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Amara Okonkwo

Social Security retirement earnings limit confusion - bonus pay and Part B deductions

I'm totally confused about how Social Security handles income in retirement year and could use some advice! My wife (62) and I (65) are both retiring at the end of March 2025. Two issues I'm struggling with: 1) I just received a large bonus from 2024 work in my January 2025 paycheck, plus I'll get paid for unused vacation when I leave. This will definitely push me over the $23,000 annual earnings limit for 2025 even though I'm only working 3 months. My HR dept mentioned form SSA-131 but didn't seem sure when I should submit it. Should I have my employer fill it out now before I retire, or wait until SSA contacts me about exceeding the limit (which would probably be in 2026)? 2) We both got our benefit award letters showing what we'll receive, but I noticed our first checks have TWO months of Medicare Part B premiums deducted, not just one. Is this normal? Do they always take multiple months of Part B from the first check? I'm retiring before my Full Retirement Age so I know I need to be careful about the earnings test. Just trying to avoid any surprises or penalties!

For your first question - you should definitely have your employer complete Form SSA-131 (Employer Report of Special Wage Payments) before you retire. This form tells SSA which payments don't count toward the annual earnings limit because they were earned in a previous year. Bonuses for 2024 work and vacation pay you earned before retirement don't count against your 2025 earnings limit even if paid in 2025. Submit it proactively rather than waiting for SSA to contact you. This prevents them from incorrectly reducing your benefits when they get your 2025 earnings report from the IRS (which only shows when money was paid, not when it was earned). For your second question - yes, it's normal to have multiple months of Medicare premiums taken from your first check. SSA often needs to catch up on premiums that were due from your enrollment date.

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Amara Okonkwo

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Thank you! This is super helpful. So I should get that SSA-131 form completed right away then. Do you know if I need to submit it to my local office or can I mail it to some central processing center?

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idk about that form but when I retired 2 years ago they took a BUNCH of money from my first check for medicare!! I called and they said its normal. something about it being retroactive from when I signed up. I was so mad because nobody warned me and I was counting on that full amount!!! 😡

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Amara Okonkwo

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Ugh, that's exactly what I'm worried about! The letter shows the amount after "regular" deductions but I wasn't expecting double Medicare premiums. I was budgeting based on the regular monthly amount.

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Dylan Hughes

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my husband had same thing with the bonus pay. we didnt do anything and then 10 months later got a letter saying we owed back $4700 in benefits!!! had to setup a payment plan. definitely do that form!!

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NightOwl42

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Same situation here. They don't tell you this stuff until it's too late! And then they want the money back in one lump sum or they take HUGE amounts from your monthly checks. The whole system is ridiculous.

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As a retired SSA Claims Specialist, I can provide some guidance: 1) Form SSA-131: Have your employer complete this ASAP. This form identifies Special Wage Payments (SWP) - income received after retirement for work performed before retirement. Without this documentation, SSA will count your bonus and vacation payout toward the 2025 earnings limit. Submit it to your local field office immediately after receiving it from your employer. 2) Medicare Premiums: Yes, typically SSA will deduct 1-3 months of premiums from your first check depending on your enrollment timeline. This is standard procedure to collect any premiums that became due between when your Medicare coverage began and when your cash benefits start. Regarding the earnings limit, remember that in your first retirement year (2025), SSA can use the monthly earnings test instead of the annual one. This means after you stop working, you can receive full benefits regardless of your annual earnings. But you must document those special wage payments properly with the SSA-131.

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Amara Okonkwo

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I didn't realize there was a monthly earnings test in the first year. So if I understand correctly, even though my bonus + vacation payout + regular salary will put me over the annual limit, as long as I document the bonus and vacation payout as special wage payments, and I don't earn more than the monthly limit in any month after I retire, I should be good?

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Dmitry Ivanov

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I got caught in this exact same situation last year. My company paid out my bonus in January 2024 for work done in 2023, and I retired in February 2024. Social Security did reduce my benefits because they thought I made too much money in 2024! I had to spend HOURS on the phone trying to get through to someone who could help me. I wish I had known about that form beforehand. I finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual SSA agent in about 20 minutes instead of spending days trying to get through. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU It saved me so much frustration and I was able to get the situation fixed. Definitely get that form filled out NOW rather than dealing with the headache later!

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Amara Okonkwo

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Oh wow, that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid! I'll check out that service if I need to call SSA. I've tried calling a few times already about other retirement questions and could never get through.

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Ava Thompson

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dont even get me started on medicare deductions! they took 3 months from my first check and never told me ahead of time... i think they do it on purpose so u cant complain until after they already took the money!!

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Dylan Hughes

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same!! i was so confused when my first check was way lower than what my award letter said id get each month. you'd think they could at least WARN us in the letter!

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To follow up on your question about the monthly earnings test: Yes, you're understanding correctly. In your first year of retirement, SSA can apply the monthly test. How it works: For any month you earn under $1,920 (the 2025 monthly limit) AND don't perform substantial services in self-employment, you'll receive your full benefit regardless of your annual total. So if you retire March 31st: - January-March: You'd lose benefits for months you earned over $1,920 - April-December: You'd receive full benefits as long as those special wage payments (bonus/vacation) are properly documented as not counting for those months This is why the SSA-131 is crucial - it ensures those special payments aren't incorrectly counted as monthly earnings after you've stopped working. Regarding Medicare premiums: Your award letter should have explained the multiple deductions, but many don't notice this detail. The first check typically includes catch-up premiums for any months you were Medicare-eligible before benefits began.

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Amara Okonkwo

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation. I actually went back and re-read the award letter more carefully, and there IS a small paragraph mentioning the Medicare premium catch-up, but it's buried in the text. I'll get the SSA-131 form taken care of right away. Really appreciate everyone's help!

