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Lucas Schmidt

Social Security earnings limit confusion - annual vs monthly limits when retiring at 65 in 2026

I'm so confused about the earnings limit rules with Social Security! My wife plans to start her retirement benefits on January 1, 2026, when she'll be 65 (her FRA is 67). She wants to continue seasonal work earning around $6000-$7500 monthly for about 4 months each year until she reaches her full retirement age. When we spoke with SSA, the rep told us something that I want to verify: Since she's starting benefits on January 1st, the ANNUAL earnings limit would apply for 2026 (probably around $24,500-25,000 based on current trends). However, if she exceeds that annual limit, SSA would then switch to using the MONTHLY limit and she'd lose benefits for any month she earns over that monthly amount. Does this sound right? It seems like she needs to carefully track her total yearly earnings and stop working once she gets close to that annual limit to avoid losing benefits. I'm worried we misunderstood something important here. Has anyone dealt with this earnings limit situation?

Yes, that's basically correct. The SSA applies two different earnings tests depending on your situation: 1) The annual earnings test - applies to most people 2) The monthly earnings test - only applies in your first year of retirement Since your wife is starting benefits on January 1, 2026, the annual earnings test would apply for the full year. For 2025, the limit is $23,400 for someone under FRA for the whole year (and will likely increase for 2026). If she exceeds the annual limit, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 she earns above the limit. But they don't necessarily switch to the monthly test as you described - that's only if you retire mid-year. She should definitely track her earnings carefully and plan her work schedule to stay under the annual limit if possible.

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Thank you for clarifying! So if I understand correctly, since she's starting exactly on Jan 1, only the annual test applies? The rep definitely told us something about switching to a monthly test if she went over the annual limit, which confused me. Maybe they were thinking about a mid-year retirement scenario?

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The SSA rep gave you WRONG information!!! I went through this EXACT situation with my husband last year. When you start benefits on January 1st, ONLY the annual test applies - period. There is NO "switching" to a monthly test if you exceed the annual limit!!! The monthly earnings test ONLY applies in the calendar year when you first retire mid-year. Since your wife is starting on Jan 1, 2026, only the annual limit matters. Trust me, I learned this the hard way. Call back and speak to a different rep!!

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I've been dealing with Social Security for 15+ years, and I can confirm what you're saying is partially correct, but there's some nuance here. If someone starts benefits on January 1st, they are subject to the annual earnings test for that entire year. There's no switching between tests as the original rep suggested. However, it's still important to understand that the monthly test could apply in other circumstances - specifically, if someone retires mid-year. In that case, they can use the monthly test for the remainder of that first year regardless of annual earnings. For the original poster's wife starting January 1, 2026 - only the annual test will apply for all of 2026.

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my father in law had this same issue!! he went over by like $600 and they took away THREE MONTHS of benefits!! totally unfair system if u ask me. make sure she watches those earnings like a hawk

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There might be more to that story. If your father-in-law was in his first year of retirement and had started receiving benefits mid-year, then the monthly test could have applied. But if he started on January 1st and was subject to the annual test, they would have withheld approximately $300 in benefits (at the $1 for $2 rate), not three months' worth. The rules are complicated but they're consistently applied. It's just that most people (and sometimes even SSA reps) get confused about which test applies when.

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It sounds like there's some confusion here, both from the SSA rep and potentially in your understanding. For someone starting benefits on January 1, 2026: - Annual earnings test applies for all of 2026 - Monthly test does NOT come into play at any point that year - For 2026, she can earn up to the annual limit (probably around $24,500-25,000) - If she goes over, they withhold $1 for every $2 over the limit I suspect what the rep might have been trying to explain is that they don't just reduce your annual benefit by a percentage - they actually withhold entire monthly payments until they've covered the amount that needs to be withheld. This often confuses people.

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This makes so much sense! Yes, I think that's exactly what the rep was trying to explain - not that they'd switch tests, but that they'd withhold entire monthly payments. That explains the confusion. So if she earns, say, $26,000 in 2026 when the limit is $25,000, they'd withhold $500 in benefits ($1 for every $2 over), which might mean losing part or all of one monthly payment?

