Social Security benefits after earnings limit exceeded - recalculating benefits post-FRA
I need help understanding how my wife's Social Security benefit will be recalculated. Here's our situation: My wife claimed SS early at age 63 in 2021 during the pandemic. Her monthly payment was $3,150. She had no income that year other than SS. In February 2022, she got an opportunity to return to her career and earned approximately $124K that year. She continued working through 2023, making about the same amount. In January 2024, we received a notice from SSA saying she wasn't eligible for any benefits during 2022 and 2023 due to exceeding the earnings limit. They stopped her payments around April 2024. I thought this would help repay what we owe them. She's continuing to work through 2024 and 2025, with earnings around $250K annually. She reached her Full Retirement Age (FRA) in February 2024. We visited our local SSA office and even spoke with a supervisor who couldn't tell us how her benefit will be recalculated once she stops working or reaches 70. Does anyone know how they'll determine her new payment amount? Will they give credit for the months her benefits were withheld due to the earnings limit? This is so frustrating - we're trying to plan for retirement and can't get a straight answer from SSA themselves!
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Hiroshi Nakamura
Dealing with the earnings limit is SO ANNOYING! The same thing happened to my brother last year. The way I understand it, once she reached FRA (which was Feb 2024 for her), the SSA should automatically start recalculating her benefit. They'll give her credit for all those months they withheld benefits because she was working. They call this "adjustment to the reduction factor" or ARF. Basically, for every month they withheld benefits, they'll bump up her monthly amount a little bit. It's like getting a partial do-over for claiming early. But good luck getting anyone at SSA to explain it clearly!!! I spent HOURS on the phone trying to get someone to explain my brother's situation.
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GamerGirl99
•Thank you for explaining about the ARF - I hadn't heard that term before. Do you know if they'll automatically restart her payments at FRA, or do we need to contact them? It's been 2 months since she reached FRA and we haven't heard anything or received any payments.
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Isabella Costa
I can provide some clarity on this situation. When someone claims Social Security early and then exceeds the earnings limit, the process works like this: 1. Before FRA: Benefits are reduced by $1 for every $2 earned above the annual limit (which is $21,240 in 2024). 2. Once FRA is reached: The earnings limit no longer applies, and SSA will recalculate the benefit amount. This recalculation gives credit for months when benefits were withheld due to excess earnings. 3. The recalculation process (called the Adjustment to the Reduction Factor or ARF) essentially treats you as if you had claimed later than you actually did, for each month benefits were withheld. In your wife's case, since she reached FRA in February 2024, SSA should automatically restart her benefits and apply the ARF. The new amount will be higher than her original $3,150, reflecting the "credit" for months when benefits were withheld. However, this process isn't always automatic in practice. I'd recommend contacting SSA directly to ensure they properly apply the ARF and restart her payments.
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GamerGirl99
•This is extremely helpful, thank you! So if I understand correctly, they should be treating her as if she had claimed at a later age than 63, which would result in a higher monthly amount? That makes sense. I'll definitely contact SSA to make sure this process is happening. I just wish the representative we spoke with had been able to explain this as clearly as you did.
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Malik Jenkins
i went thru something similar with my SS. had to wait forever when I called the 800 number and kept getting disconnected!!! so frustrating. finally found a service called Claimyr that got me connected to a live SS agent in like 20 minutes. saved me hours of waiting and hearing that stupid busy signal. their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU once i actually talked to someone, they explained the whole ARF thing to me. turns out they owed ME money for all the months they held back. but i had to actually ask for it, they didn't just automatically pay it!!
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GamerGirl99
•Thank you for the tip about Claimyr. I'll check it out. We've been trying to get through on the phone for weeks with no luck. I'm also concerned they might owe us money too, especially if the recalculation should have happened automatically in February.
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Freya Andersen
Wait I thought benefits are only reduced if you claim before your FRA? Once you hit FRA you can earn as much as you want without any reduction. But I'm confused about the recalculation part... does that mean you get back all the money they withheld?
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Isabella Costa
•You're correct that once you reach FRA, you can earn unlimited income without affecting your Social Security benefits. Regarding the recalculation: You don't get back all the money that was withheld. Instead, SSA increases your ongoing monthly benefit to account for the months when benefits were withheld. It's similar to how waiting longer to claim gives you a higher monthly amount. For example, if someone claimed at 62 but had benefits withheld for 12 months due to excess earnings, when they reach FRA, SSA would recalculate their benefit as if they had claimed at 63 instead of 62.
