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Can I claim Social Security survivor benefits from ex-husband who died at 61 after 9-year marriage?

I just found out my ex-husband passed away 4 months ago at age 61. I'm currently 53 and trying to figure out if I qualify for any of his Social Security benefits. We were married for 9 years before divorcing in 2012. He never remarried after our divorce. I'm also currently single. I know his first wife died about 8 years ago, and he has four adult children from that marriage. I've tried looking at the SSA website but got confused about the rules for ex-spouses and survivor benefits when you're under retirement age. Does the 10-year marriage rule still apply if the ex-spouse has died? Do I need to wait until I'm 60 to claim anything? Any help would be really appreciated as I'm trying to plan for the future.

Thank you everyone for the responses. This is disappointing but at least now I know where I stand. I'm going to call SSA directly to confirm everything, and then focus on maximizing my own retirement benefits. I appreciate all the information and support.

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That's a good approach. Since you're 53 now, you have time to boost your own retirement security. Consider increasing your contributions to workplace retirement plans or IRAs if possible. Also, when you eventually claim your own Social Security retirement benefits, remember that waiting until your Full Retirement Age (67 for your birth year) or even up to age 70 can significantly increase your monthly benefit amount.

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I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Unfortunately, the 10-year marriage requirement is strictly enforced by SSA with very few exceptions. However, I'd recommend double-checking a few things when you call SSA: 1) Make sure they have the correct marriage and divorce dates on file - sometimes there are discrepancies that could work in your favor, 2) Ask specifically about any credits you might have earned during your marriage that could boost your own future benefits, and 3) Inquire about whether you might qualify for any disability benefits if you have health issues. Also, don't forget that you may still be eligible for benefits on your own work record, and at 53 you have time to increase those future benefits through continued employment. Good luck with your call to SSA!

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Can I take my SS retirement at 65 then switch to higher survivor benefits at my FRA of 66 10 months?

I'm trying to figure out my best strategy with Social Security. I'm 65 now and thinking about starting my own retirement benefit. When I reach my full retirement age (66 years and 10 months), my survivor benefit from my late husband will be significantly higher than my own benefit. I was wondering if I can: 1) Start collecting my own benefit now at 65, 2) Then switch to the survivor benefit when I reach my FRA in about 22 months. Is this considered a "restricted application"? Can I do this process online through my SS account or will I need to call/visit an office? I've tried calling but haven't been able to get through. I'm worried about making a mistake that could cost me thousands in benefits. Any advice from folks who've navigated this particular situation would be really helpful!

Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I feel much more confident about my plan now. I'm going to try to reach SSA to start my retirement benefit now, and then make sure to contact them 3 months before my FRA to initiate the switch to survivor benefits. I'll also be sure to document everything carefully along the way. I appreciate all your suggestions and experiences - it's made this whole process much less intimidating!

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One more tip that might help - when you call SSA, try calling right when they open (usually 8 AM local time) or later in the afternoon around 4-5 PM. Those tend to be less busy times. Also, if you get disconnected, don't give up! The system is frustrating but your strategy is solid and will save you money in the long run. I've seen too many people give up on legitimate benefit increases because the process was difficult. You've got this!

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Need detailed Social Security benefit calculation formulas beyond SSA website - any resources?

I'm trying to create my own spreadsheets to understand exactly how my Social Security benefits will be calculated under different scenarios, but I'm finding the SSA website too simplified. Does anyone know of resources (books, websites, etc.) that provide the actual formulas and criteria the SSA uses? I want to run different scenarios with: - Varying income years (including zero-income years) - Different retirement ages - Spousal benefit calculations - Benefits for my special needs child I'm comfortable creating the spreadsheets myself, but I need to understand all the inputs and exact formulas. Why are these calculations so hard to find? It feels like the SSA deliberately keeps their formularies and criteria hidden. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you all for the incredible resources! I've ordered the Mike Piper book and am going through the POMS documentation (which is indeed as unfriendly as warned). The Annual Statistical Supplement is also proving very helpful. I'm realizing this is more complex than I initially thought, especially with the family maximum calculations and the special considerations for my child. I'm particularly concerned about that SGA limit mentioned for DAC benefits - definitely need to model that scenario carefully. For those who might find this thread later, I'll try to share my spreadsheet once I've got it working properly with all these variables. Thanks again for all the help!

