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My daughter (31) has been on SSI since she was diagnosed with severe autism at age 3. Last month, my husband filed for his retirement benefits and we were told our daughter could now receive benefits on his record instead of SSI. The monthly payment is about $1,750 which is significantly higher than her SSI was.Here's where I'm confused - when I called SSA to ask a question about her Medicare coverage, the rep called it 'SSDI' but the letter we received says 'Child's Benefits' and mentioned something about 'DAC' (disabled adult child). Are these the same thing? What's the correct name for what she's getting? I want to make sure I'm using the right terms when dealing with Social Security in the future. Also, does this type of benefit have different rules than regular disability?
I'm planning to retire and claim Social Security in July 2025 (I'm 64, before my FRA). But I'm confused about the earnings test. By June, I'll have earned about $40,000 from my job. Since that already exceeds the 2025 annual limit of $23,400 for early retirees, does this mean I can't receive ANY Social Security payments for the rest of the year (July-December)? Or does SSA somehow prorate it since I'm retiring midyear? Does the earnings clock reset when I stop working, and I just need to stay under $1,950 per month from July through December? Really confused about how this works with midyear retirement!
One last important point about the earnings test: Once you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), the earnings test no longer applies. So this is only a temporary concern until you reach your FRA, at which point you can earn unlimited income without any reduction in benefits. And any benefits withheld due to the earnings test before FRA will result in a small permanent increase to your monthly benefit once you reach FRA.
Just wanted to add one more tip from my experience - when you do apply, make sure to keep detailed records of your monthly earnings after retirement. SSA may ask for verification later, and having pay stubs or other documentation ready can save you a lot of headaches. Also, if you're planning any freelance or contract work after retiring, be extra careful about how payments are structured. Sometimes payments for work done before retirement but paid after can still count toward your earnings in the month received. I learned this the hard way when a client paid me in August for work I completed in May - it still counted as August earnings even though the work was done months earlier!
Just checked my most recent Social Security statement and I'm completely confused why my benefit estimate DROPPED! I've had my 40 credits for years (earned those back in my 30s), so I thought my benefit amount was pretty much locked in by now. I'm a real estate broker in Central Florida working as an independent contractor (1099), and like everyone else here, my income took a serious nosedive in 2024. The market's been absolutely brutal. But I had no idea that having lower income at age 61 would actually REDUCE my future SS benefit amount. Can someone explain how this works? I always thought SS was based on your 35 highest-earning years, so how does one bad year this late in my career hurt me? Is there anything I can do to fix this now, or am I just stuck with permanently lower benefits because I had ONE bad year right before retirement?
Thank you all for your insights! I feel much better understanding that this is just a projection and not set in stone. I'm going to focus on trying to increase my income in these final working years and possibly consider working until 68 instead of 67 to help offset this down year. I'll also look into getting a proper analysis done of my claiming strategy to see if waiting until 70 makes sense in my situation. Really appreciate all the detailed explanations about how the calculations work - the SSA should explain this more clearly on their statements!
That sounds like a solid plan. One additional suggestion: Consider creating an account on the SSA website if you haven't already. You can access your earnings record there and verify that all your past earnings have been correctly reported. Sometimes errors in the earnings record can affect benefit calculations, and it's much easier to correct these sooner rather than later.
Great advice from everyone here! As someone who went through a similar situation a few years ago, I wanted to add that you might also want to consider looking at your complete earnings history on the SSA website to see exactly which years are currently being used in your calculation. Since you mentioned you're 61, you likely have more than 35 years of earnings already recorded. Sometimes a low-income year will replace a zero-income year in the calculation (which actually helps), but other times it might replace a higher-earning year from earlier in your career (which hurts). Understanding exactly what's happening in your specific case can help you decide whether it's worth pushing yourself to earn more in the next few years or if you're better off focusing on your claiming strategy instead. The real estate market is definitely cyclical - I've seen colleagues have their worst year followed by their best year. Don't let one tough year derail your entire retirement plan!
I'm turning 65 next month and finally planning to apply for my Social Security retirement benefits. Based on my earnings record, I should get about $1,400/month as a single person. But here's my situation - I've been dating someone for a few years, and we've been talking about getting married. Yesterday, my neighbor (who's 72) told me I'd lose some of my Social Security if I get married! Is this true? She said that's why she and her boyfriend live together but won't get married. I'm really confused because I worked my whole life for these benefits, and the thought of getting less just because I get married seems unfair. Has anyone dealt with this? Would my $1,400 really go down if I get married? I don't understand why marriage would affect benefits I earned through my own work.
