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Social Security COLA increases - do I need to be collecting benefits at 62 to get the full amount?

I'm turning 62 next April but planning to wait until 67 to claim my Social Security retirement benefits. With all the talk about the 2025 COLA increase coming in January, I'm confused about how this affects me. Do I need to actually be receiving Social Security payments in January to get the benefit of this COLA increase? Or will my future benefit amount still reflect all the COLA increases that happened while I was waiting to claim? My brother-in-law insists I'm losing money by not claiming now before the COLA kicks in, but that doesn't sound right to me. Can someone clarify how COLA works for those of us who haven't started collecting yet?

My wife was confused about this same thing! We thought we had to claim right away to get the COLA. Turns out we didn't need to worry. Just FYI though - while COLA adjustments are applied whether you're collecting or not, earnings adjustments (if you're still working) only happen until you start collecting. At least that's what the SSA rep told us.

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That's a good point about earnings adjustments! I am still working full-time, so that's another reason waiting makes sense for me. Thanks for bringing that up!

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I'm glad you asked this question because it's such a common misconception! As others have confirmed, you absolutely do NOT need to be collecting benefits to receive COLA increases. The Social Security Administration automatically applies all COLAs to your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) from age 62 onward, whether you're collecting or not. Your strategy to wait until 67 is smart - you'll get: ✓ All COLA increases from age 62 forward ✓ Your full benefit amount (no early claiming reduction) ✓ Plus any delayed retirement credits if you wait past 67 Your brother-in-law means well, but he's giving you bad advice. The SSA's computer systems handle all of this automatically. You're making the financially sound decision by waiting, especially since you're still working. Don't let anyone pressure you into claiming early unless you actually need the income!

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Will taking SS retirement at 65 reduce my wife's spousal benefits at 69?

I've been trying to find a straight answer on this spousal benefit question for months! My situation: I'm 63 and plan to wait until my Full Retirement Age (67) to claim my Social Security benefits. My monthly benefit should be around $2,800 at that point. My wife just turned 65 and wants to start collecting her own Social Security now (about $1,050/month) since it's not very high. When I claim at 67, she'll be 69. We're wondering if her taking her own benefits now will permanently reduce her spousal benefits when she applies for them at 69. The Social Security rep gave us conflicting information, and our financial advisor seemed confused too. Will she get 50% of my benefit minus some penalty for claiming her own early? Or will she just get the higher of the two amounts? I don't want her to make a mistake that costs us thousands over the long run.

pls update us after u talk to SSA! we r in similar spot but im the higher earner (wife). wanna know what happens!

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Will do! I'm going to try to get an appointment at our local office to get this all in writing.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! My wife took her benefits at 65 ($980/month) and I waited until my FRA at 67. When I filed, she did get a spousal increase, but it was calculated exactly like Hannah explained - they used our PIAs, not the actual benefit amounts. Her total went from $980 to $1,165, which was her reduced benefit plus the difference between 50% of my PIA and her full PIA. The key thing is to get your benefit estimates from SSA beforehand so you can calculate this yourself. Also, make sure to apply for the spousal benefit - it's not automatic! You have to specifically request it when the higher earner files. Good luck!

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Will my reduced Social Security at 62 affect spousal benefits when husband claims at FRA?

I started collecting Social Security last month at age 62 (I know, early, but needed the income). My benefit is about $1,450/month which is definitely lower than if I'd waited. My husband is 64 and plans to keep working until either 65 or his full retirement age of 67. When he finally claims his benefits (which will be much higher, around $3,200/month if he waits until FRA), I want to apply for spousal benefits. Here's what I'm confused about - will my spousal benefit be permanently reduced because I took my own benefit early? Or will I get 50% of his amount regardless of when I started mine? Everything I read online gives conflicting information. Does anyone know how this actually works? Thanks in advance for helping me understand this complicated system!

This whole system makes me SO ANGRY. Why do they make everything so confusing??? I swear they do it on purpose so people make mistakes and get less money. My neighbor told me there's actually a special handbook SSA employees use that has all the REAL rules that they don't tell us about.