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Thanks for the tip! I might try that. We definitely need to speak with someone again to get this clarified before she makes any decisions about work next year.

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To summarize the correct information for everyone's benefit: 1) For someone starting benefits on January 1st: ONLY the annual earnings test applies for that entire year. 2) For 2025, the earnings limit for someone under FRA the whole year is $23,400 (will likely increase for 2026). 3) If earnings exceed the annual limit, SSA withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 earned over the limit. 4) SSA typically withholds full monthly payments, not partial ones, until they've withheld the required amount. 5) The monthly earnings test only applies in the calendar year a person retires mid-year. The OP's wife should carefully track her earnings throughout 2026 and stop working once she approaches the annual limit to avoid benefit reductions.

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wait so if she earns $2000 over the limit theyd take away $1000 in benefits?? and they take whole months not just part? that seems so unfair!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet that might be relevant to your wife's situation: the earnings limit increases substantially in the year you reach full retirement age, and only earnings before the month you reach FRA count. For example, in 2025: - If you're under FRA the whole year: $23,400 annual limit - In the year you reach FRA: $62,760 annual limit, but only counting earnings before the month you reach FRA - Month you reach FRA and beyond: No earnings limit at all So depending on when your wife reaches FRA, this could significantly impact her planning. If she turns 67 (her FRA) in 2028, she'll have a much higher limit that year and only earnings from January through the month before her birthday would count.

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This is extremely helpful! You're right - she'll reach FRA (67) in 2028, so she'll have the regular limit for 2026 and 2027, but then a much higher limit in 2028, and only for the months before her birthday. This definitely impacts our planning - thank you!

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Also remember that any benefits withheld due to the earnings test aren't lost forever! When your wife reaches FRA, her benefit amount will be recalculated to give credit for months when benefits were withheld. Most people don't realize this part!

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This is absolutely correct and often overlooked. The earnings test is more of a deferral than a permanent reduction. Once you reach FRA, SSA recalculates your benefit to account for months when benefits were withheld. However, this doesn't necessarily mean you'll get back exactly what was withheld. The adjustment comes in the form of a slightly higher monthly benefit for the rest of your life, essentially removing the early claiming reduction for those months where benefits were withheld.

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Just want to add one more important point that could affect your wife's situation: make sure she understands what counts as "earnings" for the earnings test. Only wages from employment and net self-employment income count - things like pensions, 401k withdrawals, investment income, rental income, etc. don't count toward the limit. Since you mentioned she does seasonal work, if she's an employee (gets a W-2), all those wages count. But if she's self-employed or an independent contractor, only her net earnings after business expenses would count toward the limit. This distinction could make a big difference in her planning, especially if she has any business expenses related to her seasonal work. Also, the earnings are counted when earned, not when paid. So if she earns money in December 2026 but doesn't get paid until January 2027, it still counts toward her 2026 earnings limit.

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This is such a helpful thread! As someone who's been navigating Social Security benefits for my own family, I wanted to add one more consideration that might be useful for your wife's planning. Since she's doing seasonal work for about 4 months per year earning $6,000-$7,500 monthly, that puts her right at the edge of the annual earnings limit (assuming it stays around $24,500-$25,000 for 2026). One strategy that has worked for others in similar situations is to carefully time when the work is performed each year. For example, if she could shift some of her seasonal work to early in the year when she reaches FRA (2028), she could potentially earn more in those months since only earnings before her FRA birthday month would count against the much higher limit ($62,760 in 2025, likely higher by 2028). Also, I'd definitely recommend getting that earnings limit clarification in writing from SSA - either through their online portal or by requesting a written explanation. Given the confusion you experienced with the first rep, having it documented could save headaches later if there are any disputes about benefit calculations. The fact that withheld benefits aren't permanently lost (as others mentioned) does provide some peace of mind, but careful planning upfront is still the best approach to avoid cash flow issues from temporary benefit suspensions.

