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Chloe Martin

Can I collect ex-spouse Social Security with CSRS pension and only 36 work credits?

I retired under the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) and currently receive my pension. I only worked part-time jobs that paid into Social Security, so I only have 36 quarters of coverage (need 40 for full benefits). My ex-husband, who I was married to for 16 years, will qualify for full Social Security benefits. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth working those additional 4 quarters to get to 40. Two main questions: 1. If I don't work the extra 4 quarters, can I still collect ex-spouse benefits based on his record? 2. If I do work those 4 quarters, would my CSRS pension reduce any Social Security benefits so much through WEP/GPO that it wouldn't be worth the effort? I'm really confused about how these systems interact. Anyone navigate this CSRS/Social Security/ex-spouse benefits maze before?

Oh i went through something similar! You should know that the Government Pension Offset (GPO) will probably wipe out most or all of your ex-spouse benefits. They typically reduce your SS spousal/survivor benefit by 2/3 of your CSRS pension amount. My friend got like $27 a month after GPO lol. Not worth the trouble IMO.

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Chloe Martin

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Only $27?? That's so discouraging. Do you know if this applies even if I don't have my own 40 quarters? I thought maybe the rules might be different in my situation.

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You're dealing with several complex issues here. To answer your specific questions: 1. For ex-spouse benefits, you do NOT need 40 quarters of coverage. You can collect on your ex's record if you were married 10+ years (which you were at 16 years) and you're currently unmarried. 2. However, the Government Pension Offset (GPO) will reduce any spousal or survivor benefits by 2/3 of your CSRS pension amount. This often eliminates the spousal benefit entirely for CSRS retirees. 3. For your own Social Security benefits (if you worked those additional 4 quarters), the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) would reduce your own benefit. So while working those 4 quarters would qualify you for your own (reduced) benefit, it likely wouldn't change your eligibility for ex-spouse benefits, which you already qualify for but might be reduced to zero by GPO.

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Exactly right. Since you already have 36 quarters, you might want to work just 4 more quarters to qualify for Medicare at 65 (if you don't already have it). But GPO will likely eliminate any ex-spouse benefit regardless of whether you have your own 40 quarters or not. You can use the WEP/GPO calculators on the SSA website to see the exact impact based on your pension amount and potential SS benefit: https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/gpo-calc.html

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Zara Khan

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THESE GPO RULES ARE SO UNFAIR!!! I worked 27 years for the government and paid into CSRS, then worked ANOTHER 15 years in the private sector paying into SS. After all that I basically get NOTHING from Social Security!!! The system is totally RIGGED against government workers!!!! 😠😠😠

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I totally get your frustration! My mom was in a similar situation - worked for the post office under CSRS for 30 years, then another job for 12 years. She was shocked when she found out her Social Security would be reduced so dramatically. The SSA rep actually told her she'd have been better off financially if she HADN'T worked those extra years. Doesn't seem right after paying into both systems.

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have u tried calling social securty? they can look at ur specific #s and tell u exactly what ud get

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Chloe Martin

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I've tried calling SSA several times but can never get through. Either I'm on hold for hours or it disconnects me. It's been incredibly frustrating trying to get specific answers about my situation.

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Nia Williams

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Chloe Martin

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Thank you for the recommendation! I'll definitely check this out. It would be such a relief to talk to an actual person who can look at my specific situation instead of trying to figure it all out myself.

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Nia Williams

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A few more things to consider in your situation: 1. Even if your Social Security benefit would be minimal or zero after GPO, having 40 quarters gives you Medicare eligibility at 65. 2. Some CSRS employees find that working longer in SS-covered employment (well beyond the minimum 40 quarters) can help offset some WEP reductions if they're trying to qualify for their own benefit. 3. Since you mentioned ex-spouse benefits specifically - if your ex passes away, survivor benefits have the same GPO reduction (2/3 of your CSRS pension), but survivor benefits are typically higher than spousal benefits, so you might receive something in that scenario. I'd recommend getting a detailed benefits calculation from SSA before making your decision about working those additional quarters.

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Chloe Martin

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Thank you for this detailed response. I hadn't even thought about the Medicare aspect! That alone might make it worth working those 4 quarters. I'll definitely look into getting a precise calculation from SSA to see exactly where I stand.

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My situation was kinda similar. I had CSRS and only 32 quarters when I retired. I worked part-time at my grandson's day care center for 2 years to get my 40 quarters. For me it was worth it for Medicare alone, even though my SS benefit is tiny after WEP reductions. Also gave me something to do during retirement! Definitely call SSA and have them calculate your specific numbers before deciding, but don't be surprised if your ex-spouse benefit disappears completely under GPO.

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Chloe Martin

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That's really helpful to hear your experience. I might look into part-time work options that I'd enjoy. Did you have to earn a certain amount in those quarters for them to count? Or just any covered employment?

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Each quarter in 2025 requires about $1,740 in earnings to count (changes yearly). So just over $7,000 total for all 4 quarters. Doesn't matter how long it takes you to earn that - could be one job for a few months or spread out longer. Good luck!

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my neighbor got caught in this same situation and she said the whole thing was a waste of time. spent all that effort getting her quarters and still got basically nothing from SS. just a heads up

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Zara Khan

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The ONLY reason to get those 4 quarters is MEDICARE!!! If you don't have 40 quarters you'll pay WAY more for Medicare Part A, which is normally free if you have 40 quarters. That alone is worth working a little bit more!!!

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This is accurate. Without 40 quarters in 2025, Medicare Part A would cost up to $505 monthly. With 40+ quarters, Part A is premium-free. For someone on a fixed retirement income, this difference of approximately $6,060 annually is significant.

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I'm in a very similar situation and have been researching this extensively. Here's what I've learned that might help: The Medicare angle is HUGE - without 40 quarters, you'll pay around $505/month for Part A (over $6,000/year). That alone makes getting those 4 quarters worth it financially. For 2025, you need $1,740 in covered earnings per quarter, so about $7,000 total. You could potentially earn this in just a few months of part-time work. Regarding your ex-spouse benefits - you're already eligible since you were married 16 years, but GPO will likely reduce them significantly. However, having your own 40 quarters gives you options and Medicare eligibility regardless. I'd suggest: 1) Use the SSA calculators to estimate your exact GPO impact, 2) Consider the Medicare savings as the primary benefit, not Social Security payments, 3) Maybe look into seasonal work or consulting that you'd actually enjoy. The system is definitely confusing, but the Medicare piece makes it a clearer decision in my opinion.

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm new to navigating all these government benefit programs and the Medicare angle really puts things in perspective. Paying over $6,000 annually for Part A versus working part-time for a few months to earn those 4 quarters seems like a no-brainer when you frame it that way. I hadn't considered seasonal work or consulting - that's a great suggestion since I could potentially find something I'd actually enjoy rather than just viewing it as a chore to get the quarters. Thanks for laying out the decision-making framework so clearly!

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As someone who went through a similar CSRS/Social Security situation, I'd strongly recommend focusing on the Medicare benefits rather than the Social Security payments. The $6,000+ annual savings on Medicare Part A premiums alone makes those 4 quarters worthwhile. I ended up taking a part-time job at a local library for about 6 months - earned just over the $7,000 needed and actually enjoyed the work. My Social Security benefit is minimal due to WEP, and GPO eliminated most of my spousal benefits, but having Medicare Part A premium-free has saved me thousands. One tip: You can create a my Social Security account online to see your current earnings record and get benefit estimates. This might give you a clearer picture before you decide whether to pursue those additional quarters.

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