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While there's no secret handbook, the Program Operations Manual System (POMS) is the internal guidance used by SSA employees. It's actually publicly available online, but it's extremely technical and difficult for non-experts to navigate. The rules are indeed complex, but they're not deliberately designed to reduce benefits - they've just evolved through decades of legislative changes and amendments to the Social Security Act.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from meeting with a fee-only financial planner who specializes in Social Security. Since you're only one month in, you have a unique opportunity that most people don't get. The withdrawal option (Form SSA-521) is definitely worth calculating carefully. Here's what to consider: your current $1,450 at 62 would grow to roughly $2,070 at your FRA of 67. That's an 8% annual increase for each year you delay - hard to find that kind of guaranteed return anywhere else. But the real game-changer might be coordinating with your husband's strategy. If his benefit at FRA will be $3,200, waiting until 70 would give him about $4,220/month. Since you'll likely inherit his benefit as a survivor benefit someday, maximizing HIS benefit could be more important than fixing your own. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: consider consulting with a Social Security specialist before making any final decisions. The $300-500 consultation fee could save you tens of thousands over your lifetime. This stuff is way too complicated to figure out from online forums alone (though this community has been incredibly helpful!).

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Great question! I found my specialist through the National Social Security Association (NSSA) website - they have a directory of advisors who have completed their specialized training program. Look for someone with the NSSA credential or a CFP who specifically focuses on Social Security planning. Also check if your area has any local AARP chapters that offer free Social Security workshops - while not as personalized as one-on-one consulting, they can be a good starting point to understand your options better. One red flag to avoid: anyone who charges a percentage of your benefits or asks for upfront fees beyond a reasonable consultation charge. Legitimate Social Security specialists typically charge flat fees for advice and analysis. Given that you're still in that critical 12-month withdrawal window, I'd really encourage you to get professional input soon rather than later. Time is your friend here, but only if you act quickly!

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For finding qualified Social Security specialists, I'd recommend looking for fee-only financial planners who have earned their Retirement Income Certified Professional (RICP) designation or are National Social Security Advisors (NSSA) certified. The National Association of Personal Financial Advisors (NAPFA) website has a search tool where you can filter for advisors who specialize in Social Security planning. Make sure they charge a flat fee for the consultation rather than trying to sell you investment products. A good specialist should be able to run multiple scenarios showing the lifetime value of different claiming strategies for both you and your husband. Given that you're still within the 12-month withdrawal window, this consultation could literally be worth six figures over your combined lifetimes when you factor in spousal benefits, survivor benefits, and the coordination with your husband's strategy. Don't rush this decision!

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Social Security Survivor Benefits: Monthly vs Annual Earnings Limit Confusion in 2025

Since my wife passed away 8 months ago, I've been receiving Social Security survivor benefits while working part-time. I understand there's a 2025 annual earnings limit of $22,320 for people under FRA, and I'm trying to stay under it to avoid the benefit reduction. My problem is that I work in construction, so my income varies A LOT season to season. During some summer months, I've gone over the monthly limit of $1,860, but other months I barely work at all (especially winter). I'm confused about how SSA calculates the reduction. Do they reduce my survivor benefits when I go over the MONTHLY limit, or is it just based on my TOTAL yearly income? Some months I've earned almost $3,000, but I'm still on track to earn less than $22,320 for the entire year. Does anyone know for sure how this works? Will I get penalized for those high-earning months even if my yearly total stays under the limit? I'm worried about getting an overpayment notice later.