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NightOwl42

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The whole earnings limit thing is just another way the government punishes people who want to work. Why should they penalize you for getting a bonus you EARNED? The system is completely broken. And don't get me started on how they handle Medicare premiums...

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The earnings limit isn't actually a penalty - it's a deferral. Any benefits withheld due to excess earnings before FRA are added back into your monthly payment when you reach your Full Retirement Age, resulting in a permanent increase. Many people don't realize this aspect of the earnings test.

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As someone who just went through this process last year, I can definitely relate to your confusion! The earnings limit rules are really tricky, especially in your first retirement year. One thing I learned the hard way is that you should also keep detailed records of WHEN you actually performed the work that earned you the bonus and vacation pay. The SSA-131 form is great, but having your own documentation (like emails showing the bonus was for 2024 performance, or records of when you accrued the vacation days) can be really helpful if there are any questions later. Also, regarding the Medicare premiums - when I called about the multiple deductions on my first check, the representative told me that the exact number of months they deduct depends on when your Medicare Part B coverage actually started versus when your Social Security benefits begin. Sometimes there's a gap that creates the catch-up situation. The good news is that after that first check, everything should normalize to the regular monthly amounts shown in your award letter. Just budget for that first check to be significantly lower than expected!

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Ethan Scott

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This is really great advice, especially about keeping your own documentation! I hadn't thought about saving emails or records showing when the work was actually performed. That seems like it could save a lot of headaches if SSA has questions later. I'm definitely going to gather all that paperwork before I submit the SSA-131 form. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who just went through this exact situation!

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Klaus Schmidt

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Just wanted to add something that might help with timing - when you submit that SSA-131 form, make sure to keep a copy for your records and consider sending it via certified mail or delivering it in person to get a receipt. I've heard stories of forms getting "lost" in the system. Also, if you're planning to do any part-time work or consulting after you retire, be really careful about the monthly earnings test. Even small amounts can add up quickly, and it's easy to accidentally go over that $1,920 monthly limit without realizing it. One more tip: when you do start receiving your benefits, keep a close eye on your first few payments. Sometimes there can be delays in processing the SSA-131, so they might initially withhold benefits and then adjust later. If that happens, don't panic - just follow up with documentation showing you submitted the form properly. Good luck with your retirement! It sounds like you're being really proactive about avoiding these common pitfalls.

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Yuki Watanabe

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Great point about keeping copies and using certified mail! I never would have thought about forms getting lost, but that makes total sense given how busy SSA offices probably are. I'm definitely going to hand-deliver mine to the local office and get a receipt. The tip about watching those first few payments is really valuable too - I'll make sure to monitor everything closely and not assume it's all been processed correctly right away. It's amazing how many little details there are to consider with this whole process. Thank you for taking the time to share these practical tips!

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QuantumQuasar

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I went through a very similar situation when I retired early at 63 last year. The earnings limit confusion is real! A few additional thoughts that might help: 1) For the SSA-131 form - I'd recommend calling your HR department to confirm they're familiar with this form. Some smaller companies haven't dealt with it before and might need guidance. The form needs to clearly distinguish between wages for work performed before vs. after your retirement date. 2) Regarding Medicare premiums - what helped me was calling Medicare directly (not SSA) at 1-800-MEDICARE to understand exactly which months they were collecting for. Sometimes the timing of when you enrolled in Part B versus when your Social Security benefits start creates these catch-up situations. 3) One thing I wish I'd known: if you're planning any freelance or consulting work after retiring, even small amounts count toward that monthly limit. I almost got caught because I did some consulting work in month 4 of retirement and didn't realize those payments would count. The first few months of retirement benefits can definitely be bumpy with all these adjustments, but it does smooth out once everything is properly documented and processed. You're smart to be asking these questions upfront rather than dealing with overpayments later!

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Javier Gomez

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This is such valuable advice! I hadn't thought about calling Medicare directly - that's a great idea to get clarity on exactly which months they're collecting for. And the point about HR departments not being familiar with the SSA-131 form is really important. I'm going to reach out to them this week to make sure they know how to complete it properly. The consulting work warning is particularly helpful since my wife and I were actually considering doing some part-time consulting after we retire. I had no idea that even small amounts would count toward the monthly limit. It sounds like we need to be really careful about timing any consulting income to make sure we stay under that $1,920 threshold each month. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so reassuring to hear from people who have successfully navigated this process!

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Ravi Malhotra

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One additional resource that might be helpful - the SSA website has a detailed publication called "How Work Affects Your Benefits" (Publication No. 05-10069) that explains the earnings test rules and special wage payments in more detail. It's a bit dry to read, but it covers scenarios exactly like yours. Also, regarding the Medicare premium deductions - I'd suggest looking at your Medicare Summary Notice (MSN) when you get it. This will show you exactly which months of premiums were collected and help you verify that the deductions were correct. Sometimes there can be errors, and it's easier to catch them early. One last tip: consider setting up a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. This will let you monitor your benefit payments and see any adjustments in real-time rather than waiting for paper statements. It's been invaluable for tracking everything during my first year of retirement. The learning curve is steep, but you're asking all the right questions. The fact that you're being proactive about the SSA-131 form will save you a lot of headaches down the road!

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Payton Black

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Thank you for mentioning that SSA publication! I just looked it up and you're absolutely right - it's dry reading but really comprehensive. I'm printing it out to reference while I'm going through this process. The my Social Security account tip is great too - I actually do have one set up but hadn't thought about using it to monitor the benefit payments in real-time. That will definitely give me peace of mind to be able to track any adjustments as they happen. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and practical tips. This community has been incredibly helpful in preparing me for what could have been some nasty surprises!

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