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That's great to hear! One last tip: the Social Security Administration actually has a detailed document called "Benefit Calculation Examples For Workers Retiring In 2025" that walks through several detailed examples. It changes yearly with the new bend points, and includes step-by-step calculations. Search for that exact phrase on their site and it should come up. Would be perfect for validating your spreadsheet calculations.

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As someone who's been down this rabbit hole before, I'd also recommend checking out the Social Security Administration's "Red Book" - specifically the 2025 version. It's their comprehensive guide to work incentives and contains detailed information about how earnings affect benefits, especially important for your special needs child scenario. One thing I learned the hard way: when building your spreadsheet, make sure to account for the fact that Social Security uses a very specific method for indexing earnings to current dollars using the Average Wage Index (AWI). The historical AWI factors are published annually and you'll need them for accurate AIME calculations. Also, if you're planning to include spousal benefit scenarios, don't forget about the Government Pension Offset (GPO) and Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) if either applies to your situation - these can significantly impact calculations but are often overlooked. The complexity is real, but once you get all the pieces together in a spreadsheet, it becomes incredibly powerful for scenario planning. Looking forward to seeing what you create!

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Will SSDI benefits at 62 equal my full retirement age Social Security amount with severe arthritis?

I'm struggling with severe arthritis and have already had two joint replacements (hip and shoulder). At 62, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to keep working. My rheumatologist thinks I should apply for disability, but I'm confused about the benefit amounts. If I get approved for SSDI at age 62, would I receive the same amount as if I waited until my Full Retirement Age (67)? I've read conflicting information - some places say SSDI gives you your full benefit regardless of age, others suggest there's still some kind of reduction. Basically, I want to know if SSDI would protect me from the early retirement penalty that regular Social Security retirement benefits have. My FRA benefit estimate is around $2,450/month, and I really can't afford to take a 30% cut by claiming early if I don't have to. Anyone been through this with arthritis or know how the SSDI benefit calculation works compared to early retirement? Thanks for any help!

Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to start gathering my medical records and look into disability attorneys in my area. I'm still nervous about the application process and potential wait time, but at least now I know that IF I get approved, I'll receive my full benefit amount without reduction. That's a huge relief. I'll also check out that Claimyr service when I need to call SSA - sounds much better than sitting on hold all day with my painful joints! I'll update this thread once I get started with the process in case it helps others with similar conditions.

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Best of luck with your application, Tony! Your approach sounds smart - gathering all medical records upfront and getting legal help early can really make a difference. One thing I'd add from my experience helping my mom with her SSDI claim: keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit to SSA. They sometimes lose paperwork and having your own copies saved us from having to re-request records from doctors. Also, if your rheumatologist hasn't already, ask them to specifically document in your records how your arthritis affects your ability to sit, stand, walk, lift, and grip - SSA focuses heavily on these functional limitations. The waiting is the hardest part, but you're going into this well-informed which puts you ahead of many applicants. Wishing you a smooth process and quick approval!

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Social Security benefit estimate accuracy at Full Retirement Age - can I trust the SSA statement for 2025?

I'm planning to claim Social Security at my Full Retirement Age in May 2025 (I'll be 67). I've been checking my statements online through my.ssa.gov, but I'm wondering how accurate those benefit estimates actually are? The monthly amount seems higher than I expected, and I'm nervous about budgeting based on this figure if it might change. Has anyone found the estimated FRA benefit amount to be pretty close to what they actually received when they started collecting? My work history has been pretty consistent for the last 15 years, if that matters. I just want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for a financial surprise next year!

Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I'm going to double-check my earnings record one more time to make sure everything's accurate. From what I'm gathering, as long as my record is correct, I should be able to trust the estimate within a small margin of error. I feel much better about my retirement planning now.

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Good luck with your retirement! Just make sure you apply a few months before May when you want benefits to start. The process can take a while and you want to avoid any gaps in income.

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As someone who's been through this process, I'd say the estimates are generally pretty reliable if your earnings record is accurate. I claimed at FRA about 6 months ago and my actual benefit was within $15 of what the statement showed. The key is definitely reviewing your earnings history carefully - I caught a missing year from when I changed jobs and got that corrected before filing. Since you're planning to work until April 2025, your estimate should be quite accurate. Just remember to apply about 3 months before you want payments to start to avoid any delays!

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