As a newcomer to this community who's currently dealing with survivor benefits and variable income, I want to thank everyone for creating such an incredibly helpful and comprehensive discussion! I work as a freelance wedding photographer and videographer, which means my income is heavily concentrated during wedding season (May through October), with much slower winter months when bookings are minimal. Like so many others here, I've been extremely worried that those busy wedding season months where I might earn $3,500+ would automatically trigger benefit reductions, even though my annual total will definitely stay under the $22,320 limit due to the significant drop-off in bookings during winter months. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so reassuring and educational. The "work activity report" option that @Oliver Schulz discovered through his SSA call is exactly what I needed to know about - I had no idea that seasonal income patterns could be documented proactively to prevent confusion and potential overpayment issues later. All the practical strategies shared here have given me a clear roadmap: track monthly earnings in a spreadsheet, contact SSA early to document my seasonal pattern, and use services like Claimyr if needed to actually reach a representative without waiting on hold for hours. It's such a relief to understand that the annual earnings limit is what ultimately matters for the test, not those temporary monthly spikes during peak wedding season. I'm planning to call SSA next week to set up my own work activity report for freelance wedding photography/videography work. The seasonal nature of the wedding industry should be very understandable to them - most weddings happen during warmer months, with a natural drop-off during winter. This thread has transformed my understanding from anxiety and confusion to confidence and clarity about how to properly navigate the survivor benefits system with variable income. Thank you all for sharing your real experiences and creating such a supportive community. This discussion is going to help countless people in seasonal work understand these complex benefit rules!

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Welcome to the community @Adrian Hughes! I'm so sorry for your loss. As someone who's also new here and learning to navigate survivor benefits with variable income, it's been incredible to see how this thread has brought together people from so many different seasonal industries - and wedding photography/videography is such a perfect example of work that naturally clusters during specific months of the year. Your situation with heavy earnings during wedding season (May-October) followed by much quieter winter months is exactly the type of predictable seasonal pattern that the "work activity report" seems designed to handle. When you call SSA next week, the wedding industry's natural seasonal cycle should be very easy for them to understand and document - everyone knows that most couples get married during warmer months! It's amazing how @Oliver Schulz s'initial success story has given all of us the confidence and knowledge to tackle these SSA calls ourselves. This thread really has become the most comprehensive resource I ve'found anywhere for understanding how survivor benefits work with seasonal and freelance income. Your plan to get that seasonal pattern documented proactively is so smart - having SSA understand upfront that wedding season creates those income spikes followed by naturally quiet winter months should prevent any confusion when they review your earnings later. Thank you for adding the wedding photography perspective to this growing collection of experiences. This community keeps getting stronger with each person s'story! Best of luck with your call next week.

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As a newcomer to this community who just started receiving survivor benefits last month, I want to express my deep gratitude for this incredibly thorough and reassuring discussion! I work as a freelance ski instructor and summer hiking guide, which creates an extreme seasonal income pattern - I earn most of my money during winter ski season (December-March) and summer hiking season (June-September), with very little income during the transition months of April-May and October-November. Like so many others who have shared here, I've been losing sleep worrying that those peak season months where I might earn $2,800-3,200+ would automatically trigger benefit reductions, even though my annual total will definitely stay well under the $22,320 limit due to those slower transition periods. This entire thread has been absolutely life-changing for my understanding of how survivor benefits actually work with variable income. The "work activity report" option that @Oliver Schulz discovered is exactly the solution I desperately needed to know about - I had no idea SSA could document these seasonal patterns proactively to prevent issues down the road. The wealth of practical advice shared here has given me such a clear path forward: monthly earnings tracking in a spreadsheet, proactive communication with SSA about my dual-season pattern, and using services like Claimyr to actually reach representatives efficiently. It's such a tremendous relief to learn that annual earnings are what ultimately determine eligibility, not temporary monthly fluctuations during peak seasons. I'm calling SSA this Friday to set up my own work activity report for seasonal outdoor recreation instruction. The dual-season nature of my work (winter skiing, summer hiking) should be very understandable as a natural pattern tied to weather and tourist seasons. This community has transformed my anxiety into confidence about properly navigating the survivor benefits system. Thank you all for creating such a supportive environment and sharing your real-world experiences. This discussion will undoubtedly help countless others in seasonal work understand these complex benefit rules!

