spouse is receiving SSDI while the other is on retirement benefits, it's worth reviewing your situation annually. Sometimes people's circumstances change (like cost of living adjustments affecting benefit amounts) that could make spousal benefits newly available or more advantageous. Also, keep in mind that this spousal benefit eligibility works both ways - whether it's the older spouse on retirement and younger spouse on SSDI (like TechNinja's situation) or vice versa (like Dylan's upcoming situation). The $300 monthly increase TechNinja secured could amount to over $3,600 annually - that's significant money that many people are leaving on the table simply because they don't know these rules exist!

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This is such excellent advice about reviewing benefits annually! As someone new to understanding Social Security, I hadn't considered that benefit amounts could change over time and potentially make spousal benefits newly available. The point about this working "both ways" regardless of which spouse is older really helps clarify the rules. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been eye-opening - I had no idea so many people were potentially missing out on additional benefits simply due to lack of awareness. The $3,600 annual impact you mentioned really puts it in perspective! I'm going to share this thread with my parents who are both on Social Security to see if they might be in a similar situation. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise - this community is amazing for helping people navigate these complex benefit rules!

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I'm in a very similar situation and have been researching this extensively! Just wanted to add a few practical tips that helped me: 1) You can use the SSA's online benefit calculators to get a rough estimate of your spousal benefit, but they don't show the exact reduction amounts. I found it helpful to call during off-peak hours (mid-week, mid-morning) to get through to an agent faster. 2) Make sure you understand the timing - you won't be eligible for any spousal benefits until your husband actually files for his own benefits, even if he's reached FRA. So if he decides to delay past 67 to get delayed retirement credits, your spousal benefit also gets delayed. 3) One silver lining about the spousal benefit reduction: it's calculated as a percentage of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), not his potentially higher benefit if he delays. So while you get less than 50%, the base amount it's calculated from stays the same regardless of when he claims. The whole system is needlessly complicated, but at least your husband's income won't be an issue for your benefits. That was my biggest worry too! Hope this helps with your planning.

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This is incredibly helpful information, thank you! I hadn't thought about the timing issue with my husband potentially delaying past his FRA. That's definitely something we need to discuss - if he decides to wait until 70 for the delayed retirement credits, I'd have to wait even longer for any spousal benefits. Your tip about calling during off-peak hours is great too. I've been trying to call during lunch breaks which is probably the worst time. And it's good to know the spousal benefit is based on his PIA rather than his actual benefit amount if he delays - that makes the math a bit more predictable. Thanks for taking the time to share all these practical details. It really helps to hear from someone else who's done the deep dive on these rules!

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I'm facing a similar decision and this thread has been incredibly helpful! Just to add one more perspective - I spoke with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning, and she mentioned that many people overlook the "do-over" option. If you claim at 62 but then change your mind within the first 12 months, you can withdraw your application, pay back what you've received (without interest), and restart at a later age with higher benefits. It's not ideal since you have to pay everything back, but it could be a safety net if your health or financial situation improves unexpectedly. Also, for anyone reading this who's married - make sure you consider the survivor benefit implications too. If you're the lower earner and claim early, it doesn't just reduce your own benefits, it can also reduce what your spouse would receive as a survivor benefit if you pass away first. That's another complex calculation but worth understanding. The earnings test clarification about spousal income not counting is such a relief though - that would have been a nightmare to track and report!

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That's a really important point about the "do-over" option! I had no idea that existed. Even though paying everything back sounds daunting, it's reassuring to know there's at least some flexibility if circumstances change dramatically in that first year. The survivor benefit angle is something I definitely need to research more. My husband and I have been so focused on our own retirement benefits that we haven't really thought through all the implications for the surviving spouse. That could be a significant factor in the timing decision, especially since I'm planning to claim early. Thanks for mentioning the financial advisor option too. I've been trying to figure this out on my own, but having someone who specializes in Social Security planning might be worth the cost to make sure I'm not missing any important considerations. Do you mind sharing how you found yours? I'm not sure where to start looking for someone with that specific expertise.

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I found my advisor through the National Association of Personal Financial Advisors (NAPFA) website - they have a search feature where you can filter for advisors who specialize in Social Security planning. I also looked for someone who charges a flat fee for Social Security analysis rather than managing assets, since I just needed help with this specific decision. One thing to watch out for - make sure any advisor you consider is actually credentialed in Social Security planning. There are some specific certifications like the National Social Security Advisor (NSSA) designation that show they've had specialized training beyond general financial planning. The survivor benefit analysis was eye-opening for me. It turns out that if I claim early and pass away first, my husband's survivor benefit would be based on my reduced amount rather than what I would have received at full retirement age. That definitely factored into our decision-making process, especially since men statistically have shorter lifespans. The do-over option gave me some peace of mind too, even though I hope I won't need to use it. Just knowing it exists made claiming at 62 feel less like a permanent mistake if my health situation improves.

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