Yes, you're thinking of the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO). These can reduce Social Security benefits for people who worked in jobs not covered by Social Security (like some government or teaching positions) and receive pensions from that work. Marriage itself doesn't trigger these provisions - they apply based on your own work history and pension receipt. But they can affect spousal benefits in some circumstances.
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact worry! I got married at 67 and was terrified my benefits would change. They didn't - not one penny. My $1,200/month stayed exactly the same. The SSA rep I finally reached (after many tries!) explained it perfectly: your OWN retirement benefits based on YOUR work record are completely separate from marriage. They're yours no matter what. The only time marriage affects things is with survivor benefits, spousal benefits, or SSI. Since you earned those benefits through your own work history, marriage actually opens up MORE potential benefits (like spousal benefits if your partner has higher SS). Don't let fear of losing benefits stop you from happiness - that's exactly what I almost did and I'm so glad I didn't!
I'm totally confused about this spousal benefit situation and hoping someone can explain what's happening. My husband started collecting his Social Security at 70 in March 2025 ($3,950/month). I just filed for my own benefits last month (I'm 66, born in 1959) so I'm taking them before my FRA which I know means a reduction. I got my Benefits Verification letter yesterday showing $1,450/month, which matches what my SS account showed for early filing. But here's what's confusing me - there's absolutely NO mention of any spousal benefits in the letter! My husband's FRA benefit (not his age 70 amount) is around $3,200, which is WAY more than double my benefit. So I should qualify for some spousal excess, right? Even with the reduction for filing early. I called SSA yesterday and the person said there was no record of me applying for spousal benefits at all, so they scheduled me for a phone appointment on January 16th. I got the confirmation email right away. But this morning my husband got an email from SSA about a phone appointment on January 17th that HE never requested! What's going on? We've been married for 42 years! I thought the whole 'deemed filing' rule meant SSA would automatically look at all benefits I might qualify for. I even specifically wrote in the 'Notes' section of my application that I was applying for spousal excess! I haven't worked since 2007, so my own benefit is pretty small. We both paid into Social Security our whole careers. Can anyone explain why they scheduled my husband for an appointment too? And I thought deemed filing was automatic - isn't that how it works?
the appointment thing is totally normal. my wife and I went through this last year. they need info from both of you because they're checking his records too. just make sure you both answer the phone when they call!
I went through something very similar when I applied for benefits last year! The deemed filing rule definitely applies to your situation, but SSA's processing can be frustratingly slow and disjointed. What you're experiencing is unfortunately pretty common - they process your own retirement benefit first, then handle the spousal component separately even though you filed for both under deemed filing. The fact that they scheduled separate appointments for both you and your husband is actually a good sign - it means they're actively working on processing your spousal benefits. They need to verify information from both of your records before they can calculate and add the spousal excess to your monthly payment. A few tips from my experience: 1) Keep all your confirmation emails for the appointments, 2) Have your marriage certificate handy if they ask for it, and 3) Don't be surprised if the process takes a few more weeks even after the appointments. The good news is that once everything is processed, you'll get backpay to your original filing date for the spousal portion. Your calculation sounds right - with your husband's higher benefit amount, you should definitely qualify for spousal excess even with the early filing reduction. Hang in there, it will get sorted out!
Paolo Moretti
Yes, you should definitely inform the day program about the change from SSI to DAC benefits. Some Medicaid-funded programs have different eligibility rules for SSI recipients vs other benefit types. The good news is that most states have provisions to continue Medicaid eligibility for people who were on SSI and switched to DAC (sometimes called the
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Malik Johnson
@1fc9274a6d6e looks like your comment got cut off there - you mentioned something about states having provisions to continue Medicaid eligibility when switching from SSI to DAC? I'm really hoping you can finish that thought because this is exactly what I'm worried about with my daughter's day program eligibility.
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Bruce David
I have a 35 year old disabled daughter that currently receives SSDI, Medicare and Medicaid. Her SSDI payments are based on her own work record, since she has worked apprx 10-15 hours a week at a local grocery store. SSD1 was awarded based on a at birth disability. I have retired and it may be more advantagous to transistion her to DAC. I understand that if she is awarded DAC and subsequently gets married to a non DAC receipt, she would lose DAC payments. Would she also lose
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