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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful responses! I've made a list of questions based on your suggestions. One more thing - has anyone dealt with the lump sum retroactive payment? If I take the 6 months retroactive benefits, does that permanently reduce my monthly amount as if I had filed 6 months earlier? Or do I still get my full FRA amount going forward?

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Yes, this is important to understand! If you take the 6 months of retroactive benefits, your monthly benefit amount WILL be permanently calculated as if you filed 6 months before your FRA. This means your monthly payment would be approximately 3.3% lower than your full FRA benefit amount for the rest of your life. Whether this makes financial sense depends on your life expectancy and immediate need for funds. If you need a lump sum now, it might be worth it. If you're in good health and expect to live a long time, it might be better to forego the retroactive benefits and take the higher monthly amount.

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when i had my call they rushed me through everything and i forgot half my questions! write everything down ahead of time and dont let them rush you. if you have a spouse definitely mention that because they might not ask. good luck!!

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Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely write everything down and make sure to mention my wife's situation.

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Anyone else notice how IMPOSSIBLE it is to get accurate info from SSA??? Every time I call I get different answers! One person says they'll take 10%, another says they'll take it all at once, another says I need to fill out forms... it's exhausting! I've had my SSDI on hold twice and both times it caused me so much stress I ended up in the ER!

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omg YES!!! i talked to 3 different ppl and got 3 different answers about my sons disability payment!!!

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To follow up on what others have said, you should submit Form SSA-634 (Request for Change in Overpayment Recovery Rate) if the standard 10% would cause you financial hardship. You'll need to provide your monthly income and expenses to justify a lower rate. When you talk to SSA, be sure to ask them to explain why your account shows "on hold" - sometimes this is just an automated status during processing, but other times it could indicate they need additional information from you before releasing your payment. Also, since your overpayment was from work income, ask if you qualify for an "unsuccessful work attempt" provision, which might actually reduce or eliminate the overpayment amount entirely if your work lasted less than 6 months and ended due to your disability.

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Thank you! My work definitely lasted less than 6 months (only about 6 weeks) and I had to stop because my condition got worse. I'll definitely bring this up when I talk to them. I've got both forms printed now and I'm going to fill them out tonight just to be ready.

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My situation was similar but I had a completely different outcome. My husband died, I got survivors benefits, kept working, had some reductions. I'm thinking the rules must have changed recently? Because when I switched to my own benefit two years ago, they did some kind of adjustment. Maybe talk to a different SSA person?

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What likely happened in your case is that you were receiving reduced retirement benefits along with survivor benefits (this happens in some situations), rather than survivor benefits alone. When retirement benefits are reduced due to the earnings test, there is indeed a recalculation at FRA to account for those months. Survivor benefits don't get this same treatment when you switch to retirement. It's a common area of confusion even among some SSA representatives.

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Thank you everyone for the helpful information! I'm going to schedule my appointment to file for retirement benefits soon, and I'll make sure to check my earnings record carefully beforehand. It's disappointing about not getting those deductions back, but at least now I understand how it works and won't be surprised. I appreciate all your insights!

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The SSA can be TERRIBLE about this stuff! My mom has dementia but not "bad enough" according to them initially. We had to get multiple doctor letters and it took MONTHS before they approved a payee. Meanwhile she lost almost $5000 to scammers!! Ask for a supervisor if they give you any runaround.

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This is unfortunately common. Make sure the doctor's letter specifically addresses her ability to manage finances (not just general cognitive status). Use phrases like "unable to understand the consequences of financial decisions" or "cannot manage benefit payments due to cognitive impairment." This specific language helps expedite the process.

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I've made notes on everything and will be contacting her doctor tomorrow for that documentation. I'll try to schedule an appointment with SSA using the Claimyr service since it sounds like getting through is the first big hurdle. I'm relieved to hear this is possible without full guardianship. I think my aunt will agree once I explain everything carefully - she was actually in tears last week after realizing she'd been scammed, so I think she knows she needs help even if it's hard to admit. I'll update once we get through the process in case it helps others in the same situation.

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Good plan! One more thing - when you meet with SSA, bring recent examples of financial issues (bank statements showing overdrafts, bills that went unpaid, receipts from scams if you have them). This concrete evidence of financial mismanagement can be very persuasive in borderline cases. Wishing you and your aunt all the best.

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Does anybody know if this impacts the earnings test? I'm 63 getting SS but still teaching part-time and they take back some of my benefits whenever I make over the limit. SOOOO FRUSTRATING!!!!

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That's a different issue than what the original poster was asking about. The earnings test is separate from WEP/GPO. If you're under Full Retirement Age (66-67 depending on birth year) and still working, SSA reduces benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above the annual limit ($22,320 in 2025 for those under FRA). Once you reach FRA, there's no more earnings test.

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Update: I finally spoke with someone at Social Security. They confirmed there haven't been any changes to the GPO rules that would affect my situation. The agent explained that any legislation would need to specifically address retroactive changes to current beneficiaries like me. She suggested I check the SSA website every few months for updates or sign up for their email newsletter. Thanks everyone for your helpful responses!

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Thanks for updating us! Did they say anything about if there might be changes coming soon?

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The agent wasn't allowed to speculate about potential future legislation, but said there are always proposals being discussed in Congress. She just couldn't promise if or when anything might change.

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