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This is really great strategic thinking! The timing aspect is something we hadn't fully considered. Since she'll be doing seasonal work anyway, shifting some of that work to early 2028 (before her FRA birthday) could definitely help maximize her earnings potential under the higher limit that year. I'm also taking your advice about getting the earnings limit rules in writing. Given all the confusion from that first call, having documentation seems really important. Do you know if there's a specific form or publication that spells out these rules clearly? I want to make sure we have the right information before she commits to any work schedule. Thanks for the practical advice - this thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding what seemed like a really confusing situation!

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For the specific SSA publication, you'll want to look at Publication No. 05-10069 "How Work Affects Your Benefits" - this is the official guide that covers all the earnings limit rules. You can find it on the SSA website at ssa.gov/pubs/ or request a physical copy. Also, when you call back to get clarification, ask them to reference the specific sections in the Program Operations Manual System (POMS) that apply to your wife's situation. The relevant sections are RS 02501.001 for annual earnings test and RS 02501.020 for monthly earnings test. Having these reference numbers will help ensure you're getting consistent information from different reps. One more tip: if you create a my Social Security account online, you can send secure messages to SSA with your questions and get written responses back. This creates a paper trail and often results in more thoughtful, accurate answers since the reps have time to research before responding.

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This is incredibly helpful information! Thank you for providing the specific publication number and POMS references. I'm definitely going to look up Publication No. 05-10069 and create that my Social Security account to get written responses. Having those POMS section numbers (RS 02501.001 and RS 02501.020) should really help when we call back - it sounds like that will ensure we're all talking about the same rules and hopefully avoid the confusion we had with the first rep. I really appreciate how this community has helped clarify what seemed like such a complicated situation. Between the strategic timing advice and now these specific resources, I feel much more confident about helping my wife plan her work schedule for the next few years. Thanks everyone!

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I just want to echo what others have said about getting this information in writing! I had a similar experience with conflicting information from different SSA reps about earnings limits. One thing that really helped me was calling the SSA's technical expert line (you have to ask to be transferred to a "technical expert" when you call the main number). These are more experienced reps who specialize in complex benefit calculations. They were able to walk me through the exact same scenario and confirmed that for someone starting benefits on January 1st, only the annual earnings test applies for that entire year - no switching between tests. Also, just to reinforce what others mentioned about the benefit recalculation at FRA - while it's true that withheld benefits aren't permanently lost, the timing of when you get that value back matters for cash flow planning. The recalculation happens automatically when you reach FRA, but it comes as a slightly higher monthly payment for life rather than a lump sum of what was withheld. So it's still worth planning carefully to avoid benefit suspensions if possible, especially if you're counting on that monthly income. Your wife's seasonal work schedule actually puts her in a good position to control her annual earnings - just make sure she tracks them carefully throughout the year!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, practical advice I was hoping to find! Thank you for mentioning the technical expert line - I had no idea that was an option. That sounds like it could save us a lot of frustration compared to potentially getting different answers from different regular reps. Your point about the cash flow implications is really important too. Even though the withheld benefits aren't permanently lost, having monthly payments suspended could definitely create financial stress, especially if we're not prepared for it. With her seasonal work pattern, she should be able to plan her earnings to stay under the limit, but having that technical expert confirmation about the rules will give us much more confidence in our planning. I'm going to try calling that technical expert line this week. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's navigated this successfully!

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I wanted to add something that might be helpful for your wife's specific situation with seasonal work - since she's earning $6,000-$7,500 monthly for about 4 months, that puts her total annual earnings right around $24,000-$30,000, which could be close to or over the annual limit. One strategy I've seen work well for people in similar seasonal situations is to negotiate with the employer (if possible) to spread some of the earnings into the following year. For example, if she usually works March-June, she might consider working February-May instead, or asking if some December payments could be delayed until January of the following year. Since earnings are counted when earned (not when paid), the timing of when the work is actually performed matters. This could help her stay under the annual limit in years when she's subject to the earnings test (2026-2027), and then she could potentially earn more in early 2028 before reaching her FRA. Also, make sure she keeps detailed records of her work dates and earnings - if there's ever a question about which year certain earnings should count toward, having documentation will be invaluable. The technical expert line that Natasha mentioned is definitely your best bet for getting accurate information. Regular SSA reps often get confused about the nuances between annual and monthly earnings tests.

