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Madison Tipne

Social Security missing earnings from 1983 - need advice before FRA in May

I'm turning FRA (Full Retirement Age) on May 1 and just discovered my earnings record is missing $6,750 from September-December 1983 when I worked at a private high school. This is particularly important because 1983 falls within my top 35 years for benefit calculation. Ironically, this same school failed to report my earnings in 1991 too, which I managed to correct years ago! I've gathered documentation including my December pay stub showing YTD earnings, but my W2 is practically unreadable now. I've requested a 1983 transcript from the IRS. When I called SSA about this, they scheduled a phone appointment for April 7 and told me to WAIT to file until then, saying they'd help me file by phone and that it shouldn't cause any delay since my first payment would come mid-June anyway. The weird part? I just received a letter claiming I had discussed SSI eligibility with them (which I absolutely did NOT) and that I've been deemed ineligible. I'm wondering if there's some mix-up with my case. I'll be retiring from my teaching job on May 23, so my 2025 earnings will eventually replace a lower year. My questions: 1. Will my 2025 earnings automatically replace 1983 in October 2025 or not until 2026? 2. Should I just go ahead and file now rather than waiting for the April 7 appointment? 3. Roughly how much money am I losing if this missing 1983 income isn't corrected? (I know it's probably minimal) 4. If I wait until April 7 and they fix it, will I get all money owed even if payments start late? 5. If I file now, I have to check the box saying my earnings are correct. Can I still fix the 1983 issue afterwards?

Go ahead and file now!!!! I waited for an appointment like yours and ended up MISSING A MONTH of benefits because they count the filing date not the appointment date. Then I spent 6 MONTHS trying to get it fixed afterward. The SSA is a NIGHTMARE to deal with and they'll just tell you to file another form and wait another 30-60 days. My earnings record had problems too and it's still not fixed after nearly 2 years!! If I could do it over, I'd file the day I turned 66 and 4 months and fought the earnings battle separately.

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Madison Tipne

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Oh no, that's concerning! Did you lose that month permanently or did they eventually backdate it? I'm worried about checking that box saying my earnings record is correct when I know it's not.

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Malia Ponder

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To answer your questions: 1. Your 2025 earnings will be processed in 2026 after your W-2 is processed. SSA automatically recalculates benefits annually around October, so you'll likely see an adjustment in October 2026. 2. I recommend filing now. You can file and still pursue the earnings correction. The protective filing date is important for getting your benefits started on time. 3. A rough calculation: $6,750 from 1983 might increase your monthly benefit by $10-15 at most. Over 20 years, that's maybe $3,000-$3,600 total. 4. Yes, if you wait until April 7 and file then, any corrections to your record should result in proper payment, possibly with some retroactive adjustment if needed. 5. Yes, you can absolutely correct your earnings record after filing. Check the box, get your benefits started, and continue pursuing the correction.

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Kyle Wallace

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I had this exact situation last year with missing earnings from 1985. I filed on time and THEN pursued the earnings correction. The process took about 4 months, but when it was resolved, they sent me a lump sum adjustment for the difference. The amount was small (about $8 per month), but they did backdate it to my first month of benefits.

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Ryder Ross

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wait i'm confused... are u trying to get regular social security or SSI? they're totally different things. SSI is for people with no income/assets but regular SS retirement is based on work credits. maybe that's why u got that weird letter?

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Madison Tipne

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I'm definitely applying for regular Social Security retirement benefits, not SSI. That's why the letter confused me - I never discussed SSI with anyone! I'm wondering if they mixed up my records with someone else.

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Based on my experience helping clients with Social Security matters, here's my advice: 1. File your retirement application immediately to protect your filing date. This ensures you don't lose any benefits. 2. For the earnings record question, you can either: - Check that it's correct and file Form SSA-7008 separately to correct the 1983 earnings - Or note in the remarks section that you're in the process of correcting 1983 earnings 3. Still keep your April 7 appointment as they can help with the earnings correction process. 4. The missing 1983 earnings probably impact your benefit by less than $20/month, but it's still worth correcting. 5. For the strange SSI letter, that appears to be an administrative error. Bring it up during your April 7 call, but it shouldn't affect your retirement application. Regarding your 2025 earnings, they'll be automatically evaluated in 2026 after your W-2 is processed, and any benefit increase would be retroactive to January 2026.

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Madison Tipne

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Thank you for the detailed response! I think I'll go ahead and file online this weekend. Just to clarify - if I note in the remarks section about the 1983 correction, will that cause any delays in processing my application?

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No, noting the 1983 issue in the remarks section shouldn't delay your application. The SSA processes the application based on the information they currently have in their system. The earnings correction becomes a separate administrative process that happens alongside or after your benefit calculation. I recommend being very specific in your remarks - something like: "I've identified missing earnings of approximately $6,750 from September-December 1983 from [School Name]. I have documentation and am working with SSA to correct this record. I have an appointment scheduled on April 7, 2025 to address this issue.

