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tell her to watch out for ELDER ABUSE too!!! financial threats against seniors is considered elder abuse in texas!!! if hes threatening her ss money she could report him!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share some additional resources that might help your sister. The National Domestic Violence Hotline (1-800-799-7233) has financial abuse specialists who can provide guidance on protecting assets during separation. They're available 24/7 and have experience with Social Security protection issues. Also, Texas has a Legal Aid hotline (1-833-457-5342) that provides free legal advice for low-income seniors. Since your sister is 68 and living solely on Social Security, she likely qualifies for their services. The threats sound like intimidation tactics, but having professional support can give her confidence and concrete steps to protect herself. Document everything he says about taking her money - text messages, emails, even notes about verbal threats with dates and times. This creates a paper trail if she needs legal protection later. Stay strong and keep advocating for her!
Just want to add one more thing - even though she can't get survivor benefits now, she should create a my Social Security account online if she hasn't already. It's free and will let her see her own work record and future benefit estimates. This can help with financial planning while she waits to become eligible for widow benefits. The site is ssa.gov/myaccount.
I'm so sorry for your sister-in-law's loss. As others have mentioned, the age 60 requirement is unfortunately firm for most situations. However, I wanted to add that she should also check if her husband's employer offers any bereavement benefits or extended health insurance coverage during this transition period. Additionally, if she decides to increase her work hours or find full-time employment during these years before she's eligible for survivor benefits, she'll be building up her own Social Security record. This could potentially make her own retirement benefits competitive with the survivor benefits when she reaches that decision point at 60. The financial planning during this gap period is crucial, but with proper planning and the strategies others have mentioned about coordinating benefits later, she can work toward financial stability despite this difficult situation.
This is really comprehensive advice, thank you. I hadn't thought about the employer bereavement benefits - I'll definitely have her check on that. You're absolutely right that building up her own work record now could really pay off later when she has to decide between her own benefits and survivor benefits. It's good to think of this waiting period as an opportunity to strengthen her financial position rather than just lost time.
To summarize the correct information for your situation: 1. Survivor benefits for divorced spouses DO allow for remarriage, but only if that remarriage occurs at age 60 or later. 2. Since you remarried at 57, unfortunately you don't qualify for survivor benefits on your ex-spouse's record. 3. However, if your current marriage were to end (through death or divorce), you would become eligible again for survivor benefits from your first husband. 4. It's still worth contacting SSA directly to verify all details, as there might be aspects of your situation that could affect eligibility (disability status, caring for dependent children, etc.). I hope this helps clarify the rules, even if it's not the outcome you were hoping for.
Thank you for this clear summary. I appreciate everyone's help in understanding these complicated rules. I'll definitely follow up with SSA directly just to be 100% certain, but at least now I have realistic expectations. It's a bit frustrating to miss the age cutoff by just a few years, but that's how it goes sometimes.
I'm sorry to hear about your loss, Omar. While the age 60 remarriage rule is unfortunately working against you in this case, I wanted to mention one additional thing that others haven't covered - make sure to keep all your documentation about your 10+ year marriage to your ex-husband. Even though you can't collect survivor benefits now due to remarrying before age 60, life circumstances can change. If your current marriage were to end for any reason, you would potentially become eligible again for those survivor benefits. It's worth keeping those records safe just in case. Also, when you do contact SSA directly, ask them to put a note in your file about your ex-husband's passing - it might save you time if you ever need to revisit this in the future.
After thinking about your situation more, I recalled another possibility: if your husband took reduced retirement benefits first and then later qualified for SSDI, his disability benefit would have included both his reduced retirement benefit PLUS an additional amount to bring it up to the full disability rate. When he reaches FRA, the additional amount stops, and he goes back to just his reduced retirement amount. This scenario would explain the significant drop. Did he by chance apply for early retirement before being approved for disability?
YES! That's exactly what happened! He took early retirement at 62 and then about 9 months later was approved for SSDI. So they increased his payment at that point. I had completely forgotten about that sequence of events. That explains why it's dropping back down now. Thank you so much for helping me figure this out!
Glad you figured it out! This is a perfect example of why it's important to understand how the original benefit was calculated. When someone takes early retirement and then qualifies for SSDI, they receive their reduced retirement benefit plus an additional amount to reach the full disability benefit level. At FRA, they return to their original reduced retirement amount plus any COLAs. For others reading this thread: this is why claiming strategy and timing matters so much with Social Security benefits. Taking early retirement can have long-term impacts even if you later qualify for disability.
Generally, if you think you might qualify for disability, it's better to apply for SSDI first rather than taking early retirement. However, each situation is unique based on your health, financial needs, and work history. The key takeaway is that these decisions can have long-term impacts on your benefit amounts.
@Lauren Zeb It s'definitely a complex situation! The general rule is that if you re'considering disability benefits, it s'usually better to apply for SSDI before taking early retirement. But like Anthony said, every case is different. If you re'dealing with a serious health condition and need income immediately, sometimes early retirement might be the only option while you wait for a disability decision which (can take months or even years .)The important thing is to understand the long-term implications before making the choice. You might want to consult with a Social Security disability attorney if you re'facing this decision - many offer free consultations.
StarSailor
Just to add one more thing - I would recommend applying for your benefits 3-4 months before you want them to start. That gives SSA plenty of time to process everything, including any potential spousal adjustment for your husband. With their current backlogs, the earlier you apply (within their allowed timeframe), the better!
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Sofia Morales
•That's excellent advice. I was planning to apply about 2 months before, but I'll make it 3-4 months instead. Better safe than sorry with the current backlogs. Thanks!
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QuantumQuester
Does anyone know if the firefighter pension affects this at all? My neighbor was saying something about GPO being different from WEP and that first responder pensions sometimes mess up spousal benefits completely
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Zainab Ismail
•Great question! Yes, GPO (Government Pension Offset) is different from WEP and specifically affects spousal and survivor benefits. If the OP's husband receives a pension from a government job where he didn't pay Social Security taxes (some firefighter positions are like this, others aren't), then the GPO could reduce his spousal benefits by two-thirds of his government pension amount. In some cases, this can eliminate the spousal benefit entirely. However, if his firefighter position was covered by Social Security (meaning SS taxes were withheld from his paychecks), then GPO wouldn't apply. OP - you might want to check whether your husband's firefighter position was "covered" or "non-covered" employment for Social Security purposes, as this makes a big difference.
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