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I went through this exact situation last year and learned that planning ahead is crucial. What I do now is carefully track my earnings throughout the year and adjust my work schedule in the last quarter if I'm getting close to the limit. It's annoying, but it prevents surprises. I also discovered that certain types of income don't count toward the earnings test - like investment income, pension payments, annuities, and capital gains. Only wages and self-employment income count. This helped me reorganize some of my income sources to avoid going over the limit.

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That's really smart planning ahead like that. I'm definitely going to track my earnings more carefully this year. I didn't realize some income doesn't count toward the limit - that's very helpful information! Thank you!

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does anyone know if they give back this money they take? or is it just gone forever?

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Yes, you do eventually get the money back! When you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), Social Security recalculates your benefit amount. The months that were withheld due to the earnings test are essentially credited back to you in the form of a higher monthly benefit for the rest of your life. So the money isn't permanently lost - the penalty is more like a deferral of benefits until you reach FRA.

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Anybody know if this delay will push back our COLA adjustment for 2025? My sister-in-law told me everything gets delayed when they're behind on paperwork.

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The SSA-1099 delay has no effect on COLA adjustments. The 2025 COLA will be announced in October 2024 based on inflation data, and payments with the new amounts would begin January 2025, completely separate from tax form processing.

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UPDATE: My 1099 finally appeared online this morning! Looks like they are indeed rolling them out gradually. For those still waiting, keep checking your online account daily.

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just checked and mine is there too! finally!!!

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The advice here seems focused on maximizing your monthly payment, but don't forget to think about your total lifetime benefits too! If you wait 4+ years to claim (assuming your FRA is around 66-67), you're giving up 48+ monthly payments. You'd need to live well into your 80s before the higher monthly amount makes up for all those missed payments. No one can predict how long we'll live, but if you have health concerns or family history of shorter lifespan, claiming earlier often results in more total benefits received over your lifetime.

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This is a valid point about the break-even analysis. Mathematically, the break-even point for early filing vs. FRA is typically around age 78-82 depending on specific circumstances. However, it's also important to consider spousal survivor benefits. If her husband has the higher benefit and predeceases her, she'll step up to his benefit amount. In that scenario, maximizing his benefit through delayed claiming could be more important than maximizing her spousal benefit.

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After reviewing all the advice here, let me summarize the key points for your decision: 1) Your husband's transition from SSDI to retirement benefits won't affect your spousal benefit amount. 2) Filing at 62 gives you about 32.5% of his PIA permanently, while waiting until your FRA gives you 50%. 3) Each month you delay between 62 and FRA increases your benefit percentage slightly. 4) Consider both monthly amount AND lifetime total benefits in your decision. 5) Your financial needs now vs. later should guide your choice - there's no universally "right" answer. I suggest calling SSA to get exact benefit estimates for different filing ages to make an informed decision.

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! I'll definitely call SSA to get the exact numbers for different scenarios. I think I might split the difference and wait a year or two, but not necessarily until my full retirement age. Really appreciate everyone's help!

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ur hubby and mine should talk my husband had that exact surgery they said paralysis might happen but he was up walking 2 days later back to work in 3 months doctors always say the worst case scenario but most ppl do fine

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This is off-topic from the Social Security question being discussed. Let's help the OP with her earnings limit question rather than medical anecdotes.

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To summarize the correct information: 1. Since 2025 is your FRA year, the higher earnings limit ($62,160) applies for the ENTIRE year. 2. For January and February (before you reach FRA), Social Security will deduct $1 for every $3 you earn above that limit. 3. Starting in March when you reach FRA, there is NO earnings limit at all - you can earn any amount without reduction. 4. If you start benefits in January, you'll receive slightly reduced benefits (approximately 1.1% reduction for each month before FRA). Given your husband's health situation, starting in January makes perfect sense. You'll have the security of income if you need to reduce work hours, but still have substantial room to earn under that higher limit if his recovery goes well and you can continue working.

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Thank you for this clear summary. This is exactly what I needed to understand. The permanent reduction for claiming early is small enough that the security of having benefits during this uncertain time seems worth it. I appreciate everyone's help!

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Did you know they might owe you retroactive benefits too? When my sister filed for survivors after her husband passed, they gave her six months of back payments from before she applied! Might be worth asking about.

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Good point, but important clarification: retroactive benefits for survivors are limited to 6 months maximum, and only if you're past full retirement age when you apply. Since the original poster is 64 and not yet at FRA, retroactive benefits wouldn't apply in this specific case. But definitely something to keep in mind for others reading this thread!

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! I've decided to schedule an appointment with SSA to discuss my options. I'll gather my documentation (marriage certificate, her death certificate, our birth certificates) before going in. Since I'm earning well above the earnings limit right now, I'll probably wait until closer to my full retirement age before applying, but it's such a relief to know this option exists! I had no idea I could still claim these benefits after all these years.

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