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Henry Delgado

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had this same situation happened to me! mentioned my missing earnings in remarks and my application went through just fine! they processed it normally and then adjusted my payment 5 months later when the earnings were fixed. got a nice little backpay of the difference too!

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Olivia Kay

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Madison Tipne

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Thanks for the suggestion! I'm hopeful my appointment will go smoothly, but if I have trouble reaching them after that, I'll definitely check out that service. The hold times have been ridiculous every time I've called.

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Ryder Ross

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just wondering but did u ever file taxes for that 1983 job? cuz if u did the irs should have record of it even if the school messed up

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Madison Tipne

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Yes, I definitely filed taxes! That's why I've requested the transcript from the IRS - hoping it will show the income even though my own copy of the return is missing. The W2 is so faded after all these years I can barely make out anything on it.

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Malia Ponder

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One other thing to keep in mind - when you file online, there's a section where you can upload supporting documents. If you have that December 1983 pay stub showing your YTD earnings, I'd upload it along with a brief explanation. This creates a record of the issue from the beginning and might help expedite the correction process.

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That NEVER works!!! I uploaded ALL my documents and they still claimed they never received anything. The SSA website is a JOKE and they lose everything. PRINT EVERYTHING and take it in person or mail it certified!!

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Kyle Wallace

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I had a similar situation when I filed last year - found out my 1987 earnings were missing about $5,200. What worked for me was filing Form SSA-7008 (Request for Correction of Earnings Record) along with my retirement application. I attached my evidence (old pay stubs and tax transcript) and noted the issue in the remarks section of my retirement application. The cool part was that they processed my retirement claim right away based on the existing record, and then about 3 months later, they made the correction and adjusted my payments going forward. They also sent me a small retroactive payment for the difference between what I had been receiving and what I should have received with the corrected record. Don't wait until April 7 to file - you're right on the cusp of your FRA and you want that protective filing date in place.

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Madison Tipne

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This is really helpful - thank you! I think I'll go ahead and file this weekend and then follow up with the correction process. I want to make sure I don't miss out on any benefits while still getting the record fixed.

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Ryder Ross

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btw my mom had that weird SSI letter thing happen too! turned out they had her confused w/ someone with similar name and SS#. might wanna mention that on ur april call just to make sure they don't have ur records mixed up

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Madison Tipne

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That's concerning! I'll definitely bring it up during my appointment. I'd hate to have my records confused with someone else's - that could cause all kinds of problems.

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Ellie Perry

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I went through something very similar when I filed for benefits at my FRA. Here's what I learned from my experience: Definitely file your retirement application now rather than waiting until April 7th. The filing date is what matters for when your benefits start, not when you resolve earnings record issues. I made the mistake of delaying my filing to "clean up" my record first and it cost me benefits. For the earnings record issue, you can handle this in two ways: either check that your record is correct and file a separate SSA-7008 form to correct the 1983 earnings, or mention the discrepancy in the remarks section when you file online. I did the latter and it worked fine - my application processed normally while they worked on the correction separately. That SSI letter sounds like a case mix-up. Definitely mention it during your April 7th call, but don't let it delay your retirement filing. These administrative errors happen more often than they should. One tip: when you get your IRS transcript, that will be your strongest evidence for the missing earnings. Pay stubs are good, but the IRS record showing you filed taxes on that income is usually what gets SSA to make the correction quickly. The financial impact of $6,750 from 1983 is probably around $15-20 per month in today's benefits, but over your lifetime that adds up. Still worth pursuing, but not worth delaying your application over.

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Emma Morales

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As someone who just went through this process myself, I strongly recommend filing your retirement application immediately - don't wait until April 7th! The protective filing date is crucial and waiting could cost you benefits. Here's what I'd suggest based on my experience: 1. File online this weekend and in the remarks section, note something like: "Missing earnings from Sept-Dec 1983 (~$6,750) from [school name]. Have documentation and scheduled SSA appointment 4/7/25 to resolve." 2. Keep your April 7th appointment to work on the earnings correction - they can help you file Form SSA-7008 if needed. 3. That strange SSI letter is definitely an error - probably a case mix-up. Mention it during your call but don't let it delay your retirement filing. 4. Your 2025 teaching earnings will automatically be evaluated in 2026 after your W-2 is processed, with any benefit increase retroactive to January 2026. The missing 1983 earnings will probably only impact your monthly benefit by $15-25, but it's still worth correcting. The key is getting your retirement benefits started on time while pursuing the correction separately. I've seen too many people delay filing to "fix everything first" and lose money as a result. Once you get that IRS transcript, you'll have solid evidence to support your claim. The SSA typically accepts tax transcripts as proof of unreported earnings.

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This is exactly the advice I needed to hear! I was getting anxious about waiting versus filing, but you're absolutely right - I shouldn't delay my application just to get everything perfect first. I'm going to file online this weekend and include that note in the remarks section. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this process recently.

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