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Welcome to the community @Sofia Peña! I'm so sorry for your loss. As someone who's also new here and dealing with survivor benefits, it's been amazing to see how this thread has brought together people from such a wide variety of seasonal work - and your dual-season outdoor recreation instruction (winter skiing, summer hiking) is such a unique example of how variable income can work across multiple peak periods throughout the year. Your situation with earnings concentrated during both winter ski season and summer hiking season, separated by those quieter transition months, creates such an interesting pattern that should be very easy for SSA to understand and document. When you call this Friday, the fact that your work is directly tied to weather patterns and tourist seasons makes it a perfect candidate for that "work activity report" that everyone has found so helpful. It's really encouraging to see how this discussion continues to help newcomers like us understand that we're not alone in dealing with these seasonal income challenges. The transformation from anxiety to confidence that you described really captures what this thread has done for so many of us - turning confusion about complex benefit rules into a clear roadmap for success. Your dual-season pattern adds yet another perspective to this incredible collection of seasonal work experiences. Thank you for sharing your situation, and best of luck with your SSA call on Friday! This community will be here if you want to share what you learn from the experience.

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Can I collect Social Security retirement and unemployment at the same time in Indiana?

I'm turning 65 in June and planning to start my Social Security retirement benefits then. But my company just announced possible layoffs in April, and I might be affected. If I get laid off, I'd need to apply for unemployment benefits in Indiana. Can I legally receive both unemployment and Social Security at the same time? Would one reduce the other? I'm trying to plan my finances and don't want to accidentally do something wrong. Has anyone been in this situation before?

I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share what I learned when I was in a similar situation last year. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track both income sources and set aside money for taxes monthly. Since you're in Indiana, you're fortunate that the state doesn't reduce unemployment benefits for Social Security recipients. However, I'd strongly recommend: 1. Contact your local Indiana WorkOne office - they're usually more helpful than trying to get through to the state unemployment line 2. Consider whether delaying Social Security until your FRA might be worth it financially, especially if unemployment benefits can tide you over 3. If you do collect both, have taxes withheld from both sources if possible - it's much easier than dealing with quarterly payments The folks here have given you great advice about the legality and logistics. Just remember that being "able and available" for work on unemployment means you need to genuinely be job searching, even if you're also collecting Social Security. Good luck with everything!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share some additional resources that might help with your situation. I recently went through a similar transition and found a few things that made the process smoother: 1. The Indiana Department of Workforce Development has a really helpful online chat feature that's often faster than calling - you can access it through their website during business hours. 2. For Social Security questions, try calling first thing in the morning (8 AM EST) or right after lunch (1 PM EST) - those seem to be the times with shorter hold times. 3. Consider setting up online accounts for both systems now, before you need them. The my Social Security account at ssa.gov and the Uplink system for Indiana unemployment both let you manage things online and avoid some phone calls. 4. If you do end up collecting both, keep detailed records of all payments and any correspondence. It makes tax time much easier and protects you if there are any questions later. The advice everyone has given you about the legality and tax implications is spot-on. Indiana really is one of the better states for this situation since they don't offset the benefits against each other. Just make sure you stay compliant with the work search requirements for unemployment - they do audit those periodically. Good luck with everything!

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Welcome to the community, Esmeralda! Thank you for these practical tips - especially about the online chat feature for Indiana DWD. I've been dreading having to call and wait on hold for hours, so knowing there's a chat option is a huge relief. Your suggestion about setting up the online accounts in advance is really smart. I should probably do that this week while I'm still employed and have time to deal with any setup issues. And the timing tips for calling Social Security are gold - I'll definitely try those windows if I need to call. The record-keeping advice is something I wouldn't have thought of but makes total sense. Between unemployment, Social Security, and potential severance, there's going to be a lot of paperwork to track. I'll start a dedicated folder now. It's so reassuring to hear from people who've actually been through this process. This community has been incredibly helpful with both the technical details and the practical realities of managing multiple benefit systems. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience!

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