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This is such great strategic thinking about timing the seasonal work! I hadn't considered that the actual work dates matter more than payment dates for the earnings test. That could definitely give my wife more flexibility in managing her annual earnings, especially in those years before she reaches FRA. The idea of potentially shifting her work schedule by a month or two, or even negotiating payment timing with her employer, could make a real difference in staying under the limit. Since her seasonal work typically brings in right around that $24,000-$30,000 range, having that kind of control over when earnings are counted could be the difference between staying under the limit or having benefits withheld. I'm definitely going to discuss these timing strategies with her, and we'll make sure to keep detailed records of work dates and earnings as you suggested. Combined with calling that technical expert line for clarification on the rules, I think we'll be in much better shape to plan this out properly. Thanks for the practical advice - it's exactly what we needed to hear!

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I've been following this thread with great interest since I'm in a very similar situation - planning to start Social Security at 65 while continuing some part-time work. The confusion about annual vs monthly earnings tests that you experienced with the SSA rep is unfortunately pretty common. Based on everything discussed here, it seems clear that since your wife is starting benefits on January 1, 2026, only the annual earnings test will apply for that entire year. The monthly test is specifically for people who retire mid-year in their first year of benefits. One additional consideration for your wife's seasonal work situation: since she's earning in that $6,000-$7,500 monthly range for 4 months, she might want to consider whether any of that work could potentially qualify as self-employment rather than regular employment. If she has any business expenses related to her seasonal work (transportation, supplies, etc.), those could be deducted from her earnings for Social Security purposes if she's classified as an independent contractor rather than an employee. This could potentially help her stay under the annual earnings limit. Just make sure to consult with a tax professional about the implications, since there are trade-offs between employee vs contractor status. The advice about getting everything in writing and using the technical expert line is spot-on. Good luck navigating this - it sounds like you're asking all the right questions!

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That's a really interesting point about the potential difference between employee vs independent contractor status! I hadn't thought about how business expenses might factor into the earnings calculation for Social Security purposes. My wife's seasonal work is currently structured as regular employment (she gets a W-2), but you're right that if there are legitimate business expenses involved, exploring independent contractor status might be worth considering. Things like travel costs to work sites, specialized equipment, or supplies could potentially be deductible. Of course, as you mentioned, there are definitely trade-offs to consider - like losing employer benefits, having to pay both sides of Social Security taxes, etc. But given that we're trying to optimize around the earnings limit, it might be worth having a conversation with both a tax professional and her employer about the options. Thanks for bringing up that angle - it's another potential tool in the toolkit for managing her earnings relative to the annual limit. Combined with all the timing strategies people have mentioned, it seems like there are several ways to approach this strategically rather than just hoping we stay under the limit by chance. This community has been incredibly helpful in thinking through all these nuances!

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I've been reading through this entire discussion and it's been incredibly enlightening! As someone who's also approaching Social Security decisions, I wanted to thank everyone for the detailed explanations and practical advice. What strikes me most is how much misinformation there seems to be, even from SSA reps themselves. The fact that the original poster got told about "switching" between annual and monthly tests when starting benefits on January 1st is concerning - that's just not how the system works. For anyone else following this thread, I think the key takeaways are: 1. Starting benefits January 1st = annual earnings test only for that entire year 2. Monthly test only applies when retiring mid-year in your first year of benefits 3. Get everything in writing and ask for technical experts when calling SSA 4. The timing of when work is performed (not paid) matters for earnings calculations 5. Track everything carefully and consider strategic timing of seasonal work The advice about Publication No. 05-10069 and those POMS reference numbers is gold - having those specific citations should help avoid the confusion that seems to plague regular SSA customer service calls. Lucas, I hope you and your wife are able to get this sorted out with confidence now. With all the strategies discussed here for timing her seasonal work and staying under the annual limit, it sounds like she should be able to make this work well!

