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As someone who recently went through this exact process, I can confirm that having all your documents ready is crucial. I'd also suggest calling ahead to ask specifically for an "AERO computation" or "benefit comparison calculation" as others mentioned - using the right terminology really helps. One thing I learned that might save you some time: if you have a my Social Security account online, you can actually get some preliminary benefit estimates there first. It won't show the full ex-spouse benefit comparison, but it'll give you your own benefit estimates at different claiming ages. This can help you prepare better questions for when you do speak with SSA. Also, regarding timing - if your ex is already receiving benefits (which is likely if he's older), that can actually make the process smoother since his benefit amount is already established in their system. The 2-year post-divorce rule you've already satisfied means you can claim independently of his filing status. Good luck with getting through to them! The phone system is definitely frustrating, but persistence pays off.
Thank you for mentioning the my Social Security account! I actually forgot I had set that up a few years ago. I'll log in and check what estimates are already available there before I call. That's a great point about my ex likely already receiving benefits - he's 3 years older than me, so he probably started claiming at least a year ago. That should make things easier when I talk to SSA. I really appreciate everyone's advice here - feeling much more prepared now!
Just wanted to add a few things that helped me when I went through this process last year. First, if you're planning to call SSA, try calling right when they open (8am local time) - you'll have much better luck getting through. Also, when you do get someone on the phone, don't hesitate to ask them to repeat back the key numbers to you to make sure you both heard correctly. One document tip that saved me a headache: make sure your divorce decree specifically states the marriage start and end dates. Some older divorce papers don't include the marriage date, and SSA needs both to verify the 10+ year requirement. If yours is missing that info, you might need to get an amended certified copy. Also, don't forget that you can potentially file a restricted application strategy if you were born before 1954 - this lets you claim spousal benefits while letting your own benefit grow with delayed retirement credits until age 70. Definitely worth asking about if you qualify! The whole process took me about 3 weeks from initial call to getting the final comparison paperwork, but it was absolutely worth it to see all my options laid out clearly.
This is incredibly helpful information! I was born in 1963, so unfortunately I don't qualify for the restricted application strategy, but it's good to know about. The tip about calling right at 8am is great - I'll definitely try that. Quick question about the divorce decree - mine does have both the marriage and divorce dates clearly stated, so I should be good there. But I'm curious about the 3-week timeline you mentioned. Did you get preliminary numbers during your first call, or did you have to wait the full 3 weeks to see any benefit comparisons? I'm hoping to at least get a rough idea of the numbers during the initial conversation so I can start planning. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps to hear from someone who's been through this recently!
Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! Just to summarize what I've learned: 1. My 2024 earnings won't affect my benefits starting in January 2025 2. Since I'm not working in 2025, I won't have any earnings test issues 3. I understand I'm taking a permanent reduction by claiming at 63.4 4. My 2024 earnings might actually increase my benefit slightly when SSA recalculates I think I'm good to proceed with filing in early December for my January start date. Really appreciate all the advice!
Congratulations on your upcoming retirement, Sean! You've got a solid plan and the community has given you excellent advice. One small tip from my own experience - when you file in December, make sure to ask SSA specifically about your first payment date. Sometimes there can be processing delays, especially during busy periods, and you want to make sure your January start date is locked in. Also, keep copies of all your filing paperwork just in case there are any questions later. Enjoy your retirement!
Great advice about keeping copies of everything! I learned this the hard way with other government benefits - documentation is so important when dealing with federal agencies. Sean, you might also want to screenshot or print out any confirmation numbers or reference numbers they give you when you file. Having that info handy can save you a lot of time if you need to call back for any reason.
whatever u decide DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!!! save emails texts everything about what they promised and how they said it would work. SSA can audit u years later and u need proof!!!
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through a similar situation last year. I was 68 and took on some consulting work with a bonus that was structured as an employer 401k contribution. The key things I learned: 1) Since you're past FRA, no worries about earnings limits affecting your SS benefits, 2) Make sure you get clarity on whether this is deferred compensation (counts as income for the year you work) or an employer contribution (different tax treatment), and 3) The timing of the deposit matters less than when the income is considered "earned" by IRS standards. I ended up having my tax preparer review everything beforehand and it saved me from any surprises. The documentation advice from others here is spot on - keep everything in writing!
As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I feel your pain! The SSA phone wait times are absolutely brutal. Here's what finally worked for me: I called my local SSA office directly (not the main 1-800 number) and was able to schedule a phone appointment for later that week. Many local offices offer scheduled phone consultations where they call YOU at the appointed time - no waiting on hold! You can find your local office number on the SSA website using your zip code. When I had my scheduled call, the representative was able to calculate my ex-spouse benefit estimate in about 10 minutes. Just make sure you have your ex's full name, date of birth, and SSN ready (which you mentioned you have from old tax returns). The estimate they gave me was spot-on when I actually filed. This approach saved me hours of frustration and I got accurate information from someone who had time to explain everything properly.
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I had no idea local SSA offices could schedule phone appointments - that sounds so much better than the endless hold times on the main number. I'm going to look up my local office right now and try to schedule one of these phone consultations. Having someone call me back at a set time would be perfect since I can plan around it instead of being stuck on hold indefinitely. Thanks for sharing what worked for you - this gives me hope that I can actually get this sorted out without losing my sanity!
I just discovered another option that might help - some SSA offices have self-service kiosks where you can pull certain benefit information without waiting in line. However, I'm not sure if they show ex-spouse benefit estimates specifically. You might also want to check if your local library has a SSA outreach program - mine has a volunteer AARP tax counselor who comes in twice a month and is really knowledgeable about Social Security benefits. She helped my neighbor figure out her widow's benefits without having to deal with SSA directly. It's worth asking your librarian if they have any similar programs. The volunteer couldn't give official estimates, but she walked through the calculation method so my neighbor knew roughly what to expect before making the SSA appointment.
That's a really interesting suggestion about the library programs! I hadn't thought about AARP volunteers helping with Social Security questions. Even if they can't give official estimates, having someone walk through the calculation method would be super helpful for understanding what to expect. I'm definitely going to call my local library to see if they have any similar outreach programs. Sometimes these community resources are hidden gems that can save you so much time and frustration compared to dealing with government agencies directly.
Oliver Weber
One other thing to be aware of: Your January 15th payment date suggests you were born between the 1st and 10th of the month. Social Security payment dates are based on your birth date: - Born 1st-10th: Payment on 2nd Wednesday (around the 8th-14th) - Born 11th-20th: Payment on 3rd Wednesday (around the 15th-21st) - Born 21st-31st: Payment on 4th Wednesday (around the 22nd-28th) This schedule is consistent month to month, so all your future payments should arrive on the second Wednesday of each month.
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Paolo Esposito
•Yes, I was born on the 5th, so that explains the second Wednesday schedule. Thank you for laying out all the payment dates so clearly!
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Emma Olsen
Just wanted to add - make sure to check your MySocialSecurity account online in December for your official COLA notice. It should show exactly how much your benefit will increase starting with the January 2025 benefit (paid in February). The notice will break down your old amount vs. new amount so there's no guessing. Also, if you haven't already, I'd recommend setting up direct deposit notifications with your bank so you know exactly when each payment hits your account!
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