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Eduardo Silva
The SSA is COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT when it comes to these recalculations!!! I went through the EXACT same thing. Claimed early, went back to work, benefits stopped, reached FRA, and then NOTHING HAPPENED. They didn't automatically restart my payments like they're supposed to. I had to go to the office THREE TIMES before they fixed it. And then they didn't even apply the adjustment correctly. Make sure you keep ALL your records showing when payments stopped. They tried to tell me I only had 4 months of withheld benefits when it was actually 14 months! These people don't know what they're doing half the time!!!
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Leila Haddad
•Same thing happened to my cousin... they messed up his adjustment calculation and he had to fight with them for like 6 months to get it fixed. He said the calculations they did made no sense at all.
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Emma Johnson
Based on my experience helping clients with this exact scenario, here's what you need to know: 1) First, the ARF (Adjustment to Reduction Factor) recalculation doesn't happen automatically when you reach FRA. It typically occurs after SSA processes your tax information for the year you reached FRA. This can take several months. 2) For your wife specifically, since she had benefits withheld in 2022, 2023, and part of 2024, she'll get credit for all those months. If she claimed at 63 (48 months early) but had benefits withheld for, say, 24 months total, her new benefit would be calculated as if she claimed only 24 months early. 3) The increase can be substantial. For example, claiming 24 months early instead of 48 months early could increase her benefit by approximately 13-15%. 4) You should contact SSA directly to request a benefit verification letter that shows her updated amount after the ARF calculation. If they haven't done it yet, request that they process it. 5) Most importantly: She should qualify to have her benefits reinstated immediately now that she's past FRA, regardless of earnings. This is separate from the ARF recalculation. I recommend calling SSA at 1-800-772-1213 or visiting your local office with documentation of when her benefits were withheld.
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GamerGirl99
•Thank you for this detailed explanation! Now I understand why we haven't seen any automatic changes yet. I'll definitely follow your advice and contact them about both reinstating her current benefits and processing the ARF calculation. I appreciate the clear steps you've provided.
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Leila Haddad
my dad went through this last year. took SSA almost 6 months after his FRA to start paying him again and they messed up the back pay. make sure you stay on top of them!!
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GamerGirl99
•Six months seems like a really long time! Did they eventually pay him correctly for the months they missed after his FRA? I'm worried we'll be dealing with this for months.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
Just wondering - did she report her return to work to SSA when she started earning in 2022? I know someone who didn't report right away and ended up with a massive overpayment notice. Also, any idea how much you might owe back to SSA? With those high earnings and 2+ years of benefits, it could be substantial...
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GamerGirl99
•Yes, we reported her earnings on the annual report form they sent us. That's how they knew to stop the payments in 2024. We're expecting to owe quite a bit back - probably around $50K based on their letter. We've been setting money aside for this, thankfully.
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Emma Johnson
One more important thing I forgot to mention: If you're concerned about the overpayment, you should know that SSA will provide several options for repayment. They can: 1) Withhold from future benefits (but limited to no more than 10% of her monthly benefit unless you agree to more) 2) Set up a monthly payment plan 3) Take a partial lump sum payment and set up a plan for the remainder Given her high earnings, they might expect a more aggressive repayment schedule, but you still have rights regarding how much you can afford to pay back monthly. Also, the ARF recalculation I mentioned earlier is completely separate from the overpayment issue. They'll increase her ongoing benefit based on months withheld, regardless of whether the overpayment has been fully repaid.
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Freya Andersen
•Wait so they can take money out of her future SS checks to pay back what she owes??? That doesn't seem fair if she already reached FRA!
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Edward McBride
Yes, unfortunately SSA can withhold from future benefits to recover overpayments, even after you reach FRA. The overpayment debt doesn't disappear just because you hit full retirement age - it's considered money that was paid incorrectly based on the earnings limit rules that were in effect when benefits were received. However, there are protections in place. By law, they can only withhold up to 10% of your monthly benefit amount unless you voluntarily agree to a higher withholding rate. So if her recalculated benefit ends up being $3,500/month, they could only take a maximum of $350/month unless she agrees to more. The good news is that with a $50K debt and potential monthly withholding of a few hundred dollars, it would take several years to fully repay. During that time, she'd still be receiving the majority of her benefit each month. Plus, as @e062c331c939 mentioned, the ARF recalculation should increase her base benefit amount, which means more money coming in even after the withholding. It's definitely frustrating, but the system is designed to eventually make people whole while still recovering overpayments. Just make sure to negotiate a reasonable repayment plan that works with your budget!
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Keisha Jackson
•This is really helpful information, thank you! I'm just starting to understand how Social Security works and this whole situation seems so complicated. It's good to know there are protections in place for repayment. I'm curious though - does the 10% withholding limit apply to all types of Social Security overpayments, or just ones related to the earnings limit? And is there any way to appeal or waive the overpayment if someone can prove financial hardship?
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