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You've done an excellent job summarizing all the key points from this discussion! As someone new to this community, I'm really impressed by how thorough and helpful everyone has been in breaking down these complex Social Security rules. The misinformation issue you mentioned is particularly concerning - it really highlights why getting multiple sources and asking for written documentation is so important. I can only imagine how stressful it must be to get conflicting information about something as critical as retirement benefits. Your numbered takeaways are perfect - they should honestly be pinned somewhere for others who might have similar questions about earnings limits and timing. The distinction between when you START benefits (Jan 1 vs mid-year) determining which test applies seems to be a major source of confusion. This thread has definitely made me realize I need to do more homework before I start my own Social Security benefits. The strategic timing aspects around seasonal work, the technical expert line, and those specific publication references are all things I never would have known to ask about. Thanks to everyone who contributed their experiences and expertise here - this is exactly the kind of community knowledge sharing that makes these decisions less overwhelming!

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@Alberto Souchard Are they only using Annual limits in 2026? If start benefits on Jan. 1, but work the month of January only, my earnings would be fine with an annual limit, but if they applied a monthly limit, it would affect them.

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As someone who's been helping family members navigate Social Security for years, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help with your wife's situation: First, consider setting up a simple spreadsheet to track her monthly earnings throughout 2026. Since she's doing seasonal work earning $6,000-$7,500 monthly for about 4 months, having a running total will help you both stay aware of where she stands relative to the annual limit. Second, if her seasonal work allows any flexibility in scheduling, you might want to plan conservatively for her first year (2026) to avoid any benefit withholding while you're both getting comfortable with the system. Then in 2027, once you've seen exactly how SSA handles her earnings reporting and benefit calculations, you could potentially be more aggressive about maximizing her earnings up to the limit. Finally, when you do call that technical expert line others mentioned, I'd suggest asking them to walk through a specific example with your wife's anticipated earnings amounts. Something like "If she earns exactly $25,000 in 2026 when the limit is $24,500, what exactly happens to her benefits and when?" Getting concrete scenarios explained can be much clearer than general rule explanations. The community advice here has been excellent - you're definitely on the right track now!

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This is really practical advice, especially the spreadsheet idea! As someone new to navigating Social Security, I appreciate the suggestion to be conservative in the first year while getting comfortable with how the system actually works in practice. Your point about asking for specific examples with actual dollar amounts is brilliant - that's exactly the kind of concrete scenario that would help avoid the confusion the original poster experienced with that first SSA rep. Instead of trying to understand abstract rules, having them walk through "if X happens, then Y occurs" with real numbers would be so much clearer. The idea of potentially being more aggressive in 2027 once they've seen how SSA handles everything also makes a lot of sense. There's definitely value in taking a cautious approach initially rather than trying to maximize earnings right up to the limit when you're still learning the system. @Emma Davis, do you have any other tips for that first year of benefits? It seems like there are so many nuances that aren't immediately obvious!

