Social Security earnings limit confusion - reduced benefits despite staying under monthly threshold after retirement
I retired from my job as a retail manager at the end of March 2025 (5 months before my FRA). Started collecting Social Security in April while working a part-time gig at a local bookstore. I've been SUPER careful to stay under the monthly earnings limit ($2,340) since starting benefits. Haven't gone over once! But just got this letter saying my monthly SS payment is being reduced! I know I made like $28,000 in the first quarter of the year before retiring, which obviously exceeds the annual limit. But I thought if I stayed under the MONTHLY limit after I start collecting, I'd be ok? Does SSA look at the whole year's income even if I properly stayed under the limit once I started collecting? This seems so unfair - I deliberately cut my hours to avoid going over! Can someone explain what's happening here?
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Louisa Ramirez
Unfortunately, SSA applies the annual earnings test in your first year of retirement differently than you might expect. Even though you're staying under the monthly limit after you started receiving benefits, they still consider your total earnings for the year. Since you earned $28,000 before retirement, you're well over the annual limit (about $22,320 for 2025 if you're under FRA the whole year). The monthly earnings test only helps in the first year of retirement if your annual earnings would be under the yearly limit, but your earnings in certain months exceed the monthly limit. You should contact SSA directly to verify exactly how they're calculating your reduction. They'll withhold benefits based on how much you exceeded the annual limit, usually $1 in benefits for every $2 over the limit.
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Marilyn Dixon
•Thanks for the explanation. That's really frustrating! I specifically asked the SSA rep when I filed if I just needed to stay under the monthly limit after I started collecting, and they said yes. So basically I'm being penalized for working full-time before I even started collecting SS? Is there any appeal process for this kind of thing?
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TommyKapitz
This EXACT thing happened to me last year. The system is completely broken! I retired in May, started benefits in June, stayed carefully under the monthly limits the rest of the year, and still got hit with reductions. When I called, I waited FOUR HOURS only to be told "that's just how it works sir" with zero explanation. Tried calling back three more times and either got disconnected or told different things each time. The left hand doesn't know what the right is doing at SSA!
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Angel Campbell
•u can appeal this, my neighbor got same letter n fought it. took months tho
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Payton Black
What I don't understand is why they have the monthly rule at all if they're still going to count your pre-retirement earnings? I'm planning to retire in August (4 months before my FRA) and now I'm worried the same thing will happen to me. I've already earned about $35,000 this year. Should I just wait until I hit FRA to avoid all this mess?
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Harold Oh
•The monthly earnings test is specifically designed for the first year of retirement, but its purpose is often misunderstood. It only helps in situations where you would NOT exceed the annual limit, but might have a month or two where you earned more than the monthly limit. For example, if someone retires in January but gets a large bonus payment that month that exceeds the monthly limit, the monthly test would protect them from benefit reductions as long as they stay under the limit all other months and don't exceed the annual limit. If you're already at $35,000 for the year, waiting until FRA would be the cleanest approach. Once you reach FRA, there's no earnings limit at all.
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Amun-Ra Azra
i think ur misunderstanding how the earnings limit works. call ssa and they'll explain it to you. there's a grace year rule for the first year u retire but it doesn't work like u think.
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Marilyn Dixon
•Thanks, I'll definitely call them. Has anyone had success getting through? Last time I tried it was over 2 hours on hold and then I got disconnected.
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Summer Green
I spent THREE DAYS trying to reach someone at Social Security about this exact issue last month! Every time I called, it was either busy signals or being on hold for hours only to get disconnected. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent explained that the monthly earnings test is only helpful in specific situations during your first year of retirement. Turns out I had completely misunderstood how it works too. At least I got a clear explanation and was able to plan accordingly.
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Angel Campbell
•does this actually work? seems sketchy
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Summer Green
It's not sketchy at all - they just help you get through the SSA phone system faster. The agent I spoke with was an actual SSA employee. Saved me hours of frustration!
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Marilyn Dixon
•Thanks, I might try this. I've been trying to get through for days with no luck. At this point I'm desperate for some answers about my reduced payment.
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Louisa Ramirez
To clarify on the "grace year" monthly earnings test that a few people mentioned: This special rule only applies in the first year you claim benefits. For any month during that first year where you earn below the monthly limit AND you did not perform "substantial services in self-employment," that month's benefit should be paid regardless of your annual earnings. However, there's an important detail many people miss: If you worked for wages (not self-employed), SSA defines "retirement" as when you substantially reduced your work hours and earnings. If you were working full-time until March and then switched to part-time, SSA should apply this monthly test starting in April. I recommend requesting an explanation of their calculation in writing. You should also ask specifically why the monthly earnings test wasn't applied in your case, as it sounds like you might qualify.
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TommyKapitz
•This is NOT how it worked for me. I reduced from 40+ hours to 15 hours a week when I retired, stayed well under the monthly limit after starting benefits, and they STILL reduced my payments because of my pre-retirement earnings. The rep told me the monthly test only applies if your ANNUAL earnings are also under the limit. Complete bureaucratic nonsense.
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Marilyn Dixon
Update: I FINALLY got through to someone at SSA after trying for days. The agent explained that I misunderstood how the monthly earnings test works. She said that in the first year of retirement, they look at any month where I earned under the limit AND didn't perform "substantial services" as a month I should receive benefits, regardless of my annual total. But here's the catch - they're saying my part-time work still counts as "substantial services" even though I'm earning under the monthly limit! Apparently because I'm working more than 15 hours weekly at the bookstore (I work about 22 hours), they're considering it substantial work. This feels like a complete gotcha - stay under the earnings limit but still get penalized because of hours? I'm going to request a formal review. This just doesn't seem right.
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Harold Oh
•The "substantial services" rule primarily applies to self-employment, not wage employment. For regular employment, they should only be looking at your earnings, not your hours. It sounds like the representative may have confused the two tests or incorrectly applied self-employment rules to your wage employment situation. Definitely request a formal review and bring documentation showing: 1. When you reduced your work from full-time to part-time 2. Your monthly earnings after starting benefits 3. That you're a wage earner, not self-employed The "substantial services" hour limit should not apply to your bookstore job if you're a regular employee (W-2, not 1099).
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Payton Black
Reading through all this, I'm seriously considering just waiting until I hit my FRA to avoid this mess altogether. The rules are way more complicated than they initially appear, and it sounds like even the SSA reps give conflicting information. Losing a few months of benefits might be worth avoiding the headache!
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Louisa Ramirez
•That's often the simplest solution if you're close to your FRA and still working. Once you reach FRA, you can earn unlimited amounts without any reduction to your benefits. If you're only a few months away, it might be worth waiting just for the peace of mind.
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