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This entire thread has been incredibly educational! As someone who's just starting to research Social Security strategies, I had no idea about the complexity around earnings limits and how the timing of when you start benefits affects which test applies. The confusion with the SSA rep that Lucas experienced really highlights why this community is so valuable - getting multiple perspectives and having people share their actual experiences helps cut through the misinformation. It's concerning that even SSA representatives sometimes give incorrect information about something so fundamental. I'm taking notes on all the resources mentioned here - Publication No. 05-10069, the POMS references, the technical expert line, and especially the advice about getting everything in writing. The strategic timing considerations for seasonal work are fascinating too - I never would have thought about how shifting work dates by even a month could impact earnings test calculations. For anyone else reading this thread later, it seems like the key lesson is: if you're starting Social Security benefits on January 1st of any year, only the annual earnings test applies for that entire year. There's no "switching" to monthly limits as the original SSA rep suggested. The monthly test is specifically for people who retire mid-year in their first year of benefits. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences - this is exactly the kind of community support that makes navigating these complex decisions less overwhelming!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by how comprehensive and helpful this discussion has been! Reading through everyone's experiences and advice has really opened my eyes to how complex Social Security rules can be, especially around earnings limits. What really stands out to me is how the original confusion could have led to some serious planning mistakes. If Lucas and his wife had followed that incorrect advice about "switching" between annual and monthly tests, they might have made work decisions based on completely wrong assumptions about how their benefits would be affected. The practical tips shared here - like the spreadsheet tracking, asking for specific dollar amount examples, and being conservative in the first year - are exactly the kind of real-world wisdom you can't get from just reading official publications. And knowing about that technical expert line could save so much frustration compared to getting different answers from different regular reps. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread for reference when I start navigating my own Social Security decisions. The step-by-step resources (Publication 05-10069, POMS references, my Social Security account for written responses) create a clear roadmap for getting accurate information and avoiding the confusion that seems all too common with this system. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge - this community is an incredible resource!

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Reading through this entire discussion has been incredibly helpful! As someone who will be facing a similar decision in the next few years, I really appreciate how the community came together to clarify what was clearly a confusing situation with conflicting information from SSA. The key point that keeps coming up - and seems to be the source of the original confusion - is that starting benefits on January 1st means ONLY the annual earnings test applies for that entire year. No switching between tests, no monthly limits coming into play. It's that simple, but apparently not well understood even by some SSA reps. What I find most valuable are the practical strategies discussed here: tracking earnings with a spreadsheet, timing seasonal work strategically, getting specific dollar examples from technical experts, and having everything documented in writing. These are the kinds of real-world tips that make the difference between successfully navigating the system and getting caught off guard by unexpected benefit reductions. For Lucas and his wife's situation specifically, it sounds like her seasonal work pattern ($6K-7.5K monthly for 4 months) puts her right at the edge of the annual limit, so careful planning and tracking will be essential. But with all the strategies outlined in this thread, she should be able to manage her earnings effectively while maximizing her work opportunities. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise - this is exactly why community forums like this are so valuable for navigating complex government programs!

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As someone completely new to Social Security planning, this entire thread has been an absolute goldmine of information! I'm honestly a bit overwhelmed by how complex these earnings limit rules are, but also really grateful that so many experienced community members took the time to break everything down so clearly. What strikes me most is how that initial misinformation from the SSA rep could have completely derailed Lucas and his wife's retirement planning. The idea that there would be some kind of "switching" between annual and monthly tests when starting benefits on January 1st is just completely wrong, but it sounds like it was presented as fact. That's genuinely scary when you're making major financial decisions! I'm definitely taking notes on all the resources mentioned - especially that technical expert line and getting everything in writing. The strategic timing advice around seasonal work is fascinating too. I had no idea that when work is actually performed (versus when you're paid) could make such a difference in managing these earnings limits. For those of us who are still years away from these decisions, threads like this are invaluable for understanding what we need to research and prepare for. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences!

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This has been such an informative discussion! As someone who's been researching Social Security strategies for my own upcoming retirement, I wanted to add one more resource that might be helpful for getting accurate information. In addition to the technical expert line that several people mentioned, SSA also has local field offices where you can schedule in-person appointments. Sometimes having a face-to-face conversation with a knowledgeable representative can help clear up complex scenarios like this one. You can use the SSA office locator on their website to find the nearest location. The advantage of an in-person meeting is that you can bring all your documentation, ask follow-up questions immediately, and get written notes or printouts to take home. Plus, the field office staff often have more experience with complex earnings limit scenarios than the general phone representatives. Given all the confusion your wife experienced with that initial phone call, it might be worth scheduling an appointment to go over her specific situation in detail. You could bring a list of questions based on all the great advice in this thread, and make sure you leave with clear, documented answers about how the annual earnings test will apply to her 2026 benefits. The seasonal work timing strategies discussed here are excellent - having an SSA representative confirm those details in person could give you both extra confidence in your planning!

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That's an excellent suggestion about scheduling an in-person appointment! As someone who's just learning about all these Social Security complexities from this thread, I can definitely see the value in having face-to-face time with an experienced representative. The point about being able to bring documentation and get written notes to take home is really important - especially given the confusion Lucas experienced with that initial phone call. Having everything documented from an in-person meeting would provide a lot more confidence than trying to remember details from a phone conversation. I'm curious though - do the field office representatives generally have better training on these earnings limit scenarios than the phone reps? It sounds like there's quite a bit of misinformation floating around even within SSA, so I'd want to make sure an in-person appointment would actually result in more accurate information. Either way, combining an in-person visit with all the other resources mentioned in this thread (the technical expert line, specific publications, written documentation) seems like it would give Lucas and his wife the best chance of getting clear, consistent answers about her seasonal work situation. This community has done such an amazing job helping clarify what started as a really confusing situation!

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As someone who's been helping seniors with Social Security issues for several years through volunteer work, I wanted to jump in and confirm what many others have said here - the SSA rep definitely gave you incorrect information about "switching" between tests. When your wife starts benefits on January 1, 2026, she'll be subject to ONLY the annual earnings test for the entire year. There's absolutely no switching to monthly limits if she exceeds the annual threshold. The monthly earnings test is exclusively for people who retire mid-year during their first year of benefits. What likely happened is the rep confused how SSA actually withholds the excess benefits (they typically withhold entire monthly payments rather than partial payments) with switching between different earnings tests. It's an unfortunately common mix-up that I've seen confuse many people. Given her seasonal work earning $6,000-$7,500 monthly for 4 months, she'll definitely want to track her total carefully against that annual limit (likely around $25,000 for 2026). The timing strategies others mentioned about when work is actually performed versus when payment is received could be really valuable for her situation. I'd strongly recommend calling back and specifically asking for a technical expert to avoid getting conflicting information again. Good luck with your planning!

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Thank you for sharing your volunteer experience helping seniors with Social Security - that perspective is really valuable! Your explanation about why the rep might have gotten confused (mixing up how benefits are withheld with switching between tests) makes a lot of sense. That kind of mix-up could easily lead to the wrong information being shared. As someone new to understanding these Social Security rules, I really appreciate how you and others in this community have taken the time to clarify what could have been a costly planning mistake. The distinction between the annual and monthly earnings tests seems so fundamental, yet it's clearly not well understood even by some SSA representatives. Your confirmation about the timing strategies - that when work is performed matters more than when payment is received - is particularly helpful. For someone doing seasonal work like Lucas's wife, having that flexibility to potentially time work strategically could make a real difference in staying under the annual earnings limit. The advice about asking specifically for a technical expert when calling back seems to be a common theme in this thread, and coming from someone with your volunteer experience, that recommendation carries extra weight. Thanks for contributing your expertise to help clarify this situation!

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This thread has been incredibly enlightening! As someone who's just starting to research Social Security benefits for my own future planning, I had no idea how complex these earnings limit rules could be or how much misinformation seems to circulate - even from official sources. The key takeaway that keeps resonating is crystal clear now: if you start Social Security benefits on January 1st of any year, ONLY the annual earnings test applies for that entire year. There's no mysterious "switching" to monthly limits as that first SSA rep incorrectly suggested. The monthly test is exclusively for mid-year retirees in their first year of benefits. What I find most valuable are all the practical strategies shared here - from tracking earnings with spreadsheets to timing seasonal work strategically, asking for technical experts instead of regular phone reps, and getting everything documented in writing. These real-world tips could make the difference between smooth benefit management and unexpected complications. For newcomers like me who are years away from these decisions, this discussion serves as a perfect example of why doing thorough research and getting multiple sources of information is so critical. One incorrect phone call could have led to major planning mistakes! Thanks to everyone who shared their expertise and experiences - this community knowledge is invaluable for navigating these complex government programs.

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